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2012/05/18 11:32:17
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Tower of Power
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Does a wound taken by perils count towards combat resolution?
When two D.E units kill a single enemy unit in combat, who gets the pain token? Both units or just the unit which dealt the death blow?
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2012/05/18 11:48:18
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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1. I dont think so.....but im not sure
2. If two units wipe a unit at the same time (very unlikely scenario) Example 2 squads of wyches at I6 kill a squad of guardsmen...then you assign the token randomly between them (if i recall)
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2012/05/18 12:45:40
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Tower of Power
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I wouldn't have thought so about perils either, as perils was caused by the psyker not by the attack units.
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2012/05/18 13:03:34
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All wounds count toward resolution, if a vehicle blows up next to them and it kills 2 witches it counts towards resolution, perils counts towards resolution. Whatever happens during the assualt phase counts toward resolution.
Not suere about the pain tokens, I don't have the codex.
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2012/05/18 13:17:59
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Lightcavalier wrote:1. I dont think so.....but im not sure
2. If two units wipe a unit at the same time (very unlikely scenario) Example 2 squads of wyches at I6 kill a squad of guardsmen...then you assign the token randomly between them (if i recall)
correct, it goes by inititive step with ties being a roll off.
If you sweep and cut down your opponent it is the same thing. Even if one unit caught them and the other didnt as i recall
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2012/05/18 14:55:12
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Sinewy Scourge
Grand ol US of A
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Yeah if both units would destroy a unit (say two squads of incubi kill a single tac squad at the same initiative (one doesn't have FC or assaulted through cover w/e then you randomize which squad gets the pain token.
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d3m01iti0n wrote:
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2012/05/18 15:30:22
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Snickerdoodle wrote:Whatever happens during the assualt phase counts toward resolution.
This is not exactly true. All wounds inflicted by models on either side (regardless whether those wounds are inflicted by the enemy or an ally) count towards combat resolution. Wounds inflicted by outside factors, I.E. those wounds not caused by either side (such as wounds from DT tests incurred while launching an assault) do not. Wounds incurred during the entire assault phase are not necessarily counted for determining assault results, just those incurred during the actual combat. (see this thread for more details: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/449087.page )
So yes, PotW wounds count towards combat resolution as they are inflicted by a model involved in the combat.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2012/05/18 16:50:51
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Who would they count towards? LOL.
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2012/05/18 16:53:18
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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axeman1n wrote:Who would they count towards? LOL.
They would count the same way vehicle explosions do:
BGB FAQ wrote:Q: In a multiple combat involving opposing vehicles
and non-vehicle units are wounds caused by the
Destroyed – Explodes! result on the Vehicle Damage
table counted towards the combat total? (p63)
A: Yes all wounds caused in this way will count.
Unsaved wounds caused to enemy models will count to
your combat total and unsaved wounds caused to
friendly models will count to your opponents combat
total.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2012/05/18 17:22:24
Subject: Perils in combat and pain tokens in combat?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Lordhat wrote:Snickerdoodle wrote:Whatever happens during the assualt phase counts toward resolution.
This is not exactly true. All wounds inflicted by models on either side (regardless whether those wounds are inflicted by the enemy or an ally) count towards combat resolution. Wounds inflicted by outside factors, I.E. those wounds not caused by either side (such as wounds from DT tests incurred while launching an assault) do not. Wounds incurred during the entire assault phase are not necessarily counted for determining assault results, just those incurred during the actual combat. (see this thread for more details: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/449087.page )
So yes, PotW wounds count towards combat resolution as they are inflicted by a model involved in the combat.
There's another exception to this, the C'Tans "Gaze of Death" power doesn't count towards resolution.
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