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Just looking at the necron book...what are the possible themes that could still be competative?

What do you mean? Themes as in army builds?
You can do quite a lot with necrons I find. Footcrons is a popular choice.

Foot slogging army of doom is still very competative.

Speedy in your face canoptek is pretty scary. Lots of scarabs and wraiths right up in your face.

Glorious Pharon and his Personal Retinue allows for some fun, sneaky builds. Big, fancy vehicles (especially if you choose a flashier color scheme to highlight the egyptian dynasty influnce). Load up on vehicles and command barges, the royal court with crypteks, and select some flashy troops as your elite guard. The various IC and crypteks allow for some sneaky tactics.

You can also build your army around some a C'Tan

Scarab farming seems popular.

Barge builds also seem fairly competitive currently.

Personally I like that the necron codex gives you a whole host of fairly delicate elements that can be combined to be lethal in a number of builds

I love the idea of the futjreistick tomb kings so i would use a lighter cokour scheme to highlight that. And yes i mean themed army builds so for instance...a dark eldar wych army...and im looking at necrons as my main 40k army i have only played fantasy for ages as im not to keen on the armies...but ive been looking at dark eldar fkr a while but cant decide.on a theme. So necrons are my new idea...

So if i was doing


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I love the idea of the futjreistick tomb kings so i would use a lighter cokour scheme to highlight that. And yes i mean themed army builds so for instance...a dark eldar wych army...and im looking at necrons as my main 40k army i have only played fantasy for ages as im not to keen on the armies...but ive been looking at dark eldar fkr a while but cant decide.on a theme. So necrons are my new idea...

So if i was doing an ancient theme. What would you recomend in the army?

riplikash wrote:Foot slogging army of doom is still very competative.

Any links to competitive examples?

If you go footcrons, I recommend ghost arks. I usually run 2 fairly decent sized warrior units (2x groups of 15 or so) lead by overlord phaerons to give them relentless, then 2x units of 5 in the ghost arks. The guys in the ghost arks I usually give them the crypteks of destruction and try and pop light vehicles like rhinos and the such.

The ghost arks will help out with the fallen foot sloggers.

If you plan on going heavy immortal, dont bother with ghost arks since they're too pricey and not worth it, and to be effectively you'll likely need to wait for the night scythe/doom scythe kits to come out since that will be their key transport.

I fail to see how using transports represents 'footcrons'?


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I was thinking something more along these lines:

1850 Pts - Necrons Roster
HQ 1
A Overlord ( Warscythe; Resurrection Orb; Phaeron)
1 Royal Court
A Harbinger of Destruction (Eldritch Lance; Gaze of Flame)
A Harbinger of the Storm (Voltaic Staff; Lightning Field)
A Lord (Warscythe; Resurrection Orb)

HQ 2
B Overlord( Warscythe; Resurrection Orb; Phaeron)
1 Royal Court
B Harbinger of Despair ( Abyssal Staff; Veil of Darkness)
B Harbinger of the Storm ( Voltaic Staff; Lightning Field)
B Harbinger of Destruction (Eldritch Lance; Gaze of Flame)

Troops
20 Warriors (Attach: Overlord A, Harbinger of Destruction A, Harbinger of the Storm B)
20 Warriors (Attach: Overlord B, Harbiner of Destruction B, Harbinger of the Storm A)
20 Warriors (Attach: Lord A)
10 Immortals -Tesla Carbines (Attach: Harbinger of Despair B)

Elite
5 Flayed One Pack
Fast Attack
5 Destroyers (Gauss Cannon x3; Heavy Gauss Cannon x2)

Read what a ghost ark does. Ignore the transport capacity and realize its support roll for a warrior footslogging list.

Yeah, re-read the points cost. It sucks. It's only usfulness is running stripped down 5 man squads and maybe attaching a nasty shooty Cryptek. No thank you.

What NecronLord3 said. You can get almost 8 more warriors for the price of each Ark. Plus, the Ark can only reanimate D3 warriors a turn, chances are that your two mini squads of 5 crons will be wiped from the board before they could take advantage of that ability (if you disembarked), and getting back 1-3 warriors isn't really going to make a serious difference to squads of 15. Its perhaps the most useless unit in the Necron book, and yet it is so heavily championed by the masses.

If it was anywhere near the cost of a Rhino or Chimera, I'd take 4 but it is just to over costed(for now).

Ghost Arks, are good, but they aren't a plug and play unit.

You can't just throw them into a list, and expect them to work well.

Ghost Arks do this for the Army

-Provide more AV13 Saturation
-Dedicated Transport For Warriors, works excellent with Double lanceteks
-Revives dead Warriors
-Can be hijacked by a court, for use as an open topped transport, for assaulting.

Now, the "D3" warriors may not seem like a big deal, but it can help a unit rally, that's normally understrength, and makes a pretty big difference in large units of warriors. Rallying a unit alone, can make up it's point cost.

The AV 13 saturation is huge, especially if it's toting double lances. It can really muddle target priority. A few people like Mercer, have shown the Lethality of an AV13 saturation list.

Are they Overpriced? A bit, yeah. They are still useful though.

And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

To be honest guys the OP was about what themes theyre where presented in the book...so to bring it back (btw you guys have brought up some good points and its nice to see just how much you can get in one list (i see alot of immortal based lists with barely any models)) so i have footslogging.. Model wise i really like the Arks ( i think) theyre the long ones arnt they lol

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

Ok my list comes to 3 doomsdays 3 units of 9 crons 3ghost arks an over lord with warsythe and a res orb and 2 lords equipped the same in the two other units... At 1.5 hows that?

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

What Mercer examples? The ones where he loses everytime or the one where he beat the Tau? Wow, Tau lose, shocker. A 3 C'Tan and 30 Scarabs list would have tabled that army too.

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

What Mercer examples? The ones where he loses everytime or the one where he beat the Tau? Wow, Tau lose, shocker. A 3 C'Tan and 30 Scarabs list would have tabled that army too.

It really looks like you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Here, I'll enlighten you.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/428567.page Win VS DE Venom Spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/427691.page Win VS BA
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424606.page Win VS IG
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/419709.page Win VS Salamander Melta spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/415246.page Win vs Razorspam

Wow! That sure is a lot of wins Vs Tau.. Oh wait. That's a lot of wins, against a variety of armies. Imagine that.

Perhaps you should do some research next time, instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, when you clearly have no idea.

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

What Mercer examples? The ones where he loses everytime or the one where he beat the Tau? Wow, Tau lose, shocker. A 3 C'Tan and 30 Scarabs list would have tabled that army too.

It really looks like you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Here, I'll enlighten you.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/428567.page Win VS DE Venom Spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/427691.page Win VS BA
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424606.page Win VS IG
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/419709.page Win VS Salamander Melta spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/415246.page Win vs Razorspam

Wow! That sure is a lot of wins Vs Tau.. Oh wait. That's a lot of wins, against a variety of armies. Imagine that.

Perhaps you should do some research next time, instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, when you clearly have no idea.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421530.page Loss
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/416180.page Loss
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/01/40k-battle-report-necrons-vs.html Loss

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

What Mercer examples? The ones where he loses everytime or the one where he beat the Tau? Wow, Tau lose, shocker. A 3 C'Tan and 30 Scarabs list would have tabled that army too.

It really looks like you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Here, I'll enlighten you.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/428567.page Win VS DE Venom Spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/427691.page Win VS BA
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424606.page Win VS IG
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/419709.page Win VS Salamander Melta spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/415246.page Win vs Razorspam

Wow! That sure is a lot of wins Vs Tau.. Oh wait. That's a lot of wins, against a variety of armies. Imagine that.

Perhaps you should do some research next time, instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, when you clearly have no idea.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421530.page Loss
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/416180.page Loss
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/01/40k-battle-report-necrons-vs.html Loss

5 wins to 3 losses. Still good.

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:

Sasori wrote:

NecronLord3 wrote:And that AV 13 means squat when you are being assaulted by any half decent SM squad with one(or more) powerfists or hammers. Not to mention the prolific melta spam lists. IG do mech lists cheaper and better than anything Necrons could possibly pull off and there are plenty of lists that can cut through them like a hot knife through butter Necrons don't have a prayer in that department.

That point is moot though as the question was about examples of good footslogging lists, not mech AV13 spam or augmented by transports lists.

Well, for one, your vehicles shouldn't be assaulted by a Tac squad. That's poor play on your part. Yes, Melta spam is common, but you should be preventing it from getting in 6'. IG do AV 12 Mechspam better than anyone, but Necrons are the only ones that can do AV13 spam

Saying Necrons don't have a prayer in the Mech spam department, is hogwash. Just take a look at Mercers battle reports for example.

It sounds like to me, that you haven't played this kind of list at all.

What Mercer examples? The ones where he loses everytime or the one where he beat the Tau? Wow, Tau lose, shocker. A 3 C'Tan and 30 Scarabs list would have tabled that army too.

It really looks like you have no idea what you're talking about at all. Here, I'll enlighten you.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/428567.page Win VS DE Venom Spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/427691.page Win VS BA
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424606.page Win VS IG
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/419709.page Win VS Salamander Melta spam
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/415246.page Win vs Razorspam

Wow! That sure is a lot of wins Vs Tau.. Oh wait. That's a lot of wins, against a variety of armies. Imagine that.

Perhaps you should do some research next time, instead of pretending to know what you're talking about, when you clearly have no idea.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421530.page Loss
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/416180.page Loss
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/01/40k-battle-report-necrons-vs.html Loss

The 1st and the 3rd are the same battle, and the second Mercer is playing Blood Angels, Not necrons.

Like, you don't even bother to read what you post. That's just pathetic.

5 wins, 1 loss.