Genestealer! Game 2 - Lost in Space [Game Over - Genestealers achieve victory]

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**Lord-Loss**

Airman, wanted to 'get rid of the evidence' aka the captains body.

When someone voted against him, he voteD against them.

He's barely posted and when he does, it makes him more suspicous.

I think we should be more worried about people who dont talk to each other. For example: Drk_Oblit8er and Airman, then have barely said a word to each other.

**Gornall**

OOC: Anyone have a vote count? I've lost track.

**Valhallan42nd**

OOC: As have I.

unvote Drk_Obliter8r
VOTE: Airman

I pondered for a while, and bent my head in prayer. I think my instincts were right about Airman. I think Drk_oblit is too obvious.

**Gornall**

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[conclusion] Subject Oblitr8r - I know you to be one of the guilty.

How are you so certain, you overgrown tin can? You have set your sights on him from the beginning and haven't entertained the possibility of anyone else being guilty, besides your "I'll vote for LoG since everyone else is" vote.

While I agree that DarkO is suspicious, I would ask that the people voting for him please explain how they interpret the events of the first day where he almost offed himself. That is my biggest sticking point right now, as I think he walked too close to the edge of death to be a genestealer. However, unlike the garbage disposal here, I'm FAR from set in my thoughts. If someone can provide a plausible explanation, I would not be opposed to voting for DarkO. Until then, I think other suspects are more likely.

**Valhallan42nd**

It could be taken in two ways:

A desperate plea, or a desperate ploy.

Either way, it worked.

**Manchu**

He didn't actually nearly do himself in at all, as he could have easily known at the time. The vote count was wrong and it was a perfect chance to play the martyr. LotG wasn't off the hook while this was going on, either. There were already a couple of votes against him because--as Frenzied points out--Orkeosaurus was whipping up opinion against him. Once it became clear that Drk_O's brush with death was totally fake, Drk_O changed his vote to LotG, leading the renewed charge on the poor psyker. Meanwhile, Orkeosaurus declared that Drk_O was the least suspicious because it was somehow unlikely that he knew the count was wrong and fruthermore that he took a long time (OOC: about 40min) to change his vote.

In reviewing this matter, I think you Gornall may have a piece of evidence in your favor. You could have easily switched your vote to Drk_O in that interval and done him in for good. But you didn't. Then again, it might also be that you and Drk_O are both genestealers and that's why you didn't change your vote and also why you're defending him now. I tend to think that unlikely, however. Drk_O's biggest defender has been Orkeosaurus, afer all.

**Thor665**

Ye Seventh Vote Accounting
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0 - Vote BrotherStynier
0 - Vote Frenzied Potato
1 - Vote Manchu (Frenzied Potato)
0 - Vote Orkeosaurus
0 - Vote Valhallan42nd
3 - Vote Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar!)
0 - Vote Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Vote Gwar!
0 - Vote Demogerg
0 - Vote Lord-Loss
0 - Vote Gornall
3 - Vote airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd)
0 - Vote Ultrafool

2 - Vote No Lynch (airman, Drk_Oblitr8r)

4 - Not Voting (Gornall, Ultrafool, Orkeosaurus, Demogerg)

With 13 alive it requires 7 to Lynch
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**Gornall**

You're right in that I could have voted to end him. However, I was more concerned with DLS and LoG, as when the votes had started mounting against LoG, DLS quickly offered up DarkO as a suspect. At the time, that struck me as rather odd, almost as if DLS was trying to protect LoG. That reasoning proved to be erroneous as LoG was actually an ally, however. So maybe I was duped by DarkO's show of faith...

**Manchu**

I have to say, a "no lynch" vote seems suspicious on its face. Being undecided is one thing, but deciding to do nothing is quite another. Notice that the two voting "no lynch" both have three votes against them.

**Valhallan42nd**

Airman, Drk_Oblit,

Voting for a no-lynch scenario does neither of you any good.

Gornall, Demogerg, Orkesaurus, and Ultrafool:

If we don't find the traitors during this day cycle, we are at a severe disadvantage. I'm not suggesting jumping on one or another band wagon, but if you have theories, we'd all like to hear them.

**Valhallan42nd**

I see Manchu has come to a similar conclusion before I did.

**Lord-Loss**

Im not sure about Drk_Oblit, maybe he just took Stumpy's advice and became a man?

**Dark Lord Seanron**

[explanation] Subject Gornall, I have explained already why I maintain my suspicions of Olitr8r, although it would not surprise me that you weren't listening. Indeed, everything I seem to say is pounced upon by yourself as some kind of heretical monstrous ploy.

Your suspicions of LoG and his subsequent death were a hard lesson, and maybe you should learn it quick insted of showing yourself to be a small-minded, biased simpleton.

I have pointed out why I suspect Oblitr8r several times, and I will remain on that path until our investigations point otherwise. I will not reiterate myself for the slow-learning, I have seen 31st cogitators that compute faster than yourself...

[conclusion] my vote stands, and no amount of small-mindedness or bullying on your part will change that!

**Gornall**

Valhallan42nd wrote:Airman, Drk_Oblit,

Voting for a no-lynch scenario does neither of you any good.

Gornall, Demogerg, Orkesaurus, and Ultrafool:

If we don't find the traitors during this day cycle, we are at a severe disadvantage. I'm not suggesting jumping on one or another band wagon, but if you have theories, we'd all like to hear them.

I see no need to rush into a decision just yet. The more we talk and communicate today, the more patterns will emerge that will help us tomorrow. If I am not convinced of anyone's guilt before the hour becomes late, then I will simply vote with the majority to make sure inaction does not doom us. Until that point, however, I think it best that we look at all possibilities. I say we discuss each person individually.

For example, I could potentially be a Xenos, as I voted for LoG rather than DarkO yesterday. You could infer that I'm trying to protect DarkO because we are both heretics. This is not the case, but I feel it best to confront any suspicions head-on. What other things make me seem suspicious?

After piling up allegations against me, we would then move on to the next person, explaining why they could potentially be Xenos scum. By doing this for everyone, we force people to express their logic, and those without strong logic are possibly the ones trying to play us off of each other.

**Lord-Loss**

Why I might be suspicous:

I switched my vote from Drk_Oblit to LOG

Reason why: I thought that he was a rogue pyker, he was also distracting us from the real threat with his suspicous posts.

**Gornall**

Dark Lord Seanron wrote:[explanation] Subject Gornall, I have explained already why I maintain my suspicions of Olitr8r, although it would not surprise me that you weren't listening. Indeed, everything I seem to say is pounced upon by yourself as some kind of heretical monstrous ploy.

Your suspicions of LoG and his subsequent death were a hard lesson, and maybe you should learn it quick insted of showing yourself to be a small-minded, biased simpleton.

I have pointed out why I suspect Oblitr8r several times, and I will remain on that path until our investigations point otherwise. I will not reiterate myself for the slow-learning, I have seen 31st cogitators that compute faster than yourself...

[conclusion] my vote stands, and no amount of small-mindedness or bullying on your part will change that!

::Glares at DLS:: You seem more like a dog gnawing on a bone than a logical machine. You set your sight on a target and have not even considered other possibilities. LoG's death imparted on me the importance of looking at this from every angle and not simply settling on the first theory that makes sense and following it to its logical conclusion. To me, I think you are making the same mistake I did yesterday in focusing on one individual and not looking at ALL the evidence. My mistake helped doom LoG... I don't want to see you repeat it with another. However, I guess I should have known that a rusty machine would not feel pain or guilt at the loss of an Emperor-fearing man at our own hands.

**Gornall**

Lord-Loss wrote:Why I might be suspicous:

I switched my vote from Drk_Oblit to LOG

Reason why: I thought that he was a rogue pyker, he was also distracting us from the real threat with his suspicous posts.

We will get to you soon enough... To keep things clear and avoid confusion, lets have everyone air their suspicions about one person at a time. Lord-Loss, what doubts do you have about me?

**Lord-Loss**

None about you, apart from you seem to hate tin cans.

**Gornall**

OOC:: If hating tin cans is wrong... then I don't wanna be right!

**Valhallan42nd**

I don't know about suspicious, but "off-putting" could certainly be used to describe our friend from Mars.

**Demogerg**

I will follow the advice given above and present my current opinions on a one-by-one basis.

BrotherStynier nothing particularly suspicious.

Frenzied Potato nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Manchu (Frenzied Potato currently voting for) nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Orkeosaurus nothing particularly suspicious.

Valhallan42nd nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

Drk_Oblitr8r (Manchu, Dark Lord Seanron, Gwar! currently voting for) Very suspect, he may have kept an accurate count of votes for himself, and as a gamble it seems to have paid off. Is also voting for no lynch, which is against us all.

Dark Lord Seanron Very suspect, hiding behind a shroud of the Mechanicus and the Omnissah is a clever rouse to keep us away from a potential genestealer sympathizer.

Gwar! nothing particularly suspicious.

Demogerg is not a genestealer

Lord-Loss suspect. seems to flip around a bit in his opinions, I cannot tell what he is fearing, the genestealers, or the wrath of the Emperor.

Gornall nothing particularly suspicious, however his logic seems sound.

airman (BrotherStynier, Lord-Loss, Valhallan42nd currently voting for) Very suspect, I cannot pin my finger on it, but the logic presented in voting patterns put him high on my list of suspects. voting for no lynch does not help his case.

Ultrafool nothing particularly suspicious.

**Demogerg**

EDIT* double post

**Demogerg**

My experience with these scum tells me that their opinions about everyone will change on a whim, with the only real logic behind it being their own survival.
(OOC): when i was a genestealer last game, I had to work the town against itself, which means my "opinion" about people would change depending on who posted what about whom, If we can get everyones "concrete" opinions out in the open, then trying to adjust their opinion wildly on the fly will be harder to justify, and help to expose the Genestealers
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**Manchu**

(OOC) that was some suspicious OOC, demo!

**Demogerg**

Manchu wrote:(OOC) that was some suspicious OOC, demo!

OOC: I no rite?

**Lord-Loss**

Im keeping my eye on Drk_Oblit, but airman seems to be more of a threat In my eyes.

Demogerg, I fear that we will never reach Terra. I fear that I shall die in this metal shell, my bones scatted through space.

**Demogerg**

Lord-Loss wrote:Im keeping my eye on Drk_Oblit, but airman seems to be more of a threat In my eyes.

Demogerg, I fear that we will never reach Terra. I fear that I shall die in this metal shell, my bones scatted through space.

This response to my opinion does not even answer the rhetorical question posed in my opinion.

"we" as in us humans? or you genestealers? Fearing death is something best left for the Xenos. Humans have nothing to fear from death, if it is our one duty it is to die for the Emperor, then so be it.

**Manchu**

Certainly--but to die grappling with His enemies, to bring His wrath! What ignominy to die cowering before them . . .

OOC: 1500th Post! For the Emperor!!!

**Valhallan42nd**

OOC: Nevermind...

**Lord-Loss**

'We' as in humans.

I have no fear of dieing on Terra or any other planet, but I fear dieing in this metal tub.

If I die, I shall never fulfill the quest that The Holy Emperor sent me.