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I'm trying to plan how I will likely use my Crisis Suits and I came across a situation that seems legal, but also seems a little fishy.

Is it legal to give a model in a Crisis Suit two of the same Weapon Systems (making it Twin-linked), one other Weapon System, and a Hard-wired Multi-tracker so that the model can fire the tTwin-linked weapon and the other weapon in the same Shooting Phase? For example, can a model with a Twin-linked Fusion Blaster and one Plasma Gun fire them both if he has a Hard-Wired Multi-tracker?

I know that Games Workshop's FAQ Errata specifically says that a Multi-tracker "... enables the model to fire two weapons in the same turn", but it also seems like I am getting away with firing three Weapons Systems. I know that plenty of other models in the game can fire a Twin-linked gun regardless of the fact that a model can usually only fire one weapon, so it seemed legal to me. Does anyone know if this kind of situation is specifically mentioned anywhere? I think it's legal, but I'd hate to be told that I gave my models too many weapons in the middle of an important game.

It's legal. A twin-linked weapon is treated exactly like a single weapon. A multi-tracker lets you fire two weapons (making no mention of weapon systems) so you could technically fire two twin-linked weapons if you wanted and it was possible to take them.

Modeling this will be fun for you though lol.

Abandon wrote:Modeling this will be fun for you though lol.

Shoulder-mounted Plasma guns, Predator style!

Abandon wrote:Modeling this will be fun for you though lol.

Not really. There are 4 slots on the model where you can have weapons pointing forward and two slots you can have the guns pointed up (like they are in a rest position).

OP: this is really common for Team leaders and commanders. I usually make my team leaders Twinlinked missile pods and Plasma gun. Really dangerous against light transports.

Actually the arms you can mount two stations on each one inside one outside. The arms needs to be away from the body though. There two slots on the shoulders that slide onto the shoulders as well.

The only problem with this is Twin-Linked Weapons take up 2 hard points. And you have 3 hard points total. Unless you are only putting them on Shas'vre, Shas'el, or Shas'o models its illegal. Also that would be alot of points dumped into one model.

Fireknife wrote:The only problem with this is Twin-Linked Weapons take up 2 hard points. And you have 3 hard points total. Unless you are only putting them on Shas'vre, Shas'el, or Shas'o models its illegal. Also that would be alot of points dumped into one model.

I was planning on using them on the Commander and Bodyguard units, as I only have 6 Crisis Suit models for a moderately large army and didn't want to go purchase anymore. I'm hoping that if I load up my 6 Crisis Suits with a lot of guns to kill what my way-too-many Fire Warrior can't, I'll still be able to put up a good fight. My plan was to spend my Hard Points on Weapons Systems, and try and use Hard-wired upgrades for the Multi-trackers and/or Drone Controllers the squad may have.

It's perfectly legal and quite effective. I use it on my Shas'el, and he costs ~100pts for mobile tank-wrecking fury. I generally just deepstrike him in behind/beside the enemies largest tank, hopefully pop it, and then either die and force the enemy to waste time killing him or he escapes to wreak havoc.
And you don't have to actually model the Hard-wired Multi-Tracker. Pg. 25 of the Tau Empire codex - "all equipment, other than wargear (which is assumed to be integrated), must be represented on the model." Hard-wired equipment comes under the wargear designation in the chart.

Edit: Forgot a quote.

You can take one twin linked weapon, another weapon, and then hard wire the mulit-tracker just fine. I did it all the time when I ran specific crisis suits.

Fireknife wrote:The only problem with this is Twin-Linked Weapons take up 2 hard points. And you have 3 hard points total. Unless you are only putting them on Shas'vre, Shas'el, or Shas'o models its illegal. Also that would be alot of points dumped into one model.

A Shas'ui team leaders can take it too. Not terribly expensive. 5 points to upgrade to the Team leader (which your probably doing anyway) and +6 points to add the twinlinked fuision blaster.

Yea, I didn't know if he meant all his Crisis Suits as in the Elite slots too.

And what I said is still correct

Shas'vre = Team Leader
Shas'el = Cheap Commander
Shas'o = Expensive Commander

I've just seen newer players not understand the Hard Point system and try to load up all their suits to the 100pt maximum.

Fireknife wrote:
Shas'vre = Team Leader

Not sure what you mean by this. In the elite slot the Team Leader is half the upgrade cost of a Shas'vre and uses Shas'ui stat line.

Why is this sub-discussion(Twin Linked, second weapon, and multi-tracker) only being discussed with Crisis suits in mind?

A broadside(indeed all 3 in a team) can have Multi-trackers to go along with their Twin-linked Rail guns and SMS(which you can also have as a Twin linked Plasma rifle).

So there you have it: Simple legality of a T-L and single weapon, or 2x Twin linked and a Multi-tracker, and yes you can fire both weapon systems.

You can also do 3 weapons if you like

MP/PR and FG....

w/ HW multi tracker you get too fire whatever 2 you like....

A take all comers style Shas'el etc.... Interesting idea but most likely not point cost effective....

Also in regards to modeling, you don't nned to model hard-wired systems.