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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 03:28:33
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Roarin' Runtherd
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I bought the AOBR box set and use the orks as my standard army. I have a leftover Space Marine starter set: Space Marine Captain, Dreadnought, 5 man Terminator squad (4 power fists, 1 power sword & iron halo (I think)), 10 man tac squad w/sergeant, flamer, and missile launcher.
I would like to start a 2nd army using this set. My question is, what other space marines codices could I use this for other than codex Space Marine, with minimal conversion? I think the models are too different to be used for Space Wolves, Grey Knights, or Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels don't interest me much. That leaves me with Black Templar and Blood Angels. Both are intriguing options. Blood Angels are very competitive and Black Templars should be getting a new codex soon.
Which would be easier convert to? Would the dreadnought be usable for Blood Angels (I'm not sure the difference in the furioso vs. AOBR dreadnought?
The terminators don't have any markings that I can see to indicate that they belong to a specific chapter, but the tactical squad has a raised up arrow on their right shoulder. Is that something specific to a chapter, or is it generic? I'm thinking maybe getting some etched brass to apply to the left shoulders:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Etched_Brass
What are everyone's thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 03:32:55
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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They have Smurf stuff sculpted into them so the conversion is hard.
BA? the box is meh. JUMP PACKS FTW!
Templars: Don't think they are getting a new codex in 2012, but I might be wrong (probably, I usually am). On that subject, Kroothawk is the one to talk to for rumours, more rumours and EVEN MORE rumours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 03:36:23
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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Dreadlord is incorrect. The Arrow means "Tactical" in the Astartes handbook. It's not a Ultramarine symbol. And, anyway, all the UM symbols can be easily removed with a small file. As for using them for BA, you'll be fine. And a word of advice? Don't buy from FW just yet. Play a few games, start building up an army, read more fluff, then buy all the resin crack you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 05:47:52
Subject: Re:Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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I made Black Templars out of mine. The arrows on the shoulder are easy to scrape of with a hobby knife and a file. You could easily use them as Space wolves, too. Just add a few wolf tails and other small bits or SW specific backpacks and paint em the right color. You can't use the dread as a BA furioso because they have 2 close combat arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 06:06:49
Subject: Re:Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Mutating Changebringer
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-The terminator with the power sword does not have an iron halo
-The AoBR marines work fine as Tactical marines (or their equal) as long as they are in the correct color sceme.
Why are you uninterested in codex marines?  There are plenty of different chapters in the codex.
The only chapter that you couldn't use the AoBR marines in is the Grey Knights  . They have very specific weapon options.
-The Blood Angels have many different types of Dreadnoughts. The AoBR dread is totally acceptable as a Blood Angel.
The difference between the furioso and other dreads is that it has 2 combat arms.
-The terminators can be used as any chapters terminators except, again, the Grey Knights.
The arrow pointing up means Tactical Squad. Though not every chapter follows the codex to the letter and may or may not use the tactical markings.
-Using FW brass etchings on AoBR models...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 15:48:34
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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You'll be fne, however you want to go. All you've got to do is convert your models so that they show the actual weapons you want to use.....and people will generally cut you some slack as you are getting started.
I turned AOBR into Dark Angels. Then I turned them into a force I called Burning Angels. They have symbols of Angels, Fire and Dragons that I picked up from various locations.
I play them as Salamanders, Dark Angels, and Standard Marines. I also made a captain on a bike that I've fitted with various trophies, etc. to run as White Scars if I feel like it.
I'd suggest picking your own unique color scheme and putting some focus into special characters that allow you the flexibility to play different ways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 16:21:42
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Fixture of Dakka
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ninja'd.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/22 16:39:13
"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.
"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 16:26:36
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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if you want to use them as Space Marines, you can
If you want to use them as Space Wolves, you can.
If you want to use them as Blood Angels, you can
If you want to use them as Dark Angels, you can.
If you want to use them as Black Templars, you can.
you can make them into Tactical Marines, Sternguard, I made one into a Sgt for my Missile Launcher Devastators. I have a few painted Death Company colours.
basically as most have said you can use them for any variant of SM except GK's
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 16:33:19
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Fixture of Dakka
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Edit: Ninja'd by DeathReaper's simpler reply.
I'll add: Paint 'em all pink, or tie-dye if you want.
I took my generic, painted black with gray dry-brushing, BfM and AoBR mariens to an RTT as SW, and just made sure to mark them clearly so the MotW model was picked out. Otherwise I played each model with the weapons on it, WYSIWYG.
For all the other books, GW sells bits and bling.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440338a&rootCatGameStyle=
Although, I think to buy that those shoulder pads going over the top.
wormark wrote: Which would be easier convert to? Would the dreadnought be usable for Blood Angels (I'm not sure the difference in the furioso vs. AOBR dreadnought?
The diff between Furioso and the AoBR is the weapons load-out. So you would need the bits, but in friendly games it should not matter.
wormark wrote: The terminators don't have any markings that I can see to indicate that they belong to a specific chapter,
Actually, those marking, particularly the one on the left left shoulder, is the Crux Terminatus (sp?), pretty much what all SM chapters use to show these guys are uber veteran bad-ass dakka contributors ... oh, wait, I went too far.
wormark wrote: but the tactical squad has a raised up arrow on their right shoulder. Is that something specific to a chapter, or is it generic? I'm thinking maybe getting some etched brass to apply to the left shoulder
Take a look through a SM codex and you'll see that those 'X's arrows and skulls have Space MArine meanings pertaining to all chapters.
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"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.
"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/22 18:47:55
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Leicester uk
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DreadlordME! wrote:They have Smurf stuff sculpted into them so the conversion is hard.
BA? the box is meh. JUMP PACKS FTW!
Templars: Don't think they are getting a new codex in 2012, but I might be wrong (probably, I usually am). On that subject, Kroothawk is the one to talk to for rumours, more rumours and EVEN MORE rumours.
They don't have any chapter icons on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 03:27:08
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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I have painted the Kit up as a BA force. I'll Link you some pics of them. Sorry for the poor pictures, I wasn't very good with my cameras focus back then. I musn't have put the pic of the Tacticals online but i'll upload it tonight when I get home from work.
They all work out fine though and you can get them very cheap from ebay. I even made 2 auto cannon dreads out of AoBR dreads ( for about $12 Aus Each), just be careful with your craft knife as I needed several stitches in my thumb when I slipped while trying to cut through its arm.
The Terminators
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 05:04:12
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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I was wrong. Nice Models. I like the paint job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 20:25:04
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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You can't use them as Grey Knights? I beg to differ.
This is one I was given when I was hanging out at my FLGS and then converted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 20:33:36
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Right, you can use them as any space marine with a little conversion work.
AoBR models aren't the best for conversions given how practically everything is molded into a single piece, but it's still just plastic - that material that's really easy to cut into pieces with an x-acto knife.
If you want to do something way more different than ultramarines (like, say, dark angels or khorne berzerkers), what I would do is to buy one box of said special type and then kitbash the two together. An AOBR legs and arms with space wolves chest, head, and backpack, and another model with Space wolves head, legs and arms, with AOBR chest and backpack, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 21:35:26
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Dabedman wrote:You can't use them as Grey Knights? I beg to differ. This is one I was given when I was hanging out at my FLGS and then converted.
You can use them for any variant of SM except GK's Remember the thread is titled "Using AOBR marines as another marine army" Not "Using Converted AOBR marines as another marine army"
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 21:38:41
Subject: Re:Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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I made basic CSM out of most of the stuff in there, then made a small unit of CSM terminators and 6 obliterators out of 6 more AOBR termies. My 3 chaos dreads are slightly converted AOBR dreads. Cheapest way to do my CSM army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/23 21:40:12
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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DeathReaper wrote:Dabedman wrote:You can't use them as Grey Knights? I beg to differ.
This is one I was given when I was hanging out at my FLGS and then converted.
You can use them for any variant of SM except GK's
Remember the thread is titled "Using AOBR marines as another marine army"
Not "Using Converted AOBR marines as another marine army"
Fair point, I submit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/24 18:11:03
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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All I did was scrap off the tac marine arrow from the right shoulder pads and they make great grey hunters with the inclusion of some extra bits from the pack box.
But really they can represent any bolter toting marine with the right color scheme. Its not like they have the Ultramarine U on them anywhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/24 19:16:30
Subject: Using AOBR marines as another marine army
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Nice paint job on those models! I never thought of using blue or green for the P-fists. Looks amazing. And yes, you can use them as vanilla, BA, or BT-just paint or use decals on the non-tactical marked shoulderpad with a blood drop or cross. If you need decals, just ask-I have a ton. I'll send em to you for free, if you'll pay the shipping. Also, SW bit pieces from the kit will work to alter. Good luck.
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