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Nope, shaved off another 4.5 millimeters still too bulky.


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Here's your bump (Get this annoyance fixed please.)

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Wow that is annoying......

The new update supposedly fixes that, though it may take a while to initiate.

Nice to see things moving up in the world, literally!


I've always wondered if tub surround material would be a good sustitute for plasticard....

logg_frogg wrote:.............I've always wondered if tub surround material would be a good sustitute for plasticard....

Interesting question; I've found I waste a lot of time trying to get different kinds of plastics to adhere to each other. What is saved in cost is lost in inconvenience not to mention the horror of the surface material unbonding from the substrate over the course of time. That's why I'm making this model strictly of styrene. but I do need to order the sheets in bulk. I just have to calculate the savings first.

Well I did cut the upper legs down again another 4MM all around. I installed the skin (AGAIN) and am working on the detail.

I made a couple of jigs to facilitate the assembly first a cutting jig so the zipper-like trim is homogeneous and equally spaced.

And a small aligning jig so the truncated pieces are aligned with their opposite number.

DS has 9 sets up the back of the leg but I got ten with approximately the same spacing so either his are larger or his legs are shorter or he isn't as anal about the spacing

Yeah I guess having to worry about delamination and what glue type to use would kill a lot of time better spent building!

What do you use for glue anyhow?

Nice to see some more detail work starting!

The warlord is looking great black! Keep it up man!

Interesting question; I've found I waste a lot of time trying to get different kinds of plastics to adhere to each other. What is saved in cost is lost in inconvenience not to mention the horror of the surface material unbonding from the substrate over the course of time. That's why I'm making this model strictly of styrene. but I do need to order the sheets in bulk. I just have to calculate the savings first.

that good mister blackadder is a statement i can wholeheartly underline ! i have found so many interesting shaped pieces of junk i always wanted to use... yet oh so often the glue and the joints ruined my work...better to everything from scatch and have a certain kind of security and stability in your build!

logg_frogg wrote:...............

What do you use for glue anyhow?

I use Ambroid ProWeld when I can get it. I keep it in a Tamiya bottle because it's less prone to tipping and the fine tipped brush wastes a lot less solvent (Its really not a glue so much as a plastic melter.)

For really large surfaces I use Testors red or blue tubed styrene cement. I see little difference between the two other than the toxicity of the red but I've never ben afacked bi iet myslef.


Hmmm.......... I seem to have experienced a flurry of activity this weekend completing the basic upper leg structure and adding a bit of detail.

Time to take stock and see where I've gone wrong.

One step forward and two steps back seems to be my mantra.....................

wow Black, that small amount of detail adds to it massively, you should be patting yourself on the back rather than putting yourself down!!!

What may I ask do you see wrong with it?

What is wrong is I was at this point last week, seven days ago and I couldn't accept the front to back size of the upper leg.

I knew it was unacceptably wrong but it took me a lot of mental anguish to decide to cut the upper leg down a further 8MM; 4 from the back, around the hip radius and 4 from the front plus re-lengthening the lower legs 12.5MM so instead of presenting this as it is last Monday so I lost a week during the rebuilding and am showing it today as it should have been a week ago.

Speaking of massive the hip unit even without the external side trim tips the scale at 5.5 ounces and each leg unit masses 19.05 ounces. Thats a lot of plastic!

My brother does a lot of scratchbuilding with styrene and swears by methyl ethyl ketone(aka MEK or Butanone) as a cement. He says it joins the plastic better than any other plastic cement he's ever tried, and you can get it dirt cheap from a hardware store.

I can understand a little more now Black, well with your patience and skills the warlord will be astounding when its finished!!!


Kage, MEK Is a highly noxious substance iirc, which is not good for working with a lot of the time.

Just about any kind of plastic cement has noxious fumes.

Brother Chaplain Kage wrote:Just about any kind of plastic cement has noxious fumes.

Yeah but not all of them causes cancer in Californians.

Must be the chemical reaction with the cannabis.

It was just a suggestion, and I figured you a big enough boy to use such things in a well ventilated area.

Lols Black!!!


Kage don't get me wrong, its good stuff, just not advisable without a noxious fumes mask.

It's not a chemical weapon. The MSDS doesn't suggest a hazmat suit, but wtf-ever. I'm done here.

I wasn't putting you down Kage, I was merely saying that anything that gives off fumes requires a fume mask.

I deal with liquid latex a lot, which requires me to wear a Fume mask, and Resin as well which requires a dust mask. tis general safety measures tbh. thats all I was getting at.

The_Blackadder wrote:

Brother Chaplain Kage wrote:Just about any kind of plastic cement has noxious fumes.

Yeah but not all of them causes cancer in Californians.

Must be the chemical reaction with the cannabis.

Brother Chaplain Kage wrote:It was just a suggestion, and I figured you a big enough boy to use such things in a well ventilated area.

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I wasn't putting you down Kage, I was merely saying that anything that gives off fumes requires a fume mask.

I deal with liquid latex a lot, which requires me to wear a Fume mask, and Resin as well which requires a dust mask. tis general safety measures tbh. thats all I was getting at.

Black, LOLZ....

Kage, lighten up, we appreciate input here, but not at the expense of the sense of commuinity or congeniality.....

AUC, I need a resin and fume mask. What would you suggest....


Black, stop beating yourself up. They look fantastic and would have looked fantastic if you continued forward from last weeks point. We know you are really into the details and proper proportions and all and those things are imprortant, but aesthetics is a major portion of it too and you got that in spades.......

This is the one I use Max:

http://www.arco.co.uk/products/1F0100

It has the ability to have interchangable filters on it, plus with the type of filters it uses they can stack up so you can have a dust and a noxious fumes filter on at the same time. which is a godsend lols. (plus i'm possitive you'll be able to pick this up from the states, but if not, 3M do a similar one)

the only downside is you can't smell if you've set something on fire by accident at all lols...

Thanks AUC....

Anytime dude! ^_^

How long til we start seeing hips, Black?

mxwllmdr wrote:How long til we start seeing hips, Black?

Try working with out your mask.............

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See BCK, no mercy...........

Lol, your a bad man Black

JB weld might be an idea on the really big bits, it takes 48 hours to fully cure though and is as permanent as things get in this dimension. the chap in the riveting thread swears by the tiny micro clamps.

HAHA, I am working without my mask. It's why I am so loopy....

The Blackadder is in his glory. I relish doing the fine detail. Well this project is fraught with minute detail some of which is smaller than the pixel resolution in the images I have.

You're going to have to look close (If you're so inclined I won't presume my work is worth more than a causal glance.) to see where the changes are in the detail. I'm particularly pleased with the piping on the edge of the hip plate reinforcement which is literally a thread of styrene 0.4 MM by 0.75 MM. Strips so fine as to be ephemeral when full strength ProWeld is applied. I used de-volatilized Proweld to keep it from disappearing. The cog components on the ankle quadrant (sic) are a gimmee.
Note that the strips on either side of the Bow-tie like trim which I presume serve some utilitarian function.

The Knee plate reinforcements are in progress at the moment............

Looking awesome there Black, as ever!!!

Whenever I see your work, It makes me want to build the Mars pattern variant just to be different lols




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