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Is it time that video technology was introduced into football? With all the controversy at the moment, ranging from the 'goal that wasn't' in the Chelsea vs Tottenham semi-final to Young's repeated diving offenses I reckon the referees need this weapon in their arsenal (no pun intended) in order to help the game more clearly. It will help determine those questionable calls on fouls, penalties and offsides, as well as allowing them to award or disallow goals as they should be. What do you think? Is it time to bring in the video ref?
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Absolutely it makes sense. FIFA have said that it would slow the game down as they it keeps being consulted, but in tennis you only get to request a replay a few times for that very reason. To offer teams the opportunity to ask for the occasional video replay to sort out the most obvious of problems is only fair and reasonable. The fact that they still oppose this after the ridiculous situation in the last world cup, where millions around the world saw England score, yet the referee being unable to award it because he didn't see it, is just ridiculous. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Too much money in the game for it not to be, people are loosing jobs thanks to bad calls. It's been too long coming.
Hell I think they should go further and adopt the NFL route, let the team challenge three ref calls a game, make the ref watch a replay on camera and decide if it was a fair call or not.
I admit I'm probably in a minority there.
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I don't see it slowing the game down though, It would only be used on penalties, which aren't that common, difficult to decide goals which are rare and possibly some offsides.
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Maybe they could work on the culture of players being cheating prima donnas (both on and off the field ) while they are at it.
Personally I've thought that there should be a 4th official in football for a while now (note - I don't watch or support or even really like football very much so don't have a vested interest either way; just think that every game should have the option video replay/4th official).
Ah, didn't read the link, I thought this was about the goal line tech that is coming in.
If this is someone saying a ref should be able to call for a video check if he's uncertain. I would be 100% in favour of it.
edit - there is a 4th official now Silver, he just doesn't do much other than have his ear bent by angry managers and hold up the subs board, extra mins to play at the end of each half etc.
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I think the only people who don't support video-refs are FIFA. Every footy fan seems to think it's a great idea, but still you get absolute knob-jobs like Blatter saying things like 'let's make the goal bigger' or 'female players should have more revealing costumes'. They're morons, that organisation.
The game wouldn't change much, the ref would still rely on his judgement, it'd just be another set of eyes, like an extra linesman. They could be linked up in real time via earpiece, in case the ref misses something. It's ridiculously simple.
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edit - there is a 4th official now Silver, he just doesn't do much other than have his ear bent by angry managers and hold up the subs board, extra mins to play at the end of each half etc.
Seriously, worst job in football. What do they do? What are they for?
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Aye, FIFA just doesn't like change period, if we can change that.. maybe we could change the structure of the organization away from the stagnant mess it is now.
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Perhaps someone here can help me clarify something. I don't watch Football, aka Soccer, and I wonder if the rumors are true. Is there a problem with referee's being bribed to favor teams? Do players fake injuries for advantage?
I've heard crazy things about stuff like that in football but I don't watch or follow it (or any sport for that matter) and wonder if they are true or false or somewhere in between.
LordofHats wrote:Perhaps someone here can help me clarify something. I don't watch Football, aka Soccer, and I wonder if the rumors are true. Is there a problem with referee's being bribed to favor teams? Do players fake injuries for advantage?
I've heard crazy things about stuff like that in football but I don't watch or follow it (or any sport for that matter) and wonder if they are true or false or somewhere in between.
Someone I worked with was from Spain and claimed that it was pretty common place for teams/officials to be paid off ahead of games (in Spain).
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Azza007 wrote:I don't see it slowing the game down though, It would only be used on penalties, which aren't that common, difficult to decide goals which are rare and possibly some offsides.
Modern technology means it takes literally seconds to find out if a ball was actually over the line or not. It wouldn't slow down at all, especially considering whenever anything controversial happens all the players start milling around and arguing anyway.
Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
LordofHats wrote:Perhaps someone here can help me clarify something. I don't watch Football, aka Soccer, and I wonder if the rumors are true. Is there a problem with referee's being bribed to favor teams? Do players fake injuries for advantage?
I've heard crazy things about stuff like that in football but I don't watch or follow it (or any sport for that matter) and wonder if they are true or false or somewhere in between.
That's not really the problem, even though it may be an issue in some rare cases.
The problem lies in the fact that there are only THREE referees on the field during a soccer game and they're each (unfortunately) not omnipresent. They can't see everything.
Video would lend a ton of objectivity to calls.
It works fine for most other sports out there.
Additionally, it may reduce the notorious soccer riots.
What football-related violence there still is in this country is very rarely related to events taking place on the pitch. I imagine it's pretty much the same everywhere.
Albatross wrote:What football-related violence there still is in this country is very rarely related to events taking place on the pitch. I imagine it's pretty much the same everywhere.
No-one comes out of a baseball game where 73 people died, mate. Not even Nascar, a sport full of drunken rednecks, has that level of death.
The only sport I can think of with death rates like soccer would be competitive sepuku.
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Australia has video referees for Rugby League, works very good. Any delay is minimal and it is easy to reach a consensus, both by the referees and the fans, on what really happened. In the heat of the moment, it is terribly easy to misread something by the on field referee, and the fans sitting at home.
Competitive sepuku sounds awesome.
As for the the violence of football, I hate to type cast but thye are know as football hooligans for a reason. I don't know why but I have seen more football violence than all other sports combined.
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It is soccer, not a real sport, so they are better off without it.
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2012/04/17 07:07:05
Subject: Re:Is it time for video tech in football?
I've always wondered why there aren't video replays. Surely with football being a sport with such a huge worldwide following, it couldn't harm anyone to introduce video replays? I doubt it's a financial issue, so I don't see what FIFA is waiting for. We've surely had enough contentious issues to warrant the introduction of video replays.
Albatross wrote:What football-related violence there still is in this country is very rarely related to events taking place on the pitch. I imagine it's pretty much the same everywhere.
No-one comes out of a baseball game where 73 people died, mate. Not even Nascar, a sport full of drunken rednecks, has that level of death.
The only sport I can think of with death rates like soccer would be competitive sepuku.
No, I'm not saying that football doesn't have a disproportionate amount of violence attached to its fandom - that's obviously the case. What I'm saying is that such violence is rarely motivated by events on the pitch. It's motivated by good old-fashioned tribal hatred. It's not like football hooligans go 'That ref must be blind to have disallowed that goal! Let's trash the place.' That certainly doesn't happen in the UK these days. It's more about defending your patch from invading fans from other towns and cities. They mostly organise meet-ups away from the ground to fight, inasmuch as it still happens. Football stadiums are very secure places now.
SilverMK2 wrote:Maybe they could work on the culture of players being cheating prima donnas (both on and off the field ) while they are at it.
This.
A thousand times this. This is probably the one thing that winds me up the most about football. That said, I have never really been into football. That's just the impression I get from the endless football talk in the office
The only time I ever watch football is when England play in the world cup - so I maybe watch 2 games every 4 years since we're so bloody useless
I'm in favour of this video evidencing though, a damn good case being made in the last world cup, where there was a definite goal, caught on camera, that was disallowed.
Would it help the omnipresent diving? As an American fan of ice hockey, I understand perfectly well the advantage of a call going your way now and then due to embellishment, but the fact that two soccer players can't so much as look at each other without both of them falling down, clutching their knees, and screaming like children ruins the game for me.
How much time would it really take to have one official in a booth to review: potential offsides on goals scored, and close-call goals (did the goalie hit it in front of the net or inside).
Yes without a fething doubt.
So many times the ref makes a bad call it makes GW's codexes look perfectly balanced.
Video tech is used in pretty much every pro-sport without too many / any hassle. Look at rugby and NFL as examples. It's not as if they'd suddenly have to have cameras added to the stadiums.
and I feel the most important use of it could be to stamp out diving completely. No other sport is blighted by fully grown men rolling around on the floor because somebody touched them. (And I'm a Man utd. fan!)
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