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http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10925834-which-are-americas-fattest-cities

Saw this on the cover of MSN there is always one of these at least once or twice a year.

My current place of residence made it to number 2!

good job Binghamton!


Anyone ever notice when they do these articles they always show images of fat butts?

This just goes to show that someone need to take a real look at the obesity issue. I remember I was smoking on an outdoor patio clearly labeled "smoking section" when some fat lady said very rudely told me that she was trying to eat here. My response was "Maybe you shouldn't".

Not that smoking is good for you, but obesity costs this country much more than smoking and I don't see any warning signs on twinkies or outrageous taxes on big macs.

Andrew1975 wrote:This just goes to show that someone need to take a real look at the obesity issue. I remember I was smoking on an outdoor patio clearly labeled "smoking section" when some fat lady said very rudely told me that she was trying to eat here. My response was "Maybe you shouldn't".

Not that smoking is good for you, but obesity costs this country much more than smoking and I don't see any warning signs on twinkies or outrageous taxes on big macs.

Yup.

I don't smoke either, but have found it amusing some people with very unhealthy life practices, in this case obesity, call out smokers on being unhealthy and disgusting. My first year of college my friend... rmmm class mate? was smoking 30 feet or so from the building (the required distance to smoke) and there was a obese girl sitting on a bench about 10 yards away, she went up to him and told him his smoking was bothering her health.

He responded saying It's not your additions 120+ pounds of fat or the fact the school is off a high way with thousands of cars driving by?

A city named "McAllen-Edinburg-Mission" strikes me as an incredibly stuck up arrogant city.

It's just the name I'm sure ,but seriously, wtf is with that name?

Melissia wrote:A city named "McAllen-Edinburg-Mission" strikes me as an incredibly stuck up arrogant city.

It's just the name I'm sure ,but seriously, wtf is with that name?

Is it really one town? Or are they lumping like here in New York we have the "triple cities" Johnson City-Endicott-Binghamton.

Piston Honda wrote:http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10925834-which-are-americas-fattest-cities

Saw this on the cover of MSN there is always one of these at least once or twice a year.

My current place of residence made it to number 2!

good job Binghamton!


Anyone ever notice when they do these articles they always show images of fat butts?

That can't be right-your 5 Guys burger shack doesn't serve enough fries in their portions to make it the fattest city
I kid-I love 5 guys fries. Coincidentally, I live an hour east of you-I went to Binghamton for college, hobby supplies, and of course, 5 guys

Well, it's pretty sad to hear that this current generation of school-aged kids are going to be the first generation to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents.

But then, it's not surprising that so many North Americans in general are so grossly overwieght when you see that people actually eat foods like this kind of crap; http://thisiswhyyourefat.tumblr.com/

Experiment 626 wrote:Well, it's pretty sad to hear that this current generation of school-aged kids are going to be the first generation to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents.

But then, it's not surprising that so many North Americans in general are so grossly overwieght when you see that people actually eat foods like this kind of crap; http://thisiswhyyourefat.tumblr.com/

I can honestly say that nothing on that list even looks remotely appetizing.

timetowaste85 wrote:
I can honestly say that nothing on that list even looks remotely appetizing.

Some of the names are pretty lol'ertastic though!

However I still can't fathom why someone would actually eat crap like a BLT containing a full pound of bacon, or something called a 'Flatline Burger'.

timetowaste85 wrote:

Piston Honda wrote:http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10925834-which-are-americas-fattest-cities

Saw this on the cover of MSN there is always one of these at least once or twice a year.

My current place of residence made it to number 2!

good job Binghamton!


Anyone ever notice when they do these articles they always show images of fat butts?

That can't be right-your 5 Guys burger shack doesn't serve enough fries in their portions to make it the fattest city
I kid-I love 5 guys fries. Coincidentally, I live an hour east of you-I went to Binghamton for college, hobby supplies, and of course, 5 guys

I went to BU too

small world!


I never been to 5 guys

Though I've been trying to eat healthy recently. Heart attacks plague the make side of my family. But every now and then I do pig out. Like bacon pizza.

That melt sandwich is from Cleveland. It's not a regular menu item, but one of those contest foods designed more as a marketing gimmick. Some of my friends own that place, and while the food is delicious you really shouldn't eat there more than once a month. There is about a stick of butter melted into each piece of bread, its really good, but be warned, it is not good for you.

San Antonio should be up there, my god, at least half of the people I see over 25-30 are obese and the younger ones are headed that way fast.

ofc, I'm technically obese according to the BMI, so I have to wonder if they based this on BF% or BMI.

Piston Honda wrote:Is it really one town? Or are they lumping like here in New York we have the "triple cities" Johnson City-Endicott-Binghamton.

Ah, you're right. It's a metropolitan area.

"Mission" is still a stuck up name though.

Andrew1975 wrote:That melt sandwich is from Cleveland. It's not a regular menu item, but one of those contest foods designed more as a marketing gimmick. Some of my friends own that place, and while the food is delicious you really shouldn't eat there more than once a month. There is about a stick of butter melted into each piece of bread, its really good, but be warned, it is not good for you.

I see your melt, and raise you this:

While I admit that I care more for taste than health in food (I can always jog it off after all), that makes me feel like throwing up a little. It doesn't look either tasty OR healthy.

I so wish I was in Philly right now

I'll take a #6 extra super sized with two dollar burgers, a crispy chicken, 4 ranch cups and A DIET COKE



like diet coke is actually any better for you

Andrew1975 wrote:This just goes to show that someone need to take a real look at the obesity issue. I remember I was smoking on an outdoor patio clearly labeled "smoking section" when some fat lady said very rudely told me that she was trying to eat here. My response was "Maybe you shouldn't".

Not that smoking is good for you, but obesity costs this country much more than smoking and I don't see any warning signs on twinkies or outrageous taxes on big macs.

While I agree that obesity is as much of a health problem it's a floored parallel. I can stand by fat person eating a big mac without having to suffer their stinking habit myself.

Right, ti's not like obese people are shoving burgers down our throats. But smokers ARE blowing smoke down our lungs.

That's not to say I don't support their decision to pay extra taxes for the privilege of stinking like crap. That's admirable.

Man, some of the food on that thing...

You gotta wonder why obesity is rampant in some countrys but not so much in others. I mean, the food in the UK is pretty fattening on the whole, and while the UK has an obesity problem, it's not as bad as the US by a long ways. Ireland seems to run on beer and fried breakfasts, but again, while we're one of the worst in Europe for obesity and heart disease, not as bad as the US.

Da Boss wrote:Man, some of the food on that thing...

You gotta wonder why obesity is rampant in some countrys but not so much in others. I mean, the food in the UK is pretty fattening on the whole, and while the UK has an obesity problem, it's not as bad as the US by a long ways. Ireland seems to run on beer and fried breakfasts, but again, while we're one of the worst in Europe for obesity and heart disease, not as bad as the US.

A lot of it is food costs and portioning. I can get a large deep dish cheese from Giordano's for ~20 USD. This pizza has 8 slices, each slice is 550 calories. They claim the pizza serves 3-4 people. Its basically 2 days of food for 1 person, so about 10 USD per day for what is, essentially, a near luxury food.

When I was in Spain it cost me about 30 USD per day to get ~2000 calories per day with food of similar quality.

That said, I think the bigger issue is just the way different nations look at being fat. No major nation I know of likes it, but some of them seem largely indifferent to it. I imagine that climate plays a significant role, as do the nature of traditional foods. For example traditional Japanese foods are quite healthy, as are most traditional Spanish foods.

ifStatement wrote:

Andrew1975 wrote:This just goes to show that someone need to take a real look at the obesity issue. I remember I was smoking on an outdoor patio clearly labeled "smoking section" when some fat lady said very rudely told me that she was trying to eat here. My response was "Maybe you shouldn't".

Not that smoking is good for you, but obesity costs this country much more than smoking and I don't see any warning signs on twinkies or outrageous taxes on big macs.

While I agree that obesity is as much of a health problem it's a floored parallel. I can stand by fat person eating a big mac without having to suffer their stinking habit myself.

Yes but your health care costs are largely affected by that obese person chowing down on and feeding that crap to their kids three meals a day. Rarely in the US anyway are you forced to endure my cigarette smoke. As a bar owner I personally love the no smoking rules for inclosed spaces. My eyes don't burn anymore. Eating and drinking until obesity is almost celebrated as a right in this country. I'd be happy with an ad campaign that just told people to drink water once in a while instead of soda or sweat tea. I swear there are people who have not had a glass of water in years. I'm not a health nut, but some people just make me sick to look at. My wife is a barriatric surgeon, there are people that loose the weight and put it right back on in a few years because they restretch their stomachs and drink soda all day.

As a smoker I pay a larger insurance premium, huge taxes, and have to endure all the anti smoking marketing. Obese asses just mow on big macs until I have to pay for their scooters and give them handicap parking spaces. If you look at the costs, obesity costs the average person much more that smokers.

I'm subjected to obese peoples problems all the time. Have you ever had to sit next to these people on an airplane or bus? They bubble over into your seat, and talk about stink! There should be warnings on bad food just like there are on smokes. If they want to put pictures of black lungs on packs of smokes there should be a picture of a 500lb person on every can of soda, chip bag and fast food wrapper.

A lot of it is food costs and portioning. I can get a large deep dish cheese from Giordano's for ~20 USD. This pizza has 8 slices, each slice is 550 calories. They claim the pizza serves 3-4 people. Its basically 2 days of food for 1 person, so about 10 USD per day for what is, essentially, a near luxury food.

When I was in Spain it cost me about 30 USD per day to get ~2000 calories per day with food of similar quality.

That said, I think the bigger issue is just the way different nations look at being fat. No major nation I know of likes it, but some of them seem largely indifferent to it. I imagine that climate plays a significant role, as do the nature of traditional foods. For example traditional Japanese foods are quite healthy, as are most traditional Spanish foods.

This is absolutely true. It's cheap and easy to eat like crap in the US. What is difficult is getting healthy food at a good price and cooking it at home. It takes time, effort and skill to make a good home cooked meal. It's totally worth it if you do though. I love to have fast food once in a while, in fact I just had to try 1 Doritos locos taco yesterday.....1. Not 5.

dogma wrote:For example traditional Japanese foods are quite healthy

I dunno if I'd mention Japan here. Japan, as a culture, is incredibly screwed up. "You're one pound over the standard weight (even if that pound is because of muscle), YOU ARE FAT AND EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH YOU IS CAUSED BY YOU BEING HORRENDOUSLY OVERWEIGHT!"

timetowaste85 wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:Well, it's pretty sad to hear that this current generation of school-aged kids are going to be the first generation to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents.

But then, it's not surprising that so many North Americans in general are so grossly overwieght when you see that people actually eat foods like this kind of crap; http://thisiswhyyourefat.tumblr.com/

I can honestly say that nothing on that list even looks remotely appetizing.

The Guinness chocolate pudding sounded pretty good.

DIDM wrote:I'll take a #6 extra super sized with two dollar burgers, a crispy chicken, 4 ranch cups and A DIET COKE



like diet coke is actually any better for you

That's something I completely and totally loathe; I need to be HEALTHY! but I love my pop. I'm going to drink a 12 can pack of soda daily, but it's ok, it's Diet!

Melissia wrote:Right, ti's not like obese people are shoving burgers down our throats. But smokers ARE blowing smoke down our lungs.

Darker than Black taught me that second hand smoke is three times deadlier than first hand smoke

Poor November Eleven.


You know, I've only ever run into one person whom I said "Heh, I can't beleive you don't realize why your fat, donkey cave." Was my boss at one of my jobs; every day around 5ish, I had to pull out cookies, brownies the like for the people I took care of (Was a dietary aide at a hospital). Well, around Christmas time, we found out that I needed Christmas off, so I put in a thing saying "Hey, I can't work Christmas". Well, she took it as "I'm a spoiled brat and 'cant' work Christmas because I don't want to". So I immediately put in my 2 weeks.

Now, we were in bad blood because of that, but I stayed my two weeks anyway. This lady is the type that drinks "Very disgusting tea" every day because it helps her manage her weight, but that didn't stop her from scarfing down ten cookies every single day, preventing us from having enough cookies for the residents. I got blamed for it every day, though I was told by her daughter that she put on a good twenty pounds at the end of the two weeks.

Slarg232 wrote:

DIDM wrote:I'll take a #6 extra super sized with two dollar burgers, a crispy chicken, 4 ranch cups and A DIET COKE



like diet coke is actually any better for you

That's something I completely and totally loathe; I need to be HEALTHY! but I love my pop. I'm going to drink a 12 can pack of soda daily, but it's ok, it's Diet!

I agree-most overweight people drink diet coke, or CANCER coke, as I call it-studies have shown that aspartame is more likely to cause cancer than sugar-and it really doesn't cause you to be less fat than high fructose corn syrup. If you want healthier soda, get the old school pepsi with real sugar. It's a tad bit better for you.

I'm being dragged to family Easter dinner this year (gives me a chance to play Talisman, Ascension and Pandemic with my uncles/cousin though, which is why I agreed to go along). I guess I'll get a slice of pizza on my way home from it. "What, why is he getting pizza after an Easter feast? Is he a fatty?" No, true believers-it's because my aunt is cooking dinner, and she throws so much fatty slop onto EVERYTHING, that I can't eat 95% of the stuff on the table-so I'll starve during dinner, and get something moderately healthy on my way home. I think she cooks every meal with a pound of Crisco. My cousins are both so overweight that they're near diabetic. And the eldest is only in middle school-he ate so much one night that when he laid down to sleep 4 hours after the meal, he threw up, because there was so much food in his system, it had nowhere else to go when he laid down. The family keeps arguing with my aunt/uncle's section of the family about obesity, but nobody takes any steps.

Melissia wrote:

dogma wrote:For example traditional Japanese foods are quite healthy

I dunno if I'd mention Japan here. Japan, as a culture, is incredibly screwed up. "You're one pound over the standard weight (even if that pound is because of muscle), YOU ARE FAT AND EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH YOU IS CAUSED BY YOU BEING HORRENDOUSLY OVERWEIGHT!"

Obesity is funny. I was obese when I was 18-19 at 5'9 250, but it was mostly muscle. The idea that muscle weight doesn't contribute to obesity needs to be considered carefully.

dogma wrote: Obesity is funny. I was obese when I was 18-19 at 5'9 250, but it was mostly muscle. The idea that muscle weight doesn't contribute to obesity needs to be considered carefully.

It shouldn't, but at a weight of 250 at 5'9, even when it is MOSTLY muscle, that is extremely heavy for a person of that height. When you're 250 at 5'9, its only okay if it is ALL muscle. And even then, its not a healthy weight. Were you wrestling by any chance?

LumenPraebeo wrote:
It shouldn't, but at a weight of 250 at 5'9, even when it is MOSTLY muscle, that is extremely heavy for a person of that height. When you're 250 at 5'9, its only okay if it is ALL muscle. And even then, its not a healthy weight. Were you wrestling by any chance?

Football and wrestling.

Well, sort of, I pushed up to 250 after deciding I was going to play college ball, prior I had been ~210-220. I'm now ~180.

That being said, I'm not convinced muscle shouldn't contribute to obesity assessments. It has its way of impacting biochemistry, and obviously cartilage wear.