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HQ
Necron overlord, warscythe, sempiternal weave Total=115
Catacomb Command Barge-85

Royal Court
Necron Lord Resurrection orb. Total=65
Cryptek- Destruction. Gaze of flame Solar pulse. Total=65
Cryptek. Storm Lightning field total= 35

Elites
Triarch Stalker- 150
Praetorian Particle casters and void blades=200

Troops
Warriors-10. 130
Warriors-10. 130
Warriors-7. 91
Warriors-7. 91
Immortals-7. Tesla. 119
Immortals-10. Gauss. 170

Fast attack
Canoptek Scarabs-7. Total= 105
Destroyers-5. 1 heavy. Total=220

Heavy Support
Canoptek Spider-3. Fabricator arrayx1. Gloom prismx1 total=175
Monolith=200
Total= 1996
Just to say, this is mainly just screwing around with different stuff. I would like some tactical hammering put into it though. Help?

C'mon people. You know you want to comment

First thing you've got to do is remove the point costs of upgrades from your list; just give the total unit cost. Dakka policy.

I'm not sure I get what you're trying to do with your royal court, or your odd unit sizes (7 warriors?)

Praetorians and Stalker seem like a weird combo for the elite slot; especially standard praetorians, but whatever...

Explain how your army is intended to function so we can have a clearer picture of how to help.

List fixed. I forgot about that particular rule.
Tactical: Lord goes with Gauss immortals. The two crypteks go with the bigger warrior squads

The spiders will stay around the monolith and stalker keeping them from being damaged out of the game. The spiders, the warriors with the destruction cryptek and the Gauss immortals will stay around to benefit from twin linked and to protect the vehicles from fire and assault. Also, my opponents have a nasty habit of killing off my troops with psychic powers so the prism will help a bit.

The destroyers and praetorians will bring around the sides to give support and killing off/ holding off problem units. The remaining troops will make up the body wherever that ends up, and the Lord and scarabs will run up and knock off vehicles as soon as possible.

Odd unit size: Just what fit and seemed good at the time.

Boil the list down to it's effective use.

You're planning on using the monolith as sort of an anchor for your army, but it's not doing much.

Your list, being slow and unfocused, presents opponents with an easy target priority decision.

Your fast units, Praetorians, CCB, Scarabs, Destroyers are going to be doing all the work and drawing all the fire, and without any redundancy, you're losing an effective part of your army with each focused choice your opponent makes.

Necron troops aren't great, they need help to be effective:
Crypteks, Resorbs, Transports, or big numbers. You're running something in between MSU and Horde, in other words, you're not creating a problem for your opponent.

A blob of 20 warriors is a problem, a squad of 7 is not.

A minimum squad of 5 warriors still lets you claim objectives, and the extra 26 points you're spending on the squad isn't helping them significantly.

So first, without changing your list too much, Let me see what I can do.

1x20 Warriors
2x5 Warriors
1x10 Tesla Immortals
1x10 Gauss Immortals

Same Price (1 point cheaper actually)
But now they do stuff.
the 2x5 warriors can chill in reserve and come in whenever the coast is clear either from your board edge or from the monolith.

Now, you're sinking a lot of points into troops, 730. That's a big chunk of your list that's only effective at 24" Yes, it's a lot of shooting, but do you really want to spend those points to have your shooting come from your troop squads?

If it is what you want, then support those troop squads, give them good crypteks/lords, throw the blob a phaeron, or stick the immortals in night scythes to expand their range and killing power.

If that's not what you want, then cut your troop budget, and put more of those points into doing what you want your army to really do.

Whatever that thing is, that's how you should build your list.


I like monoliths, one of my friends plays a list called 3-cron-monte. He uses 3 monoliths and lot of dudes with guns. The monoliths end up surrounding the enemy force, and spitting new threats out every turn (one will be the death star). Each round the monoliths close in, corralling the enemy and one of them will spit out something nasty he's teleporting from elsewhere on the board, or out of reserve, into a nice shooting range. His list creates problems for the enemy; Big LOS blocking vehicles with high armor and lots of guns dropping shooting units exactly where they need to focus fire... It's a pain in the ass to deal with.

I'm not saying that you need a gimmick like him, you just need to figure how your list creates problems for the enemy. I'm not seeing it yet.

Why does your Overlord need the weave when he will be sweeping? If he gets blown of his ride, then things firing at him will be to get past that 3+ armour save, which probably will be things like plasma and melta, which the 2+ save won't be any help with.

Not sure where the Lord is going, though I don't see the point in this model/unit. You're paying 60 points to increase your R.P by 16%. That's not a good deal, not to me at least.

Triarch Stalkers should come in pairs for redundancy and target saturation.

Warriors are really cool with Ghost Arks, they would help to your vehicle saturation too.

Monolith, a big target with short ranged, pretty expensive too. I would drop this and use the points to invest in some Ghost Arks.

Hope that helps.

How about this?
HQ
Necron Overlord- phaeron, orb, shifter=185

Court
Lord- orb=65
Lord- scarabs, scythe= 60
Cryptek- destruction, pulse=55
Cryptek- transmogrification, seismic crucible=40

Elite
Triarch stalker- 150
Death marks= 190

Troops
Warrior x20= 260
warrior x5=65
warrior x5=65
Immortals x10, Gauss= 170
Immortals x10,Tesla= 170

Fast attack
Scarabs x10= 150
Wraiths x3, 2x coils, 1x particle caster= 130

Heavy support
Monolith=200
Spiders x3, 3x claws, 1x gloom prism= 195
total= 2000

Overlord with the large warrior squad, orb lord with the Gauss immortals, the other with the other immortals, and the crypteks with the smaller warrior squads. I decided the death marks would be a better combo to this list than the praetorians.

Better, now tighten it up.

You have counters in there for enemy problems...
Enemy Mech'd up? Small scarab farm
Big horde? Lots of shooting.
Enemy Death Star? Stalker + Death Marks
Enemy MSU... almost there, but not quite.

Here's what you're saying to your enemy:

I have Good scoring potential
I have an Armor 14 Vehicle that can steal/defend objectives
I have a death squad that will remove your biggest infantry threat
I will be assaulting your vehicles early in the game
I have limited mobility, but resilient units

You can still make this better.

Improve your mobility to increase the pressure on your opponent (night scythes or second monolith maybe, or Veil-tek)
or
Improve your long range shooting (same reason)
or
Commit to a stronger assault and be less worried about defense (read - lose lords, add wraiths)


I'd say, in this case, you can shave off some troops to afford transports, you could trade out crypteks for more lances, you could double that wraith squad, you could add teleportation or transport to those death marks, You could commit to a larger scarab farm, you could add a cheap unit of tomb-blades to counter your lack of mobility, you're getting there...

So, how about taking out the transmogrification cryptek and add in a veil one? Then add him to which squad?

The deathmarks. You may also want to keep the phaeron with that unit as well.

This combo:

Phaeron + Deathmarks + Stalker
means Move & Twin Link Sniper Shots @ 24". Pretty nice.

But then no deep strike. I guess that's a good sacrifice for the advantage you get.

I thought the FAQ said you could use the veil to enter from reserves.

Overlord can't take veil.

the veil-tek should be in with the marks and overlord . . .

Ah crap. Sorry bout that. I'll make the adjustments.

I like where this list is going, and looks like my kind of aproach.
I'll be happy to know how did it play eventually and once we have the "final" version of it
Good luck!

List so far:
HQ
Necron Overlord- phaeron, orb, weave=155

Court
Lord- orb=65
Cryptek- destruction, pulse=55
Cryptek- Despair, veil=40

Elite
Triarch stalker- 150
Death marks= 190

Troops
Warrior x20= 260
warrior x5=65
warrior x5=65
Immortals x10, Gauss= 170
Immortals x10,Tesla= 170

Fast attack
Scarabs x10= 150
Wraiths x5, 4x coils, 1x particle caster= 220

Heavy support
Monolith=200
Spiders x3, 3x claws, 1x gloom prism= 195
total= 2000
As stated above, the Overlord and veiltek are with the Death marks. Any other edits? I'll probably use this list this weekend.