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TOKYO — North Korea issued an ominous new threat Monday in its campaign against South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, vowing to carry out a special military attack that would reduce parts of Seoul to ash “in three or four minutes ... by unprecedented peculiar means and methods of our own style.”

The North’s state-run news agency said the “targets are the Lee Myung-bak group of traitors, the arch criminals, and the group of rat-like elements including conservative media destroying the mainstay of the fair public opinion.”

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The statement, attributed to a “special operation action group” of the Korean People's Army, provided no additional details about how the attack might be carried out. But analysts said the statement differed from Pyongyang’s usual calls for sacred war and fiery revenge — background noise on the peninsula — because it laid out the scenario of a specific, targeted military strike.

“I suppose their threat is very concrete,” said Park Hyeong-jung, a North Korea researcher at Seoul’s Korea Institute for National Unification. “They said they will do it very soon, and this is unusual.”

The North has spent years criticizing Lee, a conservative who ended the generous aid policies of his predecessors, but it has taken sharper aim in the last week. Thousands of Pyongyang residents and army members met Friday in Kim Il Sung Square, pledging during a rally to “wipe out” Lee and his allies.

The North also revised its state-run news agency Web site, creating a banner that cycles through anti-Lee messages such as “Let Us Cut Off Windpipes of the Lee Myung-bak-led Swarm of Rats!” Recent articles also have called him “human scum” and an “underwit with 2MB of knowledge.”

“It is, therefore, a tragedy and shame for the nation to see Lee still alive,” one story said.

In recent days, Lee has publicly estimated the price ($850 million) of the North’s failed rocket launch on April 13 and said the money could have been used for several million tons of corn. He also suggested that new leader Kim Jong Eun privatize the impoverished nation’s agricultural land to stoke the economy.

Experts in Seoul on Monday speculated that the North may be planning a cyberattack or another military provocation, similar to its island-shelling or its torpedoing of a warship in 2010. But Seoul’s Defense Ministry saw no immediate change in the North’s military movements, according to the Associated Press.

Government officials in Seoul also fear that the North is preparing for another underground nuclear test, citing excavation activity visible on recent satellite images.


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Meh...the sad thing about the whole NK/SK thing is, I don't really think that NK will ever turn from its crazy dictatorship ways on its own and it surely won't go to peace talks with SK for a harmonic reunion. That conflict will see more dead people before it's over...maybe it's better if it happens sooner than later, who knows.
   
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Its all talk, thats all it ever is. The north knows it can't win a war, but no one wants to fight them because then they'll have a massive humanitarian crisis to deal with...

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Exalted Pariah wrote:Its all talk, thats all it ever is. The north knows it has nukes, but no one wants to fight them because then they'll have a massive humanitarian crisis to deal with...

Corrected your typo.

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If they wanted to do this they could have just pointed their last rocket towards Seoul and when it fell out of the air instead of a "it failed" it could have been a "woohoo look what we did".

   
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Archaeo wrote:If they wanted to do this they could have just pointed their last rocket towards Seoul and when it fell out of the air instead of a "it failed" it could have been a "woohoo look what we did".



Well this is NK. They could have actually tried that and missed...badly.

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it would be very interesting if they did this... but i wouldn't hope for it

 
   
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a special military attack that would reduce parts of Seoul to ash “in three or four minutes ... by unprecedented peculiar means and methods of our own style.



You heard it here first, North Korea has created Godzilla, or some other gigantic city-burning monster that suspiciously resembles a man stomping around in a suit made of rubber.

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I honestly dont think they will follow through with this threat. They couldent win because they know the U.S. would get involved almost immediatley... Though it would be interesting as someone else said.

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Jumpin Jesus wrote:I honestly dont think they will follow through with this threat. They couldent win because they know the U.S. would get involved almost immediatley... Though it would be interesting as someone else said.

since when has NK ever followed through on any legit threat?

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Much like a cat that is threatened, the norks turn their body, breathe in, and have the hairs of their fur stand on end as they hiss and growl to try to scare away their enemies.

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@frazzeled, so they have nukes, very few in number and so weak in power the first test they did wasn't believed to be nuclear but just a bunch of regular bombs underground. They can't use them without having their "nation" being turned to glass, even without nukes, invading them wasn't an option because then the "state" collapses and you have millions of starving, impoverished refugees to deal with.

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We at least need to salvage the Starcraft 2 competitive scene from them before anything happens.

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Exalted Pariah wrote:@frazzeled, so they have nukes, very few in number and so weak in power the first test they did wasn't believed to be nuclear but just a bunch of regular bombs underground. They can't use them without having their "nation" being turned to glass, even without nukes, invading them wasn't an option because then the "state" collapses and you have millions of starving, impoverished refugees to deal with.


Millions of South koreans are within artillery distance of North Korea. They have a massive army of crazies ready to start the commie version of Ragnarok. Its coockoo.

PLus they've done weird stuff like blow up a destroyer (what last year?) shell South Korean towns (again what last year) and interesting things like send in commandoes to kill people and kidnap Japanese citizens-in Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens

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There are some fairly legitimate reasons to simply annihilate North Korea right now...

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purplefood wrote:There are some fairly legitimate reasons to simply annihilate North Korea right now...


The government perhaps, but the entire country?

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Another war in South East Asia? Looks like it's time to blast CCR from our helicopters and lay down some Hellfires!

God what a mess this will be if they do actually take action. Iran will take the opportunity to do whatever they need to do, and WWIII will be here faster than you can say "Nuclear Holocaust"


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purplefood wrote:There are some fairly legitimate reasons to simply annihilate North Korea right now...


The government perhaps, but the entire country?

Probably not.

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Samus_aran115 wrote:Another war in South East Asia? Looks like it's time to blast CCR from our helicopters and lay down some Hellfires!

God what a mess this will be if they do actually take action. Iran will take the opportunity to do whatever they need to do, and WWIII will be here faster than you can say "Nuclear Holocaust"


Or we can tell the world we're leaving Korea in two years. We'll just leave these big crates over... there (runs to cash multi billion dollar check).

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Nothing on BBC news. Clearly no one is taking this seriously.

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Samus_aran115 wrote:Another war in South East Asia? Looks like it's time to blast CCR from our helicopters and lay down some Hellfires!

God what a mess this will be if they do actually take action. Iran will take the opportunity to do whatever they need to do, and WWIII will be here faster than you can say "Nuclear Holocaust"

Just in case you were having trouble finding it on a map. Korea is nowhere near South East Asia.

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Exalted Pariah wrote:@frazzeled, so they have nukes, very few in number and so weak in power the first test they did wasn't believed to be nuclear but just a bunch of regular bombs underground. They can't use them without having their "nation" being turned to glass, even without nukes, invading them wasn't an option because then the "state" collapses and you have millions of starving, impoverished refugees to deal with.


Just out of curiosity, who do you think would use nukes against North Korea, even if they did manage to pop one in South Korea?

South Korea? I don't think they have their own.

Japan? Same as South Korea.

The US? I honestly don't think under Pres Obama we would for a few reasons. He really dislikes nukes and would unilaterally disarm if he could. If he authorizes their use he sets back his goal of ridding the world of nukes forever. I think China would STRONGLY advise us not to pop a nuke close to their territory. Check out a map of NK. Frankly there are not a lot of good 'nuke' targets except the city of Pyongyang. And even though there are several legit military targets with in it, I don't think Obama authorizes a nuke on that city. Most other targets in NK are either burried so deep you would need a series of strikes it ensure their destruction, or they are not nuke worthy.

As for the millions of starving Norks, the South has funds set up and plans to deal with an eventual reunification. They studied the German reunionification extensively and know how much worse off the Norks are than East Germany was. They are not ready, and may never be, but it is not like they are going into it blind and without some forethought. Remember, China too has a vested interest in keeping the Norks fed to keep a crap ton of refugees from heading into China when the Norks finally lose control of their country.


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I'm not sure about ROK but Japan could have nuclear weapons realistically in weeks, maybe even measured in days if they have done background studies and designs as contingencies. They embraced nuclear power like no other nation and actively chose not to weaponize due to our nuclear umbrella. Recent military changes in Japan lead me to believe that of push came to shove Japan would probably reveal having a nuclear capability no one has seriously considered.

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And they would risk becoming political pariahs for the sake of South Korea?


Nope, don't see it happening.

(remember, the Korean people, North and South have no real love for the Japanese, and it goes both ways)

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Pfft. No way. If push came shove they'd probably nuke both of them. I don't think the Japanese would piss on either Korea if they were on fire, but if nuclear attack threatened by PRK I doubt they'd prevaricate very much before irradiating them.

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North Korea issued an ominous new threat Monday in its campaign against South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, vowing to carry out a special military attack that would reduce parts of Seoul to ash “in three or four minutes ... by unprecedented peculiar means and methods of our own style.”


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