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Im just wondering ..
I can get a brand new Warhammer Fantasy battles for 50euros (!!!!!), the armies are amazing and the price is unbeatable.
Unfortunately, 40k doesnt provide the armies I like. The issue is so few people play warhammer fb... why is that ?

Possibly an image thing, a teenage male is more likely to admit to his peers that he's fighting aliens with tanks and genetically-engineered super-warriors than they are to confess they play a game of elves and dwarves.

Sci-fi seems more acceptable than "high fantasy", in a nutshell.

Also the options for conversion and individuality are wider, and writing your own backstory is easier when you've got a whole galaxy to set it in, the scope is wider with 40k.

Just my opinion, anyway.

Dawn of War games can't hurt either.

It's mainly because of Dawn of War. I really want some company to make a Warhammer Fantasy RTS-game, that can highlight that game. WHFB is a better game than 40k.

Fantasy is growing though, with the reboot GW made in 2010, and all the releases it got in 2011.

Here in northern Sweden we have almost as many WHFB as 40k players.

I've put my WoC army on ebay as 8th edition sucks, imo. It's probably that Ward-effect.

Warhammer FB has/had a mmorpg to promote it. How's that working out?

I'd say it's about even for FB and 40k around these parts, but maybe 40k is a bit more popular because it's easier to play? Just my opinion anyways.

My local GW just started a year long Fantasy Campaign. LotR on sundays and 40k only.if.you make a table booking.

My oldest son was given a FB boxed set a few years ago from his grandpa.

He opened it up, and played exactly one game. *meh* he said.

Later we went to the store and saw the 40k boxed set, there was no turning back.

I like both, but the fact is that 40k just seems quite cooler, overall the models are more interesting, the fluff so over the top grimdark that it crosses both funny and awesome at the same time. Not to mention it has everything a Sci-Fi person would want.

I thought about digging my Fantasy models out when I relapsed into wargaming, and changed my mind as soon as I heard of random charge distances.

40k is more geared to kiddies with lots of easy rules and throwing buckets of dice at each other. FB is much slower paced, more tactical, and quite a bit more boring.

Kevlar wrote:40k is more geared to kiddies with lots of easy rules and throwing buckets of dice at each other. FB is much slower paced, more tactical, and quite a bit more boring.

I assure you you can get pretty much as tactical as you want on 40k, and the wording of many rules can be described as anything but "easy"

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:Possibly an image thing, a teenage male is more likely to admit to his peers that he's fighting aliens with tanks and genetically-engineered super-warriors than they are to confess they play a game of elves and dwarves.

Sci-fi seems more acceptable than "high fantasy", in a nutshell.

Also the options for conversion and individuality are wider, and writing your own backstory is easier when you've got a whole galaxy to set it in, the scope is wider with 40k.

Just my opinion, anyway.

The whole point about it being more "acceptable" and as an image thing is utter malarky. If you're already playing with toy soldiers, you don't give a damn about whether they're in space or fantasyland. Now the second point about conversions and individuality, that's valid. Some people have said the Dawn of War games have helped, and they have, but 40k was bigger than WHFB before those games. 40k has more of an "it" factor with Space Marines, and draws from much more recognizable and popular sources, like Starship Troopers, Dune and the like. Also, many people like myself see Fantasy as a much more derivative setting. I'm tired of elves and dwarves and not-Englishmen in medieval not-Europe. A lot of things in Fantasy don't feel as distinct as they do in 40k, to put it simply. Personally, I enjoy sci-fi far more than fantasy as a setting, since it can take a number of fantasy tropes and blend them with futuristic themes, weapons, and ideas. 40k is sci-fantasy and takes the best of both worlds to make something just a little more special.

It seemed like 40k was the dominant games-workshop flagship even when i first started in the mid 90s, I'd argue that the dawn of war games are popular because of the 40k setting, the 40k setting didn't get popular because of the dawn of war games.

My guess is big shoulder pads is the reason. People can't get enough of those things.