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Whether it be because of background, looks, personalities. Can include before or after heresy, doesn't matter!

Just tell me who and why

IMO it's a tie between sanguinius and pre heresy Fulgrim. They're both epic in every way!

Dorn.

Lorgar.

EDIT: And before the Lorgar hating begins, read Aurelian. Just read it.

Horus, dude ate Sanguinius for breakfast.

Castiel wrote:Lorgar.

EDIT: And before the Lorgar hating begins, read Aurelian. Just read it.

If it wasn't $90+ I definitely would
Worth the buy?

Castiel wrote:Lorgar.

EDIT: And before the Lorgar hating begins, read Aurelian. Just read it.

Um... only 3000 people can

Guilliman.

Coolyo294 wrote:Guilliman.

Love the fact you have the iron warriors sign as your profile pic and you pic Girlyman

But back on topic Horus or Angron the two greatest CC primarchs (let the outrage begin)

tyro_neophyte wrote:Horus, dude ate Sanguinius for breakfast.

Sanguinius still had the guts to stand up to him though, well knowing he had the backup power of all 4 chaos gods!

Night Haunter
BTW is there any books (Omnibus, Heresy novels) that talk about him.

9 Primarchs knew no better than to throw a tantrum, gak on the creation of their maker and sucumb to dark powers for petty, selfish wants.

8 Primarchs knew no better than to preserve the status-quo in the face of crisis, whine endlessely about the smallest of changes and sit around sulking and glooming as past days became past.

1 Primarch actually had the will, drive and spirit to move ahead and forge something new from the ruins of old. Only one Primarch actually with an inkling of "leadership". Only one who was more than a lapdog, tame or turned rabid. Only one who carried on the Emperors vision, not in fetishising his words, but their spirit in a better realm of man.

Roboute Guilliman. The only one of the bunch that ever lived up to the title of "Primarch"

ravenousork25 wrote:Night Haunter
BTW is there any books (Omnibus, Heresy novels) that talk about him.

The Night Lord books by ADB have some nice bits about Kurze in them.

Sanguinius and Guliman.

Curze.

Zweischneid wrote:9 Primarchs knew no better than to throw a tantrum, gak on the creation of their maker and sucumb to dark powers for petty, selfish wants.

8 Primarchs knew no better than to preserve the status-quo in the face of crisis, whine endlessely about the smallest of changes and sit around sulking and glooming as past days became past.

1 Primarch actually had the will, drive and spirit to move ahead and forge something new from the ruins of old. Only one Primarch actually with an inkling of "leadership". Only one who was more than a lapdog, tame or turned rabid. Only one who carried on the Emperors vision, not in fetishising his words, but their spirit in a better realm of man.

Roboute Guilliman. The only one of the bunch that ever lived up to the title of "Primarch"

There is so much wrong with that post.

Magnus was driven to Chaos by Russ. He didn't want to turn, he was forced to, to protect his Legion.

Except that that should be five. Sanguinius and Manus were slightly dead at this point. And the Lion was sleeping in the Rock.

Also, Sanguinius earned the title every bit as much, if not more than, Gulliman did. He knew he was going to die facing a Chaosed up Horus, but he went willingly, knowing his sacrifice would ultimately lead to the Emperor's victory. I think he lived up to the title Primarch pretty well.

Lobukia wrote:

Castiel wrote:Lorgar.

EDIT: And before the Lorgar hating begins, read Aurelian. Just read it.

Um... only 3000 people can

True! I posted that because I'm sick of all the flak I get for saying that, almost always from people who don't know or understand the whole deal. I'm fed up being told "Lorgar was the weakest primarch". Maybe in a straight up fight, but he was strong in other ways.

Casteil wrote:True! I posted that because I'm sick of all the flak I get for saying that, almost always from people who don't know or understand the whole deal. I'm fed up being told "Lorgar was the weakest primarch". Maybe in a straight up fight, but he was strong in other ways.

He had to be. Who can sport a dress and still be taken seriously these days?

Perturabo or Mortarion.

Sanguinus/Dorn

Reason I have BA and IF armies;

Lion El'Jonson why because he was first he could've beaten any of them except Horus

KplKeegan wrote:

Casteil wrote:True! I posted that because I'm sick of all the flak I get for saying that, almost always from people who don't know or understand the whole deal. I'm fed up being told "Lorgar was the weakest primarch". Maybe in a straight up fight, but he was strong in other ways.

He had to be. Who can sport a dress and still be taken seriously these days?

1) Spell my name right.

2) Go look for a rise elsewhere.

Perturabo, all the way. Can't wait for when BL do a Horus Heresy novel focussing on Perts and his boys. Just hope ADB gets' it, and therefore the book'll do him justice

Zweischneid wrote:9 Primarchs knew no better than to throw a tantrum, gak on the creation of their maker and sucumb to dark powers for petty, selfish wants.

8 Primarchs knew no better than to preserve the status-quo in the face of crisis, whine endlessely about the smallest of changes and sit around sulking and glooming as past days became past.

1 Primarch actually had the will, drive and spirit to move ahead and forge something new from the ruins of old. Only one Primarch actually with an inkling of "leadership". Only one who was more than a lapdog, tame or turned rabid. Only one who carried on the Emperors vision, not in fetishising his words, but their spirit in a better realm of man.

Roboute Guilliman. The only one of the bunch that ever lived up to the title of "Primarch"

Although I initially said Dorn, I now totally agree with this sentiment.

Zweischneid wrote:9 Primarchs knew no better than to throw a tantrum, gak on the creation of their maker and sucumb to dark powers for petty, selfish wants.

8 Primarchs knew no better than to preserve the status-quo in the face of crisis, whine endlessely about the smallest of changes and sit around sulking and glooming as past days became past.

1 Primarch actually had the will, drive and spirit to move ahead and forge something new from the ruins of old. Only one Primarch actually with an inkling of "leadership". Only one who was more than a lapdog, tame or turned rabid. Only one who carried on the Emperors vision, not in fetishising his words, but their spirit in a better realm of man.

Roboute Guilliman. The only one of the bunch that ever lived up to the title of "Primarch"

Yes, he had the remarkable foresight to have a relatively unmangled legion at his command with which to threaten to destroy any of his brothers who thought the codex or the reorganization of the Imperium were bad ideas. I mean look at that slacker Manus, he didn't do a bloody thing after Isstvan.

Not to mention that his reforms and forward thinking led to an Empire of Man that manages to incorporate the worst elements mankind's history into a single entity.

ravenousork25 wrote:Night Haunter
BTW is there any books (Omnibus, Heresy novels) that talk about him.

He is BATMAN of the Primarchs.

Along with him I really like Corax, Sanguinius, Horus pre–fall and Lorgar — the way he started off weak and turned totally kickarse later.

Zweischneid wrote:9 Primarchs knew no better than to throw a tantrum, gak on the creation of their maker and sucumb to dark powers for petty, selfish wants.

8 Primarchs knew no better than to preserve the status-quo in the face of crisis, whine endlessely about the smallest of changes and sit around sulking and glooming as past days became past.

1 Primarch actually had the will, drive and spirit to move ahead and forge something new from the ruins of old. Only one Primarch actually with an inkling of "leadership". Only one who was more than a lapdog, tame or turned rabid. Only one who carried on the Emperors vision, not in fetishising his words, but their spirit in a better realm of man.

Roboute Guilliman. The only one of the bunch that ever lived up to the title of "Primarch"

+1

...and the stagnation has so much to do with the Lords of Terra and not Guilliman, who was still on the leading from the front till the end.

Alpharius(or Omegon) I love the over the top tactics they choose to use

Word Bearers have always been my favourite Legion, but Kurze is my favourite Primarch. Lorgar follows closely second.

daBIGboss wrote:

tyro_neophyte wrote:Horus, dude ate Sanguinius for breakfast.

Sanguinius still had the guts to stand up to him though, well knowing he had the backup power of all 4 chaos gods!

Not to mention fighting in the palace before fighting a fresh Horus.

Magnus and Sanguinius. The Crimson King was supposed to lead the exploration and conquest of the Webway and was probably meant to stand beside the Emperor when the time came to accelerate and smooth Mankind's evolution into the new psychic masters of the galaxy. The Angel was the heir to the Imperium of Man; all the Primarchs looked up to him (even the traitors before they became traitors). It's pretty much implied that had he not insisted on accompanying the Emperor into the Vengeful Spirit, he would have been named successor. All the surviving loyalists would have accepted him, unlike Guilliman, who while having my respect, had his authority questioned by the other loyal Primarchs.