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Interesting addition. I continue to be underwhelmed by Kruleboyz for some reason. I want to like them or think of them as the old default Orcs, but I really don't care for the overall design.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
Interesting addition. I continue to be underwhelmed by Kruleboyz for some reason. I want to like them or think of them as the old default Orcs, but I really don't care for the overall design.

I like the look of that band more than the previous one. Flail one is my favourite model here.

I like the guy tooting his big horn, but the rest are a bit meh.
Overall I think the first Kruleboyz set was better.

Wasn't all that long ago they had a Kruleboyz warband, although at least these are the larger variety.

Okay...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/10/warhammer-underworlds-updates-spells-hordes-and-fancy-masks/

Seems kind of strange that they mention OOP warbands like the sepulchral guard.

“I would expect to see more varied warbands in the top spots from now on, but I am particularly interested in the Sepulchral Guard and Sanson’s Farstriders, whom I’m convinced people are sleeping on – mostly because neither warband held up to ping damage particularly well.”

Or maybe it’s because you cant find the models on eBay even at scalper prices

Sepulchral guard is not out of print they're currently in the starter set.

What is actually OOP is Sons of velmorn and Gnarlspirit pack who never see a separated or even cheaper 2 packs release.

One of the devs being a big fan of the Sepulchral Guard makes sense as to why they were put in the basic Two Players Starter box now.

Did we got a werewolf? Nice doggy, sit. The witch is cool too.

Zondara's Gravebreakers were previewed at LVO.

A female Necromancer/mage, a werewolf/beast, and three undead thralls.

Love this new warband and its mechanics. Can't wait to get a hold of them

callidusx3 wrote:
Love this new warband

Love is the force driving them (well, maybe not the zombies)

Greatly enjoy the visuals of that new warband. Don't have much to complain about with them at all.

Great chance to get old war bands

 GaroRobe wrote:
Great chance to get old war bands

Unless you only want just one of them.

Pretty frustrating to see your warbands get updated rules that are paywalled in a box with duplicates of the models tho.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Pretty frustrating to see your warbands get updated rules that are paywalled in a box with duplicates of the models tho.

These minis have been out of production for so long that owning these minis is more rare than owning them.

I really don't see the issue since almost nobody has been able to buy them for the last three years, and a majority of the players from the Shadespire and Nightvault era don't even play anymore.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this box other than Mollog being included versus Chosen Axes... those players are absolute diehards for such an awful warband.

Okay I will attempt to not feel frustrated that I can't get updated rules for my vintage models that were released 5 years ago unless I re-buy them, because something something water carrying.

I'm glad they are coming back though the only one I really want to pick up is Zarbag's gitz...and I guess maybe Mollog.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Okay I will attempt to not feel frustrated that I can't get updated rules for my vintage models that were released 5 years ago unless I re-buy them, because something something water carrying.

(Edited to be less snarky, my apologies.)

Cool, looks like this isn't a product for you then. GW labelled this as a product for a new player, and they even stated im the article that the old cards are playable in the Relic formats.

5 years is more than a generations of players for most hobby games, multiple players have entered and cycled out of playing due to losing interest in the hobby or other reasons.

You are in the tiny minority of players or collectors who have any of the products in that box, and an overwhelming majority of Underworlds players never had a chance to buy ANY of those warbands, hence why there is almost nothing but positivity in the Warhammer Underworlds Discord servers. Even those who have some of all of those warbands already are excited for this release because those and other warbands need lots of love to become playable in competitive events.

Doing these releases allows GW to ease off of making new warbands that are game altering (in a very bad way) like both of the Wyrdhollow starter set warbands.

While I understand the frustration of the updated cards not being available separately, there's always eBay. If you just want one deck, buy it from a box splitter. If you want all 4, buy the box and sell on the models. An annoying extra step, but one that most are used to by now.

Why not sell rules split from the minis?

For 4 years or something people were trying to find these miniatures from underworlds because GW sold them for a limited time.
So now they re-releasing them so people can buy the miniatures again with new cards.
And now the people that bought the minis 5 years ago have to hunt down the cards from people that just want the minis.
Surely you can see the irony in than...

 NAVARRO wrote:
Why not sell rules split from the minis?

EXALT +1!

I have every release for Warhammer Underworlds, except for a beginners set only released in the US because it was all exact copies of warbands I have..

I would like the option for just the cards, even if it was a one off limited run.
The option to not have to buy the minis again would be great.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
I'm glad they are coming back though the only one I really want to pick up is Zarbag's gitz...and I guess maybe Mollog.

If you're interested in splitting the box with another Canadian, I'd be down. I happen to want the Skaven... and I guess maybe the Wraithy people.

They've also been re-released in the partworks also I think.

I'm an Underworlds player that would like the cards and it's a bit frustrating - reason for that is I just play casually, with my partner. We use the rivals decks for the recent seasons, and for the older seasons someone had put together rivals equivalent decks that we use, but it would be nice to have better balanced ones. Not that Rivals is amazingly well balanced anyway though.

Will either look for the cards on Ebay, or buy the expansion and wait until it's out of print again and sell off the minis.

I think this is a reasonable method of re-releasing old Warbands, at least from seller's point of view. Instead of maintaining separate stocks of 4 Warbands and 4 sets of cards, GW only needs to take care of one product. I can see this flying off the shelves because some players want the miniatures, some want the cards and some want both. Veteran players having to buy duplicate miniatures is less of a headache than new or returning player trying to buy miniatures and cards separately when one is out of stock.

I have all the Warbands already but I don't mind duplicate miniatures. I had considered chopping up my painted Mollog's mob and Zarbag's kits to put on square bases for Old World, now I don't have to.

 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Why not sell rules split from the minis?

EXALT +1!

I have every release for Warhammer Underworlds, except for a beginners set only released in the US because it was all exact copies of warbands I have..

I would like the option for just the cards, even if it was a one off limited run.
The option to not have to buy the minis again would be great.

Ironically, I just want some of the models and don't care at all about the cards

deano2099 wrote:
They've also been re-released in the partworks also I think.

The Goblin and Troll ones are in Stormbringer and the ghost set was in Mortal Realms, but the Skaven one was never in one.

I'm also in the "Release the cards separately" camp as I already have the Skaven set and am getting two of the others in Stormbringer.

I would definitely cherry pick few Stormbringer magazines if it was available in my region.