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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 13:11:15
Subject: What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Southend, Essex
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So as birthday present I got myself some Cold One Cavalry as I wanted to start Fantasy and start with Lizardmen and basically said 'get me anything to do with Lizardmen please' as I wasn't sure on what to suggest. Upon reading up on forums though it seems that cavalry sucks in this edition and that Cold Ones are a bad choice.
So I was just wondering what I should do with them? Are they viable? Or is there something I can do with them to make them viable?
Much appreciated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 15:36:18
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Assault Kommando
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If you have some models and want to use them, go ahead. Don't let the internet talk you out of it.
As for the cold one cavalry, i think they are very useful. You can't charge them straight into the front of a unit like some other units. If you instead get a good flank charge with them and have a block of saurus in the front, you can easily disrupt a unit and break them. Plus with a 1+ save and Str 5 on the charge, they can hunt small units very well. Just try them out and you will eventually get the hang of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 16:27:14
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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When people say cavelry are bad, they are only comparing it to 7th edition(where Cavelry was God)
Cavelry are still useful, as flankers and supporting charges. Use the Cold One Cavelry to support a block of Saurus in a fight or chase off enemy flankers. They are a decent cavelry unit overall, 1+ armor, T4, 2A, Str4(5), and a Str4 mount. And Cold Blooded too.
A Small unit of 5 is probably the best set up as a flanker/harrasment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 18:58:49
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Sneaky Lictor
Sacramento, CA
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Hellstorm wrote:If you have some models and want to use them, go ahead. Don't let the internet talk you out of it.
Grey Templar wrote:When people say cavelry are bad, they are only comparing it to 7th edition(where Cavelry was God)
qfts.
I, like you OP, thought cavalry were bad when I migrated from 40k last year, due to what I read on the internet, whether it be reasonable statements or unreasonable complaints - "Cavalry is nerfed." "No point in taking my Knights now..." "Cavalry are even more vulnerable to WMs now!" "Cavalry took a HUGE hit in 8th...". So I avoided Cold One Knights in my DE army. Big mistake. The more and more and I played (and researched), I began to figure out cavalry aren't bad at all. They're just not as good as they used to be. So don't make the same mistake I did!!!
As Grey Templar and Hellstorm said, they are useful. I'd recommend to any player who plays an army that has access to them, to have at least 1 unit of them (not in all lists, but just in your collection, just in case).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 19:24:27
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Southend, Essex
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Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:Hellstorm wrote:If you have some models and want to use them, go ahead. Don't let the internet talk you out of it.
Grey Templar wrote:When people say cavelry are bad, they are only comparing it to 7th edition(where Cavelry was God)
qfts.
I, like you OP, thought cavalry were bad when I migrated from 40k last year, due to what I read on the internet, whether it be reasonable statements or unreasonable complaints - "Cavalry is nerfed." "No point in taking my Knights now..." "Cavalry are even more vulnerable to WMs now!" "Cavalry took a HUGE hit in 8th...". So I avoided Cold One Knights in my DE army. Big mistake. The more and more and I played (and researched), I began to figure out cavalry aren't bad at all. They're just not as good as they used to be. So don't make the same mistake I did!!!
As Grey Templar and Hellstorm said, they are useful. I'd recommend to any player who plays an army that has access to them, to have at least 1 unit of them (not in all lists, but just in your collection, just in case).
Thanks very much, I love the models so I'm glad they are useful and after looking into it a bit more I realise now that I was pretty naive to just assume they'd be bad.
I realise there a stand out good things in the codex and Cold One Cavalry aren't one for this edition but I also realise that as Dr. C says they are worth fitting into some lists.
Been a great help and I've just got finished building them and can't wait to paint them.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/31 20:08:51
Subject: What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Powerful Irongut
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I find cavalry rather useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/01 19:41:19
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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One thing a friend of mine did was convert Terradons and Salamanders from them. With a little green stuff, leg repositioning and plasticard/cardboard to make wings, it can be done. Sadly, I have no pictures, but something to consider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/01 20:35:55
Subject: What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/01 22:58:20
Subject: What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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They are not bad and I have seen them used to great effect. I wouldnt use them in small armies since they just become a points sink. But at 2.5 to 3k there is no problem with fielding a unit of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 14:26:21
Subject: Re:What should I build with a box of Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry?
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Skink Armed with a Blowpipe
New York
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Cavalry in General: Cavalry have their uses and fill a more proper role. Nothing about 10 man cavalry unit charging a unit of infantry and breaking them from a frontal charge makes sense. Historically, the Swiss Pike phalanx was known to destroy heavily armoured Knights when they charged the phalanx in the front. 7th made no sense what-so-ever. Now, Cavalry fill the role their supposed to and it makes more sense.
Now to Cold One Cavlary: Cold one Cavalry are easily 10 points to expensive for what they bring. Their only redeeming factor is that after the charge instead of reverting to S3 like Human Knights do, they become S4. big deal.
I used my box fo CoC to make 3 Scar Vets, one with a Great Weapon, one with a Halberd, and one with HW&S. I use the remaining as Unit Fillers.
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