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Even though in the beginning the Emperor outlawed the use of Psychic Potential, I think we all agree that having a Psyker can be Devastating to the enemy.

Some Librarians though are more in tune with their own potential and stand out among their peers.

No doubt all of the UM and BA followers will be all over this, but I think Stormcaller

Hard to say. Im going with Njal purely because I like the SW.

"The sheer accuracy of his predictions about the movement and intents of the Great Devourer have led many to believe that Tigurius has managed to penetrate the Hive Mind itself, something only a psyker as powerful as the Emperor could withstand without going insane. If this is true, and the Chief Librarian of the Ultramarines really has tapped into the Hive Mind, it would make him the most powerful active psyker in the Imperium, second only to the Immortal God Emperor himself."

Because the gratest of them all - are the Ultramarines.

Ahriman.

He IS the Chief Librarian of the Thousand Sons. Just because he's now considered a traitor, has been kicked out by his primarch, and is now bouncing around the universe raiding museums and such doesn't mean he's not still a Librarian.

Brother Coa wrote:"The sheer accuracy of his predictions about the movement and intents of the Great Devourer have led many to believe that Tigurius has managed to penetrate the Hive Mind itself, something only a psyker as powerful as the Emperor could withstand without going insane. If this is true, and the Chief Librarian of the Ultramarines really has tapped into the Hive Mind, it would make him the most powerful active psyker in the Imperium, second only to the Immortal God Emperor himself."

Because the gratest of them all - are the Ultramarines.

This is exactly why Ward cuts so much crap from the 40k community. But none the less that is the fluff and i guess that makes him the strongest.

Mephiston.
Hei s physically mighty, and well, he is Mephiston.

Pre-Heresy: Ahzek Ahriman
Post-Heresy: Varro Tigurius

Tadashi wrote:Pre-Heresy: Ahzek Ahriman

Although I am a little biased by supporting Stormcaller even though he is an awesomely devastating figure in this area.

I have to agree that a Pre-Heresy Ahriman is the Daddy Librarian and would wipe the floor with everyone in poll...at once even, maybe
I might be pushing the boundaries there though lol?

Pre-Heresy Ahriman might not be able to wipe the floor with everyone in the poll at once...

Post-Heresy Ahriman, however... easy.

Brother Coa wrote:"The sheer accuracy of his predictions about the movement and intents of the Great Devourer have led many to believe that Tigurius has managed to penetrate the Hive Mind itself, something only a psyker as powerful as the Emperor could withstand without going insane. If this is true, and the Chief Librarian of the Ultramarines really has tapped into the Hive Mind, it would make him the most powerful active psyker in the Imperium, second only to the Immortal God Emperor himself."

Because the gratest of them all - are the Ultramarines.

That essentially means that Eldrad is more powerful than the Emperor, and that isn't true.

Ward is not a good source of fluff, Tigurius' and Draigo's fluff are both pure bs.

what about sevrin loth - the Chief libby of the Red Scorpions?

Fluff wise I believe Mephiston's fluff specifically says conquering the black rage made him the most powerful space marine librarian alive no?

Nitpick time!

Post-Heresy (and probably Pre-Heresy too!) Ahriman is a Sorcerer and therefore is disqualified from the contest... for cheating!

Brother Coa wrote:"The sheer accuracy of his predictions about the movement and intents of the Great Devourer have led many to believe that Tigurius has managed to penetrate the Hive Mind itself, something only a psyker as powerful as the Emperor could withstand without going insane. If this is true, and the Chief Librarian of the Ultramarines really has tapped into the Hive Mind, it would make him the most powerful active psyker in the Imperium, second only to the Immortal God Emperor himself."

Because the gratest of them all - are the Ultramarines.

Remember that that presents it as a theory. Besides that, it contradicts itself unless Tigurius is insane.

"If this is true"

Hence, it might not be.

I'm not a BA fanboy but I think Meph is the strongest. He's used his psychic powers to make him str 5 and t 6, that's stronger than human potential.

Mephiston has been physically warped by the plague and become something akin to his primarch albeit less powerfull.

If you go by this list I would say Varro Tigirius.

But the master is Azhek Ahriman he would dwarf them in potential, and he was already at an enormous lvl before he got touched by Tzeentch.

Mephiston. Simply being crushed by rubble repeatedly, killing Carnifexes with his bare hands and simply being awesome in-game is good. Shame he has no Invulnerable...

Tigirus is the most powerful from a pure psyker prospective, Mephiston has housed his psychic power to be the most powerful warrior psychic

Skits wrote:Ahriman.

He IS the Chief Librarian of the Thousand Sons. Just because he's now considered a traitor, has been kicked out by his primarch, and is now bouncing around the universe raiding museums and such doesn't mean he's not still a Librarian.

Absolutely. Ahriman would school the loyalist's.

hmmm, this answer could vary massively, did it have to be the most powerfull psycher? cos that would be the emperor, if it was excluding the emperor it would have to be malcador the sigilite, if it is strictly someone that has been a sm librarian at one point or another then im not really sure, ive never taken much intrest in psychic powers, us necrons dont have em.

I think counting Ahriman is a bit cheating. I think he IS more powerful of a psyker than the others. The reason he is so much more powerful is that he has already embraced Chaos and does not limit his power by refusing corruption. Hell, he is actively HUNTING power.

Now, with that out of the way, I lean more towards Tigurious. Sure, Mephiston is powerful, physically. His psychic powers have amped his physical prowess by a LARGE multitude. He's now as tough as...Chaplain Cassius. And he can strike at Str. 10!...by using a standard BA power that every Librarian knows. Now, not knocking Mephiston (just rolling my eyes occasionally. Sorry, sorry...) he IS powerful, but his powers are too limited in focus for us to truly gauge his psychic potential. All his powers focus on him, so that more shows he has mastered himself as his own psychic conduit. If he shows an ability to vaporize a Land Raider with a thought or, well, communicate with the Hive Mind, then it might be different. For now, I'm putting him in close second for being limited.

Now, Tigurious, on the other hand, does have a few vague faults. It is quite a bit in speculation exactly what he HAS done, but his powers are still far reaching without a blantant statement like Mr. Ward (go figure) made out. He knows all Space Marine powers, unlike well, anyone else (if I remember correctly). Only Mephiston can rival Tigurious' power usage.

My 2 cents on the matter.

All Chief Libys are freaking powerful. And all equal in skill. Some more than others. But Tigirus is the best predicter! Not the most powerful. Mephiston is the strongest. Alaric is the best overall. (Hehehe.)

After a Bloodthirster killed his mentor, Njal Stormcaller went mental and obliterated the Bloodthirster, he had tapped into the elements aswell as his own Psychic Potential and the Warp and handed the Bloodthirster his arse.

I know that the amount of fluff on Mephiston and Tigurius is massive but don't count the Wolf Priest out just yet.

I think that with all of the well known Liby's there is always some massive story somewhere that makes them seem like they can blow mountains apart whilst eating their Cornflakes and playing Call of Duty.

If you're going by the title Ahriman gives himself rather than what he actually is, Ahriman wins, hands down.

Otherwise, Draigo. He lives in the Warp without getting eaten.

I'd say it depends on the context of 'most powerful'. Strongest, Mephiston. Most precise predictions? Tigurius. You get the idea.
I'd say that none are over all 'better' than another, but I'd say in a psychic fight that Tigurius might win due to all the crazy stuff the Hood of Hellfire can do, depending on the edition. But hey, we all have our biases.

Alpharius wrote:Nitpick time!

Post-Heresy (and probably Pre-Heresy too!) Ahriman is a Sorcerer and therefore is disqualified from the contest... for cheating!

Alph is right...
Ahriman is cheating in this regard... use of... performance enhancing... products?

This guy....

purplefood wrote:
Alph is right...
Ahriman is cheating in this regard... use of... performance enhancing... products?

"Is the size of your sorcery getting you down? Look no further: Chaos has the answer.

No longer will the Ultramarines laugh at your puny psychic abilities, that's right: your buddy Tzeentch has got your back.

Order now and save an amazing 40%!"

Iranna.

Ahriman is chuckling at the thought of those newborns daring challenge him.

About loyal librarians (because that's the actual category of that poll ), I think we don't have enough elements on Ezekiel to really judge. His powers are more dedicated to investigation and interrogation anyway, nothing as spectacular as Njal and Meph, those posers, and to me not really comparable. We're also in the vague about what exactly Mephiston achieved to control the Black Rage.

I think they're all the best at what they do, in fact. Mephiston is a psychically enhanced wrecking ball, nobody can attain a battlefield-wide presence like Njal does, Ezekiel could likely extract secrets from a rock or a daemon, and Tigurius excels at being an ultrasmurf.

Then, if you want a generic power level... Time to put on your scouter.

Iranna wrote:"Is the size of your sorcery getting you down? Look no further: Chaos has the answer.

No longer will the Ultramarines laugh at your puny psychic abilities, that's right: your buddy Tzeentch has got your back.

Order now and save an amazing 40%!"

Oh you...
I almost coughed my toothpaste on my screen.

Marzillius wrote:
That essentially means that Eldrad is more powerful than the Emperor, and that isn't true.

This has been stated explicitly in material. No syllogism necessary.

Also, in regards to this poll, probably Ahriman. If you meant non-chaos Librarians, then Sarpedon. If you meant Imperium Librarians, then Tigurius.

Sure, Mr. of Death can take Tigurius in fisticuffs, but he's never been known for his psychic might. Tigurius has been the Imperium's greatest psyker since he was invented.