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Bit of an odd one, but Airfix is a company near and dear to me, spent many a hour playing with their 1:76 soldiers and those battle sets.



You can read all about their upcoming 2012 releases here: http://www.airfix.com/2012/

Here are some of their highlights from their upcoming 1:48 Afghanistan range:

That's funny. I bought my first Airfix kit in years yesterday. Mum got me Hobbycraft vouchers for Christmas and as they didn't have any GW stuff I wanted, I bought a Junkers Ju88 instead.

I've discussed this in another thread, but have to say that compared to GW kits, the casting quality was awful. Having to do all sorts of gap filling work and I don't how what I'm going to do where the clear cockpit parts meet the fuselage (or rather don't meet the fuselage). I suppose they are a lot cheaper than GW though...

I agree on that sentiment, for me it was at first GW's kits, but after working with Tamiya again I can never look at kits from other companies in a same light again. I do hope that these newly tooled Afghanistan kits are of any good, I'd hate a repeat of the olden days with their 1:76 kits being so horrible from time to time.

I would also add that I'm still enjoying putting it together if only because of nostalgia

I agree, I've been shopping around in search of an Airfix kit myself, if only to relive those days twenty years ago.

Those land rovers look extra sexy and would be great for civilian 40k vehicles.

I'm not familiar with the jackel and coyote, do they really have no outer shell or is that a cut away view to show the interior detail?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Those land rovers look extra sexy and would be great for civilian 40k vehicles.

I'm not familiar with the jackel and coyote, do they really have no outer shell or is that a cut away view to show the interior detail?

That is how they should look.

Being Airfix though they will probably look like they are fully enclosed what with poor defined edges and lots of flash. Being part of Hornby lets also hope they don't get delayed or lost altogether.

It's nice to see a well thought out range from Airfix.

I wish the vehicles were 1/35 but there you are. Accurate Armour did some kits in 1/35 but they cost about £80 and are resin.

A lot of the older Airfix kits were originally designed and the moulds made in the 60s and 20s, so it's not surprising the quality is poor.

The Jackal and Coyote are open frame vehicles to which various kits of armour can be fitted depending on the mission.



The concept is that mobility and ability to see threats are more important than the chance of heavy armour to defeat roadside bombs, etc.

Kilkrazy wrote:
The Jackal and Coyote are open frame vehicles to which various kits of armour can be fitted depending on the mission.



The concept is that mobility and ability to see threats are more important than the chance of heavy armour to defeat roadside bombs, etc.

Interesting, very interesting. Totally the opposite of our mentality that everything should be triple armored.

Neat looking vehicle too.

I may have to pick up some kits. Course that would mean painting the tamiya kits I got 3 years ago...

Will James May be building life-size versions of any of these?

cool stuff

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Interesting, very interesting. Totally the opposite of our mentality that everything should be triple armored.

The brits I met in '05 had this philosophy with body armor too- much smaller ballistic plates in their vests for lighter, faster movement. I think that's changed, but I'm not sure. Made some sense at the time, though!

Another year and still no HMS Dreadnought, shame.

Having said that I'd probably be happy if they brought their existing naval kits up to the same standards as modern Tamiya ones, and added the option to build in full hull or waterline as you get with the Italeri kits.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:
The Jackal and Coyote are open frame vehicles to which various kits of armour can be fitted depending on the mission.

http://defense-update.com/images_large2/jackal2.jpg

The concept is that mobility and ability to see threats are more important than the chance of heavy armour to defeat roadside bombs, etc.

Interesting, very interesting. Totally the opposite of our mentality that everything should be triple armored.

Neat looking vehicle too.

I may have to pick up some kits. Course that would mean painting the tamiya kits I got 3 years ago...

The US design concept has also changed due to experience in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Vehicles like the Bradley and Stryker are as heavy as early WW2 tanks. They have a tendency to cave into underground pipes and culverts, etc due to weight. They lack the armour needed to fully withstand the blast of typical IED mines even so.

The MRAP program was intended to produce lighter vehicles which make IEDs more survivable by deflecting blast and shrapnel while not totally resisting the impact.

The vehicle could be wrecked but it is relatively cheap to replace.

@ red_Zeke - Nah the MoD probably just would shell out for expensive things like "armour" or "guns that work in desert environments"

Loving the look of the Jackal and Coyote kits. :Landrovers are alway cool especially when suitable over armed!

I would be tempted if A) the infantry patrol models come in a hard plastic rather that the soft floppy type that I associate with Airfix infantry and B) they also make some 1/48 Jundies to shoot at!

Also I found out that there is an Airfix magazine a couple of days ago when perusing the local supermarket.

mite get a jackel or coyote and see how how they go with elysians .

Red_Zeke wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Interesting, very interesting. Totally the opposite of our mentality that everything should be triple armored.

The brits I met in '05 had this philosophy with body armor too- much smaller ballistic plates in their vests for lighter, faster movement. I think that's changed, but I'm not sure. Made some sense at the time, though!

A British vet once explained to me that the Americans were required to always wear their helmets while he could take his off to interact with the population. He really felt that small step made him more human, less of an occupying soldier and paid dividends in his units relationship with the community.

Just a 3rd hand story but it stuck with me.

Hello Tauros Assault

and Tauros Venator

The jackal and coyote vehicles look very lootable for orks. I didn't know such real-world vehicles even existed.

I should prolly point out that the Afghanistan range has been on the site since early last year as WIP.

notprop wrote:I would be tempted if A) the infantry patrol models come in a hard plastic rather that the soft floppy type that I associate with Airfix infantry and B) they also make some 1/48 Jundies to shoot at!

Also I found out that there is an Airfix magazine a couple of days ago when perusing the local supermarket.

The British infantry is a hard plastic multi-pose kit with plenty of equipment and kit for all eight models.

Kilkrazy wrote:It's nice to see a well thought out range from Airfix.

I wish the vehicles were 1/35 but there you are. Accurate Armour did some kits in 1/35 but they cost about £80 and are resin.

Personally I'm rather glad that these kits are 1:48, which is more in line with 28mm true-scale, which is hard enough as it is to find proper military vehicle kits for these days.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:A British vet once explained to me that the Americans were required to always wear their helmets while he could take his off to interact with the population. He really felt that small step made him more human, less of an occupying soldier and paid dividends in his units relationship with the community.

Just a 3rd hand story but it stuck with me.

Truth, I read an interview where a journalist was lifting along with a British patrol and they forewent helmets in favour of looking less threatening. They still carried arms and had their helmets in reach, but it helped put the people more at ease.

1:48 makes the kits nice for modern historical wargames in 28mm true scale, etc.

GW models of course are larger "heroic" scale.

I stepped away from the heroic stuff for the time being, instead going with Hasslefree, Reaper and Crooked Dice, which offer a nice semi-consistent line of models for my current project. Those Land Rovers will be most welcome indeed, I just hope they're a bit sturdy unlike that 1:48 Tamiya Humvee. Erm, I mean, "U.S. Modern 4x4 Utility Vehicle".

Kilkrazy wrote:It's nice to see a well thought out range from Airfix.

I wish the vehicles were 1/35 but there you are. Accurate Armour did some kits in 1/35 but they cost about £80 and are resin.

A lot of the older Airfix kits were originally designed and the moulds made in the 60s and 20s, so it's not surprising the quality is poor.

The Jackal and Coyote are open frame vehicles to which various kits of armour can be fitted depending on the mission.



The concept is that mobility and ability to see threats are more important than the chance of heavy armour to defeat roadside bombs, etc.

That thing needs to have some orks in it...

They already do, you've not meet many British Squadies have you?

notprop wrote:They already do, you've not meet many British Squadies have you?

So they all act like Mattyrm?

No, some are valued members of society. Think of Matty as Squadies+1 with added booze.

notprop wrote:No, some are valued members of society. Think of Matty as Squadies+1 with added booze.

Got it.

Anyways, back on-topic, I see some potential in them as orky conversions: open topped and lots of flat surfaces to add extra armour plates, etc. Add some orky wheels, etc.

Just looked at the Website and the assault group and patrol boxsets look tempting. Might get one if they reach the shelves as a tester.

Kilkrazy wrote:It's nice to see a well thought out range from Airfix.

I wish the vehicles were 1/35 but there you are. Accurate Armour did some kits in 1/35 but they cost about £80 and are resin.

A lot of the older Airfix kits were originally designed and the moulds made in the 60s and 20s, so it's not surprising the quality is poor.

The Jackal and Coyote are open frame vehicles to which various kits of armour can be fitted depending on the mission.



The concept is that mobility and ability to see threats are more important than the chance of heavy armour to defeat roadside bombs, etc.

That looks real orky.

Edit: Damn, beaten to it.

BrookM wrote:I stepped away from the heroic stuff for the time being, instead going with Hasslefree, Reaper and Crooked Dice, which offer a nice semi-consistent line of models for my current project. Those Land Rovers will be most welcome indeed, I just hope they're a bit sturdy unlike that 1:48 Tamiya Humvee. Erm, I mean, "U.S. Modern 4x4 Utility Vehicle".

Well, any plastic kit for display modelling will have thinner parts than the GW kits which are built for fairly rough handling.

That said, wargamers have been using plastic models successfully for decades.

The main worry with the vehicles is the framework which is probably only 1mm thick in scale.