Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Less ridiculously big picture from Mexican Ork:

Thairne wrote:You're aware thats a UNIT of dreads, so 1-3 ?

I was kinda thinking that might be the case, but wasn't sure.
In any case, not sure that would help much since I have two radically different setups planned for my Dreads.

3 rifledreads are pretty cheap, fairly durable in cover too, 12 twin linked str7 shots is not too bad

^I had one with an Assault Cannon and Flamer-Fist, and another with a Lascannon and Missile Launcher, don't really think they'd like to share a squad.

3 with twin lascannon and missile might be fun too, 3 with assault cannon, 3 plasma cannons too, all for fairly cheap.

 Formosa wrote:
3 with twin lascannon and missile might be fun too, 3 with assault cannon, 3 plasma cannons too, all for fairly cheap.

Magnetize?

Do people expect the Tac requirement for the DA Demi-Company to be 5 man combat squads?

As my Angels of Absolution force currently stands this is somewhat more achievable.

I think as it stands a Greenwing and a Ravenwing are my best "detachment" options for an easy to field army, and that's my over-all aim for AoS. Small force, take out of the box and play.

I'll take other questions about it over to other parts of Dakka.

But are the Plastic Company veterans seen in the German GW conversions or a new box set?

The release schedule doesn't point to there being one, so it looks like you need to buy Company Veterans and new Dev Squad to achieve the new Grav wielding guys.

I know robbed metal DA still roam Ebay at affordable enough prices, but plastic options seem more desirable for Tacs and Devs.

They're conversions utilizing this boxed set and parts from the basic Tactical and Devastator Squads, which if you aren't planning on arming them with Grav weaponry would leave you with extras.

 Jambles wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
3 with twin lascannon and missile might be fun too, 3 with assault cannon, 3 plasma cannons too, all for fairly cheap.

Magnetize?

Nah veberable dreads, they have slot in and out weapons, it's like buying the rhino over the razorback, just get the veberable dread kit, looks better and is a much better kit.

Hmmm... This may actually tempt me to dust off my DW and RW...

 Formosa wrote:

 Jambles wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
3 with twin lascannon and missile might be fun too, 3 with assault cannon, 3 plasma cannons too, all for fairly cheap.

Magnetize?

Nah veberable dreads, they have slot in and out weapons, it's like buying the rhino over the razorback, just get the veberable dread kit, looks better and is a much better kit.

Even better!

Formosa wrote:3 with twin lascannon and missile might be fun too, 3 with assault cannon, 3 plasma cannons too, all for fairly cheap.

Would be, though that would be AT LEAST 4 more kits for me... I've got two bodies with a Lascannon, Plasma Cannon, Assault Cannon and two Flamer-Fists. The Furioso kit I converted has a Frag Launcher I might be able to use as a Multi-Melta and I'm desperately looking for a Missile Launcher.

Jambles wrote:Magnetize?

No need, you can slide arms on and off Dreads and weapons in and out of weapon-arms with no problems.

If Dark Angels are getting this kind of treatment, maybe there's the barest glimmer that Chaos Marines not also get something half-way decent this time around? (and then comes the whole hope being the first step to you-know-where obviously...)

^Maybe the Chaos Space Marines won't, but if the X Daemonkin books are good, that might help!
...At least if you don't want to play Chaos Undivided armies.

CrashGordon94 wrote:
^Maybe the Chaos Space Marines won't, but if the X Daemonkin books are good, that might help!
...At least if you don't want to play Chaos Undivided armies.

...so much for the Black Legion, I guess they're really not that important story wise anyways!

CrashGordon94 wrote:
^Maybe the Chaos Space Marines won't, but if the X Daemonkin books are good, that might help!
...At least if you don't want to play Chaos Undivided armies.

As long as the other daemonkin books are done better than the Khorne one maybe. Basically just took the Khorne units out of Daemons and Chaos Marines and smashed them together into one book. Take out Daemonic instability and throw in the Blood Tithe table and done. There. Just wrote the entire codex in thirty seconds.

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're conversions utilizing this boxed set and parts from the basic Tactical and Devastator Squads, which if you aren't planning on arming them with Grav weaponry would leave you with extras.

That's what I figured. Considering the Demi-company requires 0-1 company veterans, it'd be a good buy with a Dev squad when I already require the new dev for weapon upgrade and swaps across my Dark Angel army and Vanilla home-brew chapter.

Still not enough robes, wings and shoulder-pads to go around with the current model range. The DV Tac squad are very limited. The only model with customisability of any note is the Heavy plasma guy. I used mine for a champion unit, and subbed in a Missile Marine I had spare.

So many vanilla units now part of the codex and useful for building the formations are now in the webstore listing, including both command squad boxes, but no Tac's.

So this is either an oversight, or they're holding back on a kit that's on ice, but not in the release pipeline just yet.

Devastators aren't listed yet in there either; so it's just something that won't "go loud" until the actual release comes up this weekend most likely.

Don't be surprised at a big bundle army including Tacticals and Devastators...and it being immediately out of stock in some places, like Devastators are.

I'm going to go ahead an be that guy for everybody.

So going off what we know so far when it comes to formations will RW be an army anymore with regards to tournament play? Typically from what I've heard, most tournaments allow the formation of formations but do not let you duplicate the auxiliary formation elements. Which means at most (as of right now) it only allows you a single squad of RW bikers, some landspeeders and some flyers. We have no knowledge, that I'm aware of, if Sammael allows RW as troops still with regards to CADs. So with RWBKs suspiciously absent along with a large RW oriented formation like the DW are currently shown to have, RW seem to be getting the short end of the stick.

Now I feel like there are many more formations yet to be revealed. Yet as an RW player and a lonnnnnng time DA player in general (meaning used to disappointment) I think we may have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I've got my fingers crossed the GW with give me a reason to comeback to their unholy light lol.

More photos, posted by Timotheus and Brother Dean - B&C

 Kanluwen wrote:
Devastators aren't listed yet in there either; so it's just something that won't "go loud" until the actual release comes up this weekend most likely.

Don't be surprised at a big bundle army including Tacticals and Devastators...and it being immediately out of stock in some places, like Devastators are.

I suppose you're right, a web bundle of limit supply seem's like it could happen.

Certainly for the Irish store the new Librarian is out of stock already. Very popular.

A discount hobby store only a few hundred meters from the only GW left in the Republic also had the DA box for €75 on Tuesday. A fiver off is not to be sniffed at, especially now that I know the Ravenwing upgrade sprue is also in the box.

Experiment 626 wrote:...so much for the Black Legion, I guess they're really not that important story wise anyways!

Hey, hardly the most fluff-screwing thing GW's ever done!

Ignatius wrote:As long as the other daemonkin books are done better than the Khorne one maybe. Basically just took the Khorne units out of Daemons and Chaos Marines and smashed them together into one book. Take out Daemonic instability and throw in the Blood Tithe table and done. There. Just wrote the entire codex in thirty seconds.

Hence IF the X Daemonkin books are good. If they're bad you're probably screwed because I'm guessing that between the X Daemonkin books taking up the "update space" for Chaos and having "Higher-priority" (In GW's mind) Codexes to update (such as Space Wolves and Blood Angels), it's likely gonna be a while before they update Codex: Chaos Space Marines again. Maybe even after they release 8th edition 40k.

I am still very doubtful of any more Daemonkin books....

who would bother with a Chaos Daemons army anymore?

As much a s I would love for them to release a Chaos Khorne Daemonkin, Slaanesh Daemonkin, Nurgle Daemonkin, Tzeentch daemonkin, Chaos Space Marines, Renegade Marines, Renegade and and Heretics, Chaos Legions, and Chaos Daemon books.... we all know GW doesent care about selling Chaos.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
who would bother with a Chaos Daemons army anymore?

Those who want an Undivided Daemon army, and they'll be miserable about GW deciding to faction it off like this because a new Daemons Codex is gonna be even further away for most of the same reasons with a "Daemons don't sell as well as CSM" cherry on top.

At the very least you could probably build one with all the books and 4 CADs, but I would hardly blame someone if buying 4 Codexes to make a stupidly huge army isn't an appealing prospect to them. At the very least they'd all be Battle Brother and they could throw in loads of CSM and Cultists as they pleased, but that's cold comforts for them I could imagine.

If all else fails there's Unbound, but I don't blame them if that's not appealing either. I know I personally would feel bad about making an Unbound army because of its reputation for being the cheaters' way to build armies, even if I'd never judge someone that way myself (possibly even if they were doing it).

this isn't a daemonkin thread, so let's not get derailed. Unless you want to talk about The Fallen....then please keep typing, and ignore the cars pulling up outside your home.

Going back OT, I'm really curious as to what the general DW/RW decurions will allow as far as add on units.

"Interromancy". Really GW? Couldn't come up with a better name?

 bullyboy wrote:
this isn't a daemonkin thread, so let's not get derailed. Unless you want to talk about The Fallen....then please keep typing, and ignore the cars pulling up outside your home.

Going back OT, I'm really curious as to what the general DW/RW decurions will allow as far as add on units.

Surely you mean the bikes

I've always imagined Ravenwing (and its' successor analogues) as a Sons of Anarchy style outlaw biker gang within the Unforgiven themselves, where the rest of the chapter sees them as showoffs and grandstanders.

Just like the Sons there's an inner circle of the President (Sam..raven?) and his VP (The RW Chaplain/Librarian) and his men at arms/ men of mayhem (Black Knights) who keep secrets from the rest of the club and pursue their own agenda and get up to all sorts of heinous, shady stuff. Lower down on the rungs you have the normal membership (Ravenwing Bikers) and the prospects (scouts).

ADrunknPirate wrote:
"Interromancy". Really GW? Couldn't come up with a better name?

Darkomancy?

Unforgivomancy?

Ambigumancy?

ADrunknPirate wrote:"Interromancy". Really GW? Couldn't come up with a better name?

I don't have an issue with the name but now it reminds me of the Interrobang.

 Thairne wrote:

So I expect this Lion's Blade to represent the force sent after the *cough* target *cough* has been located.

You need to shut your mouth, bro.