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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 00:27:24
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I know these threads have appeared before, however this one is vastly different.
First, take a look at these links:
http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=93&page=2
http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=74&Gallery=Crystal%20Blue:%20Space%20Marine&page=1
http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=42&Gallery=Space%20Wolf%20Squad&page=1
Take note of three things:
1) the DA Dreadnought in the first link, in the pictures marked "Assemble Sprayed Bits".
2) the Space Marine in the second link, in the picture marked "Step 1".
3) the Space Wolf in the third link, in the picture marked "1. Spray".
Having now seen what I'm referring to, would anyone here have any objections to playng against such models?
I'm considering doing such a thing for any and all future 40k armies I may/may not collect. I just don't have the enthusiasm for painting as I once did, however I still very much like playing the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 00:38:56
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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If you have to ask you know the answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:04:41
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Lurking Gaunt
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NeoAigaion wrote:
Having now seen what I'm referring to, would anyone here have any objections to playng against such models?
I'm considering doing such a thing for any and all future 40k armies I may/may not collect. I just don't have the enthusiasm for painting as I once did, however I still very much like playing the game. 
Personally I wouldn't mind at all, if you've lost the enthusiasm for painting then I give you kudos for coming up with ways to have at least some sort of painting style to your army....
I know certain people who would just run them as grey plastic
Explosivo111
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:09:01
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Most of the armies I play against are grey plastic. It would be a relief to me to see more that were even just primed, much less painted with more than one color.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:21:54
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A lot of gaming clubs I have been involved with have had a rule of at least 3 colours to count as a completed model.
Those pictures for my mind fill that easily. I don't actually mind utilising the grey plastic on the space wolf either, especially if motivation is absent.
I personally prefer my opponents to have at least made some effort to add colour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:26:33
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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If you were a regular at my club events, I'd wouldn't say a thing for about 4 months. After 8 months I'd start hinting at getting some paint on them... Maybe a year later I'd directly tell you they really should have three color paint on them by now.
If you ignored me, I'd drop it and let you do as you please. It's still better than gray plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:28:10
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Minnesota
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Ailaros wrote:Most of the armies I play against are grey plastic. It would be a relief to me to see more that were even just primed, much less painted with more than one color.
This
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:37:27
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
California
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Frankly, I would play against any army, no matter the paint job.
-Wolf Guard 252
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:49:09
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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the army painter tutorial stuff looks better than 80% of the minis i see.
its smooth, and they apply paint where it needs to go. two things that most people struggle with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 01:54:09
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Fixture of Dakka
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If you gonna prime each part as in step 1. It literally would take less than 30 seconds per model to dot the eyes and brush some bolt gun metal on the metal bitz. Washing is also amazingly quick and do wonders with those sprays.
But I do feel base coating each part in different colors (like pads and gun) shows significant effort and is nice as as time permits or if you get motivated can be easily upgraded in appearance.
As for playing... If the standard is no standard, no one will care. If it is 3colors and based, you sure got 3 colors with those marine examples. Tidy up the base with straight green and you would probably be in good shape. Many tourney players use a very simple airbrush pattern and are legal .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 02:32:34
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Considering those basecoated models look better than my completed ones, yes, I would play you no questions asked. I'd probably end up apologizing for my crummy guardsmen and ask you for tips
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 02:37:35
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I have no problem playing against primed/basecoat models. If I only would play against painted armies, I would most likely only play a 1/3 of the armies I see on a regular basis.
On a side note, after painting an IG army (4,000 points), and now 2,500 points of Orks, I doubt I will paint my High Elves at all. I have the main pieces of that army painted, but, I just don't see me painting them for a while.
Right now I have 7 Malifaux minis to paint, and, that will be enough for a long while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:15:49
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Scuttling Genestealer
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The dreadnought looks fine as-is, and my army is pretty much just base-coated, with a wash over, and it's never been an issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:26:54
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks for the positive replies. I have been thinking about doing a similar thing with the Necrons, using various Army Painter primers.
- Warriors could pass as being all metal (Platemail). Same goes for Scarab Swarms.
- Vehicles would be Angel Green, with certain parts Matt Black and/or Platemail.
- Deathmarks would have Matt Black heads, but otherwise be Platemail.
- Crypteks would have different colours depending on their discipline.
- Flayed Ones could be sprayed in Pure Red or Skeleton Bone, or a combination of the two.
Just things like that. Sound any good?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:31:23
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I would play against unpainted armies, so yeah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:35:07
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I would battle any army.
But there was this one time i played against an ork player, he had 3000 pts worth of orks and all of it was unpainted.
Kinda suckish =( although, you get more money from minies if you dont buy paint haha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:45:01
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Helpful Sophotect
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In my area, I'm one of the only players whose army (ies) are NOT fully painted, so I've never had to consider this issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:48:39
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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For me my 1st goal is to prime everything before I battle with them unless I got them the same day I field them or I'm still putting them together like with green stuff. (If I just assembled them or added a loin clothe I'm not going to care)
My second goal is painting a bit at least every few days like a single shoulder pad on 10 models. About 90% of my models are primed, and 50% are painted on with at least one splotch of color.
I don't care at all how painted they are though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 04:42:47
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I wouldn't love it, and I would probably do some friendly ribbing towards you to get your stuff painted. I wouldn't mind though, I just like playing against fully painted armies more than half-painted armies. Better than the hordes of black primer/grey plastic we all run into though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 05:26:16
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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This is a false question. The models shown have been painted. The fact it was done by spraying before assembly does not make it primer/basecoat only.
If you spray your models in three or more colours, assemble, and Quickshade them, you have a painted army. An easy extra step would be to paint in a couple of details such as the eyes.
I wouldn't chose black as the main colour if I wanted to use Quickshade. A dark grey would work much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 05:41:44
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Kilkrazy wrote:This is a false question. The models shown have been painted. The fact it was done by spraying before assembly does not make it primer/basecoat only.
100% this.
Those "Primed" models look good on the tabletop, I would have no issue playing you.
Though one of my regular opponents uses a ball of plastic on a base for one of his Tyranid MC's so I don't have an issue with much of anything.
If you are into the painting side of things and spend an hour per model to make things look how you want them to, good for you.
If you, like myself, have painted over 500 infantry and just do the bare minimum 15 pieces of flair, then so be it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 06:11:18
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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yes i would, i have, and i have made some friends who play with unpainted models/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 06:17:35
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you didnt tell anyone thats how you painted your models, I dont think anyone would take a 2nd glance.
Tournaments require 3 colors, which the army has. It looks good, and nobody will care or even notice how you painted them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 16:57:38
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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I don't see this as any different than brushing on base colors with no shading or highlighting. Those minis are perfectly acceptable in play so yours should be too. With my busy schedule I often have to choose between painting and playing when I have free time and playing almost always takes precedence. If someone refuses to play someone with unpainted minis then they are free to go and play someone else. Their elitist attitudes aren't going to get in my way of enjoying the hobby.
If someone gives you grief about your models being painted this way feel free to find someone else to play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 16:59:23
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I'm amazed at how many people do not play with painted models at all. 95% of the models I play with and against are painted, though they may also be (sometimes army-wide) proxied.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 17:23:43
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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We buy and build and play. Paint when we have time. As long as you're having fun then paint is a mook point. I guess if you go out and buy a new chess set you're not gonna sit and paint the pieces before you play with it, just a game same as our beloved 40k. Game 1st, impress 2nd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 17:45:38
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I take the time to paint my army and at least base them before I play so I expect the same standard in return.
I would play against an army like that. I just refuse to play against grey plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 17:53:46
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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dude, your asking a man who uses ponies as SM bikers if base coated only models are OK XD
the answer is yes and anyone who says no is a jackass who takes his man toys too seriously
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 18:10:12
Subject: Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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What has happened to the usual "You are playing the game wrong/It is so disrespectful to your opponent that you might as well kick his grand-mother"-crowd?
They are usually high and mighty, and dictating from the ivory towers, by this stage of a thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 18:17:20
Subject: Re:Would you play against primed/basecoated models?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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That ultramarine looks good. Nothing wrong with "dipping"
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