Tomb Blade Loadout

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**Exalted Pariah**

This seems like another weapon choice question, but after I began assembling my tomb blades I realised that the weapons and equipment choices cant be simply magnetized on. So what weapons/equipment choices should I choose?

**Sasori**

Keeping them cheap, is probably best.

Getting lost in all their fancy upgrades, can add up very quick. I'd say either keep them base, with Blasters, or the Particle beamers. Maybe add the Shadowloom. Anything more than that, is probably not needed.

You have to look at your current meta, to decide how to equip them. If you need something to pile on the wounds, then perhaps the Particle beamer is best. If you need something a bit more multipurpose, but can still fire a lot of shots, then perhaps the Twin-linked Blaster.

**Exalted Pariah**

Yeah, Im stuck between the two, my meta is a mix of marines, guard, eldar, orkz, grey knights and tyranids, so I'm not sure if multipurpose or extra killy would be best. My only thought on the blasters is: if Im in 12" of the target for rapid fire, they can assualt me next turn....right?

**HawaiiMatt**

Personally, I'd wait for more 6th edition rumors.
S6 blast is good, but might be better if how multi-level things shake out.
Rapid fire might be getting better.

In the current 5th edition rule set the answer is easy. Take more Wraiths instead.

-Matt

**Lucre**

Is the shadowloom even a modeled upgrade?

**King Pariah**

Lucre wrote:Is the shadowloom even a modeled upgrade?

Considering how the codex says the shadowloom generator is a scarab sized device, I doubt it and I doubt that anyone would really care.

**Exalted Pariah**

Yes, the shield vanes, nebuloscopes AND shadowloom are model upgrades. The scopes look like antenna on the back, the vanes are an extra pair of armor plates on the side, the shadoloom is about two necron heads in size and goes on the top of the jetbike. I really wished the weaapons could easily be magnetised, but I guess I'll give them to my stalker instead

**Praxiss**

I would go withthe Blasters personally. if you are facing the "lighter" armies (DE, Eldar, orks, IG) you will deny their infantry armour saves.

S5 will also wound MEQ on a 3+ so are quite reliable.

Also the Blasters are gauss so auto-glance on a 6 - making them able to stun-lock tanks.

**Kharrak**

By the way, I'd strongly recommend only taking Nebuloscopes if you're also taking Gauss Blasters. This is the only case where BS5 makes a notable difference, and a very impressive difference when rapid firing.

**Zid**

Cheaper the better. Ill be playing a couple squads of them today hopefully so look out for the rep in the near future!

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Cheaper the better. Ill be playing a couple squads of them today hopefully so look out for the rep in the near future!

**Exalted Pariah**

Will do zid! Ill just hold off on the weapons and playtest with my friends, good point on the scopes kharrak.

**Gangrel767**

I have magnetized mine. super easy for the tesla and gauss... the particles were a little more... tricky.

**Sasori**

Kharrak wrote:By the way, I'd strongly recommend only taking Nebuloscopes if you're also taking Gauss Blasters. This is the only case where BS5 makes a notable difference, and a very impressive difference when rapid firing.

They are already Twin-linked. Paying for the BS5 is overkill.

**ShadarLogoth**

Sasori wrote:
Kharrak wrote:By the way, I'd strongly recommend only taking Nebuloscopes if you're also taking Gauss Blasters. This is the only case where BS5 makes a notable difference, and a very impressive difference when rapid firing.

They are already Twin-linked. Paying for the BS5 is overkill.

Have to agree with Sasori here. Only case I can really make for the nubscopes is in conjunction with the Particle Beamers and only then if you have 25 points to spare towards the end of list generation.

Blasters without nubscopes hit 88.89% of their shots while with nubscopes hit 97.22% of there shots. Which is cool, but a 25% upgrade over base cost for 9% damage increase?

I run mine Shadowloomed with Blasters, as I generally use them for either easily re-deploy-able Turbo Boosting cover walls or for Turbo Boosting around vehicles I'm about to can open so the squishy bits can't exit their esplodin metal box.

**Kharrak**

Sasori wrote:
Kharrak wrote:By the way, I'd strongly recommend only taking Nebuloscopes if you're also taking Gauss Blasters. This is the only case where BS5 makes a notable difference, and a very impressive difference when rapid firing.

They are already Twin-linked. Paying for the BS5 is overkill.

Egh, forgot about the Twin-Linked. Yeah, that generally does mean that paying for BS5 is nice, but putting in too many points for a comparatively minimal improvement.

**Exalted Pariah**

After checking how many points each weapon and upgrade is, I decided on gauss blasters. One more question though, how many inches does a jetbike have to go before it gets its cover save? and can it still shoot at that distance?

**Lordhat**

Exalted Pariah wrote:After checking how many points each weapon and upgrade is, I decided on gauss blasters. One more question though, how many inches does a jetbike have to go before it gets its cover save? and can it still shoot at that distance?

This is easily answered by reading your rulebook. If you don't have one, buy one.

**skoffs**

Lordhat wrote:
Exalted Pariah wrote:how many inches does a jetbike have to go before it gets its cover save? and can it still shoot at that distance?
This is easily answered by reading your rulebook. If you don't have one, buy one.

... wow.
How dare someone ask a minor question on the tactics forum instead of digging through the rule book for the answer, right?

**ShadarLogoth**

skoffs wrote:
Lordhat wrote:
Exalted Pariah wrote:how many inches does a jetbike have to go before it gets its cover save? and can it still shoot at that distance?
This is easily answered by reading your rulebook. If you don't have one, buy one.
... wow.
How dare someone ask a minor question on the tactics forum instead of digging through the rule book for the answer, right?

Yeah no joke. Lordhat, I bet you're a really fun person to be around IRL.

**Sasori**

Lordhat wrote:
Exalted Pariah wrote:After checking how many points each weapon and upgrade is, I decided on gauss blasters. One more question though, how many inches does a jetbike have to go before it gets its cover save? and can it still shoot at that distance?
This is easily answered by reading your rulebook. If you don't have one, buy one.

No need to be a jerk, better not to post a response in this case.

To answer your question Pariah, you can move up to 12' and fire your weapons. Keep in mind that you also have relentless on your bikes as well. You can turbo-boost up to 24' and gain a cover save of 3+. You do have to move at least 18' from your starting point though.

Refrences are on page 53, and 76.

**Exalted Pariah**

Thank you, actually I checked my book and had a game just before this lol. THough I might have played somethign wrong, if I give the blades stealth, and they turbo boost, do they get a 2+ cover save? And I decided on gauss blasters, beamers are too expensive and are less reliable without the gauss rule, twin-linked and rapid fire. Not sure if I should give them the 3+ armor though, they were MVP of my game without them though(still lost badly though, lol stupid guardsmen)

**ShadarLogoth**

Exalted Pariah wrote:Thank you, actually I checked my book and had a game just before this lol. THough I might have played somethign wrong, if I give the blades stealth, and they turbo boost, do they get a 2+ cover save? And I decided on gauss blasters, beamers are too expensive and are less reliable without the gauss rule, twin-linked and rapid fire. Not sure if I should give them the 3+ armor though, they were MVP of my game without them though(still lost badly though, lol stupid guardsmen)

Yes, Turbo Boosting Shadowloomed Tomb Blades receive a 2+ cover save. I personally would never give them the 3+ armor in the current edition, however if universal cover drops to 5+ in 6th the 3+ armor upgraded becomes much more viable.

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Sasori wrote:
To answer your question Pariah, you can move up to 12' and fire your weapons. Keep in mind that you also have relentless on your bikes as well. You can turbo-boost up to 24' and gain a cover save of 3+. You do have to move at least 18' from your starting point though.

Of course Sasori means 12" not 12'.

12' might be considered a tad broken for a 20 point jet bike.

**skoffs**

ShadarLogoth wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

Sasori wrote:To answer your question Pariah, you can move up to 12' and fire your weapons. Keep in mind that you also have relentless on your bikes as well. You can turbo-boost up to 24' and gain a cover save of 3+. You do have to move at least 18' from your starting point though.
Of course Sasori means 12" not 12'.

12' might be considered a tad broken for a 20 point jet bike.

...
"My Tomb Blades boost twelve feet and shoot at the Balrog in the LotR game two tables over."

**Sasori**

Of course Sasori means 12" not 12'.

12' might be considered a tad broken for a 20 point jet bike.

Well, if you knew what I meant, then I said it right. lol.

**ShadarLogoth**

Sasori wrote:
Of course Sasori means 12" not 12'.

12' might be considered a tad broken for a 20 point jet bike.

Well, if you knew what I meant, then I said it right. lol.

Heh no doubt. It just painted a funny picture as Skoffs clearly demonstrates so I thought it was worth mentioning

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**Sneaky_Chicken_sal**

How do the particle beamers compare to the gauss blasters? I see how the blasters are good for MEQ and less, but wouldnt str 6 blast templates also do the same but also be more viable against hordes?