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Bit of news.... bit of really big news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rkGvP8VFXAI

Rather disappointed with the lack of Death From Above, but other than that, looks awesome.

Perfect ambush will be me jumping on someone's head, marking another target for Mel's LRM's to smash, and then mopping up the rest before they know what will hit them.

One of the Assault/defense skills reduces DFA damage, so I would guess that DFA is definately in the game... just not in any video..... yet.

Indeed.

I wonder how effective jumping actually is in the game though? I saw some rather high cliffs (higher than an atlas' head), could I, say, jump on / over those cliffs in my catapult to escape less mobile enemies?

Hopefully, but I wouldn't be surprised if a drop from too high too fast could cause damage to legs; if it's going by section.

Given that the guy in that video was specifically aiming at his opponent's left arm, I think it is damage by section.

To solve the drop speed thing, what you do is simple-- don't use all of your jump jet power to jump ,so that as you are falling you can pulse the jump jets to slow down.

Yey, it's the obvious solution.
Stuff like the Atlas would use it more as breaks in an air drop than to really fly around.

If an Atlas has JJ's then you're doing it wrong.

Also, I read in an interview 12 mechs per side in the big games. So three lances vs. three lances, 24 Mech Brawl... this is going to be awesome.

I doubt if the Atlas even has them in this game, but I could be wrong there-- depends on how much customization they go with (usually chassis either have the option for jets or don't, and I know of only one Atlas variant that has jump jets-- and those three jets wouldn't do much to something of its size).

The Catapult has them default though, so that it can get to vantage points and escape pursuers.

Please, please - give me a way to get jump jets on an Atlas in this game.

If this happens, I also want a way to hear my opponent's screaming as I come cruising out of the sky at them, and a way to put a Trollface on my Atlas.

On the soles of your atlas.

I just imagine JJ's on an Atlas just leaves scorchmarks on your footprints, because that beast isn't going anywhere.

I wonder if they're going to do straight 'up' JJ's or if they're going to harken back to the terrible ideas of MW2 where you had direction jets. That was always fun.

Well directional jets would be nice on the more mobile units. In Senjo no Kizuna you have two pedals for your jets; forward and upward thrusters. Allowing you to dash forward a bit. On the heavier mechs I'd say they'd be more of an air break than jump jets, slowing a fall at best. More than that and you're likely generating too much heat.

You could probably get ones for the sides too, but that'd be over complicating it. I'd remove them for something more useful and use rotating the body to change the direction of the forward ones. I don't expect the mechs to be flying around everywhere so being able to strafe in the air may not be all that useful.

On lighter mechs back in the day it was broken. It became more Armored Core and significantly less Mechwarrior. It did allow for some really fine maneuverability, but when abused the results were both frustrating and hilarious.

I believe in the later games they took them out, and made them straight 'jump' jets, rather than 'dodge-everything' jets.

Yeh, give a lighter mech the chance at too much mobility and it'll go well even with some crappy weapon in the right hands.

I remember in my old Clan back in the day we used to joust with Fireflies... strip them of armor, try and max out their speed, and dead-sprint at each other.

That almost never ended well.

In the tabletop version, I designed a 100 ton mech with JJs... thing was a long range beast nicknamed the Gorgon.... Twin LRM 20s, Gauss, Srm 4pack on the back. Racked up 5 DFA kills.


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In the tabletop version, I designed a 100 ton mech with JJs... thing was a long range beast nicknamed the Gorgon.... Twin LRM 20s, Gauss, Srm 4pack on the back. Racked up 5 DFA kills.

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I remember in my old Clan back in the day we used to joust with Fireflies... strip them of armor, try and max out their speed, and dead-sprint at each other.

That almost never ended well.

Sounds like something I might try. Though I'd keep a light weapon on it.

Hopefully looking something like this.


If all else fails I guess there's still urban, hopefully it'll be able to roll or something.

Someone needs to squash that little R2D2 wannabe beer can... I can't stand that thing.

It will be my personal goal to snipe every single one of those I see on the battlefield and grind it's armor beneath my feet.


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This.

Nuff said.

Just point me towards some other light mass produced PoS I can fix up then.

Though could just stay with the Centurion... I can ignore the head fin thing.

Go get a Gunda-

-I mean an Incubus. That's light mass but actually looks cool.

Pfft Zaku.

This is? Google also said something about it being called Vixen at times.

Oh I LOVE the Vixen! Such a great mech! I have one painted up at home, I'll snap a picture if I can find it.

The Incubus looked sorta like a Macross clone, yeah, its from that era.

And yes, I'll take my GOUF Custom over a Gundam any day... keep your fancy energy swords, I have a power-axe. (Heathawk... whatever).

Though there's one I wouldn't mind seeing in it from macross, it'd fit somewhat.

They had that in Ghost Bear's Legacy. I believe it was called the Rhino.

Stone Rhino? (coinicdentally made by the same company that made the Incubus in lore, I looked at them on some wiki while looking it up ).


I wouldn't pilot something so heavy, but I like the look of it still.

Yep! That's the one. It's basically a walking artillery platform, and it has a cool look to it. I like the Macross version better personally, but that's because I think the arms look better.

If I'm going big angry mech I think a Kodiak would be more entertaining, there's a big mech with JJ's that I can get behind.

If melee is ever added, that could be interesting.

Melee would indeed be interesting, and somewhat tricky I think. Would likely give more use to the centurion's shield arm.

Yeah, it'd be nice if you could load up the armor on said arm and then have a command that holds it up across your vitals as you march forward.

But the idea of an Atlas punching something, clawing someone with a Kodiak, or crushing something with a Hatchetman is just too cool. I think the Draconis Combine had a mech with an s-word as a melee weapon as well. How efficient that is I have no idea, but I'm sure it looks cool.

Personally I just want the arm to be more than just sitting there and needing you to rotate to actually make use of it. People who aren't idiots would just roll their eyes and shoot out a leg instead.

Have the right physics for melee in it and people could play football with an urban after ripping off its limbs.