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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 09:15:10
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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each and every fight causes the loss of precious, unique weapons and other equipement. will they ever run dry or is there a source of replacement.
what do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 09:17:34
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Adeptus Mechanicus?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 09:21:39
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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If it's Relics of the Chapter they might try and recover it after or during the battle. With stuff like that though once it's gone, it's gone and replaced with a newer less Relic - y version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 09:49:14
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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If it's just a bolt pistol or whatever, the AdMech just make a new one. They'll probably fight to retrieve a relic though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 11:49:46
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Leader of the Sept
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Chapters are self-sufficient for most stuff. The Chapter forges can create whatever they need, except maybe some of the fancier power armour systems and larger vehicles. Replacements for these would be sourced from the Adeptus Mechanicus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 17:25:06
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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All chapter have excess of everything, so replacing is easy.
What can be salvage will be.
In the first blood angel, Arkiros ( I think thats what his name) has his armor nearly destroy. Being far away from Baal, they canibalise the armor of one of his dead brothers to fix his own and notes the various prayers that his decease friends wrote.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 18:25:20
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Flinty wrote:Chapters are self-sufficient for most stuff. The Chapter forges can create whatever they need, except maybe some of the fancier power armour systems and larger vehicles. Replacements for these would be sourced from the Adeptus Mechanicus.
thinking of crusading chapters this will be more difficult.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 20:53:29
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Some chapters are self-sufficient having their own forges and refineries.
Other chapters have forgeships and some kind of mining operations concerning asteroids.
Other chapters rely heavily on the Mechnicus for their arms and armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 21:08:31
Subject: Re:lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Either the Fortress Monestary will have manufacturing capabilities, they will get stuff from a nearby Forge World, or the chapter will have a Forge Ship. Or maybe a combination of all 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 21:47:36
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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The Salamanders are the most well known craftsmen in the galaxy. They make pretty much everything themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 21:53:24
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Storm Guard
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I would assume they would know how to make a bolter and power armor. Plasma weapons and assorted advanced weapons may be a little more tricky to replace...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 21:58:36
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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No I believe they are some of the best and can craft more tricky pieces of equipment.
I read one of the samples on Black Library and the one Salamander made his own Heavy flamer. It exploded as the planet had flammable vapor that they did not know about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 23:00:39
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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They've got schematics for some things, if something really cool is lost (one of the Heavenfall Blades, for instance) I could see a Chapter launching a mission to recover it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/03 23:54:37
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Of course, if they can't locate a relic near the battlefield, they could just call up the Blood Ravens and ask if it found its way into their armory....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 00:20:39
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Chapter Forges can produce most of the stuff the Space Marines use, from Bolters to Power Armor to Rhinos/Predators. More advanced systems like Thunderhawks, Drop-Pods, and especially warships are likely bought from the Mechanicus though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:20:24
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Terminators, dreadnoughts and relics are probably the only things that are very hard to replace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:27:55
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Drone without a Controller
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Gargantuan wrote:Terminators, dreadnoughts and relics are probably the only things that are very hard to replace.
Dreadnoughts and relics yeah for every chapter they would be hard to replace.
Terminator armor, however, wouldn't be hard for some chapters ( i.e. DA and GK ) as they have a huge stockpile of it if my memory serves me right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:39:39
Subject: Re:lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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TDA can be made new, but its obviously expensive and so its easier to maintain existing suits then build a new one.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 00:29:51
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I figure, generally, chapters maintain and build their own stuff, which is why some chapters (like the Invaders) have tons of vehicles, while other chapters don't have as many vehicles but have more master crafted weapons, or some chapters have huge stockpiles of Terminator Armor, while some chapters (typically newer ones) have very little.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 06:21:47
Subject: Re:lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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That is what forgemasters and techmarines are for, they don't only keep stuff working they salvage and create new ones, also the newest model of plasma pistol the Sunfury III is crafted by space marines, I think the Nova Marines, not sure though, so even plasma weapons aren't that hard to replace. Stuff from the crusade era is however - things like dreadnought sarcophagy (probably spelled it wrong) and master crafted weapons such as thunder hammers are relics and very difficult to craft.
Its the same with some vehicles, IIRC IG use to have land speeders too, but lacking the SM resources and influence they could not reproduce them.
Most SM ware armor pieces from different MARK variants of the power armor (most notably different helmets like the beakie and shoulder guards) and there is a new armor variant the MARK VIII (or VII again not sure) that some of them now craft, it covers the cables at the stomach area and haves a neck guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/11 06:26:56
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Well first of all relic weapons are very hard to replace so most space marine chapters/imperial guard will scavenge after the battle but because the template construct of plasma weapons was lost during the horus heresy the space marines/imperial guard scavenge mostly for those and relic weapons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/11 10:01:56
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
New York City
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Every piece of valuable armor or weapon that is lost, Astartes would go through painful lengths to recover. Even if it is destroyed. Armor and weapons can be re-smelted or reforged into new pieces, with a forge master putting all his dedication, will, and experience behind the work to make the instruments of war as good or better than they used to be. Relics earned their status by an Astartes spilled blood, the experience of the handler ingrained into the memory of the weapon. That my friend, can't be replaced with something built by factories and machines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/13 01:07:32
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
Eye of Terror
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Well i remember in one of the books i read there was a chapter called marines malevolent or something? And they robbed mechanicus ships? But were loyal to the emperor, how can that be?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/13 01:26:51
Subject: lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Screeching Screamer of Tzeentch
Negotiating deals on New Badab
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Marines Malevolent are loyal but they believe themselves better than all of their allies and thus consider their allies' sacrifices for the MM*'s benefit to be perfectly fine. Hence they are loyal. *Marines Malevolent, not Multi Melta as the forum is highlighting it to be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/13 01:32:08
Subject: Re:lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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In the Legion of the Damned book they are on a campaign to retrieve their standard, so I Imagine with a relic or something they would, as stated before, scourge the battle field and even raid enemy ships to try to find it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/13 01:44:36
Subject: Re:lost Space Marine equipement. how do they ever replace their gear?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yori wrote:That is what forgemasters and techmarines are for, they don't only keep stuff working they salvage and create new ones, also the newest model of plasma pistol the Sunfury III is crafted by space marines, I think the Nova Marines, not sure though, so even plasma weapons aren't that hard to replace. Stuff from the crusade era is however - things like dreadnought sarcophagy (probably spelled it wrong) and master crafted weapons such as thunder hammers are relics and very difficult to craft.
Its the same with some vehicles, IIRC IG use to have land speeders too, but lacking the SM resources and influence they could not reproduce them.
Most SM ware armor pieces from different MARK variants of the power armor (most notably different helmets like the beakie and shoulder guards) and there is a new armor variant the MARK VIII (or VII again not sure) that some of them now craft, it covers the cables at the stomach area and haves a neck guard.
Mark VIII are in mass production. Everytime a new mark is created. All the chapters break in and buy as much as they can. Because they just add all the improvements to their older armor types. They are more common than any of the other marks now. Power armor is less expensive and can be bought in the hundreds. Though that is for Mark VIII
The older marks are harder to build and replicate.
Land Raiders for instance are not mass produced because they take a long time to produce because of the 'steels' and processes used.
Land Speeders take 0 time to build, they are very much like rhinos, they are probably the more seen vechile the space marine armory.
Power weapons are hand-me downs. They can still be manfactured, it is just it takes skill to produce one. Brand new Power weapons are extremely hard to find. Except if your the Iron Hands, or the Salamanders, you could just build one just for fun.
Dreadnought Sarcophagy. Are just.... I don't know, extremely difficult to build? Or the fact that they only fit a certain type of dreadnought shell.
Thunderhammers are extremely difficult to produce.
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