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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 00:01:27
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Hi dakka, I've edited this post to get some feedback on my latest list. I played my first game with necrons the other day and realised a few things (I wanted to try out lychguard and monolith as i like the models but yer as the net will tell everyone they aren't great, whereas wraiths scarabs and deathmarks are my friends haha). So I've made a list for units I like and semi-competitive (play friendly games but still want to win a few). My friends have orks grey knights space wolves dark angels and chaos.
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Anrakyr + CCB
Overlord (scythe,mss,phase shifter) CCB
TROOPS
Warriors x5 destructek x1
Warriors x5 destructek x1 (pulse x1)
Warriors x5 destructek x1 (pulse x1)
Warriors x5 destructek x1
ELITES
Deathmarks x5 veiltek
Stalker
FAST
Wraiths x6 (whip coil x3, particle shifter)
Scarabs x6
HEAVY
Annihilation barge
Doom Scythe
= 1830
I've gone for a mix of units that I enjoy modeling/painting/using as it doesn't need to be ultra competitive and keeping costs down.
Now I need to decide on last 170pts:
Another stalker? (Like the heat ray itself, not got much to twin link though)
More deathmarks? (Love these guys)
Another anni barge? (These get a lot of love but mine got shot down before it had chance, a second would help that I guess)
More scarabs? (Love these, have only 3 at the mo and they still ate a tank with ease after being ignored)
More warriors or destructek's or both?
So advice/help/suggestions welcome and greatly appreciated... Thanks  !
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/08 15:23:05
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 08:23:49
Subject: Necron 2000pts viability (Zahndrekh inc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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List looks good.
Did you consider not using Zahndrek? In your list I assume he is primarily for tank hunters? You could have a basic overlord in another CCB for the same points.
i've been finding Z has been more useful putting FC onto scarabs when throwing them against infantry - S8 from the Lanceteks seems to be ok anyway, particularly as you have multiple squads to shoot if you miss.
Cost for the models is worse here in Oz! I feel your pain.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/04 08:25:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 08:47:59
Subject: Necron 2000pts viability (Zahndrekh inc)
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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MarkCron wrote:List looks good.
Did you consider not using Zahndrek? In your list I assume he is primarily for tank hunters? You could have a basic overlord in another CCB for the same points.
Hi mark! I did yer, I thought against it really because 1) its another £20 :/; and 2) I wanted use a special character as its not competitive gaming I like the fluff of having a special character and he seemed the best fit for this list.
I'll probably end up caving and getting an extra one anyways though haha.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 15:24:35
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Updated the post with a new list, looking for feedback on last 170, would really be appreciated thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 15:32:17
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
Mandragora, Eastern Fringe
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More troops, like 2 squads of tesla immortals is a perfect 170 pts.
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Sautekh Dynasty 5000 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 15:41:50
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Great Deceiver wrote:More troops, like 2 squads of tesla immortals is a perfect 170 pts.
Or one squad of 10 Tesla Immortals so that they can all get the upgrade from Anrakyr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 16:25:34
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Without a second hq your royal court is illegal. You can only take one pulse per royal court.
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Victory is not the most important outcome. Enjoyment and excitement is the best outcome, victory is sweeter when it was fun. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 16:31:31
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Dave-c wrote:Without a second hq your royal court is illegal. You can only take one pulse per royal court.
I have Anrakyr and an overlord as my two hq so it is legal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 17:21:20
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
Mandragora, Eastern Fringe
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Dave-c wrote:Without a second hq your royal court is illegal. You can only take one pulse per royal court.
Anrakyr and Overlord = 2 HQs.
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Sautekh Dynasty 5000 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:12:02
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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My mistake, will double check next time.
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Victory is not the most important outcome. Enjoyment and excitement is the best outcome, victory is sweeter when it was fun. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:31:25
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Dave-c wrote:My mistake, will double check next time.
No worries
With regards to the immortals I am actually quite tempted by that... Will have to look into gauss vs tesla (thinking tesla atm) and whether two 5 man or one 10 man are better.... If I do go with immortals that is haha, only thing putting me off is the cost due to needing two boxes for them
Thanks for all the help so far!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 02:26:50
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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For your 170 points, another anni barge (90), drop 1 pulse, another Anni barge, add nightmare shroud to DespairTek.
Sorted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 04:50:52
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Fill out the points in scarabs. Add a unit and grow the other. 6 isn't enough, a small distraction at best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 09:34:25
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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MarkCron wrote:For your 170 points, another anni barge (90), drop 1 pulse, another Anni barge, add nightmare shroud to DespairTek.
Sorted.
Problem with this is I'd have to drop the doom scythe as the third heavy support and I really want to include one lol! I thought about adding one anni barge but then have an awkward 80 points left.
@Dave-c, I did enjoy how even just 3 scarabs can eat a tank, and know I probably need more, but unless I find some on eBay It's awkward to buy them without £20 for more warriors I don't need or £60 for the battleforce. Its a great suggestion though thanks and I will look into that too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 10:03:44
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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adam304 wrote:MarkCron wrote:For your 170 points, another anni barge (90), drop 1 pulse, another Anni barge, add nightmare shroud to DespairTek.
Sorted.
Problem with this is I'd have to drop the doom scythe as the third heavy support and I really want to include one lol! I thought about adding one anni barge but then have an awkward 80 points left.
Fair enough. If you just wanted to use the model, you could use it as a night scythe (use the spare points to convert a warrior squad to immortals (eternals)) and add a stormtek. That would give you eternals, 4 tesla destructors and the ability to move the eternals really fast if you wanted to!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 18:25:10
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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I think I'm going to go with immortals to be honest. I play guard normally so im used to lots of troops and this will give me some tesla to go with the stalker.
Although I'm still thinking about more barges and scarabs lol....
With the immortals are one full strength squad or two units of 5 better? Obviously the unit of ten will benefit more from eternals... But less tactical mobility?
Also trying to decide whether to spend 140 on all the stuff I need, or 160 and have extra warriors and a doomsday ark left over from the battleforce. I need to get a box of warriors (8 warriors, 4 cryptek converts, scarabs), and a box of immortals (need two overall) for this list anyway... so is it worth the extra £20 to have those spare warriors/scarabs/ark?
I know it works out cheaper if I were to buy those but i dunno... Thoughts?
Thanks so far everyone btw
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 19:20:29
Subject: Re:Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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The 6 Scarabs might be enough if you put them near some Spyders and kept spawning more scarabs per turn. Or I love the Triarch Stalker so you could get another one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 20:59:55
Subject: Re:Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Tyno2025 wrote:The 6 Scarabs might be enough if you put them near some Spyders and kept spawning more scarabs per turn. Or I love the Triarch Stalker so you could get another one.
I do love the stalker as well! Argh so many things I want to include  haha. I'd definitely enjoy using another stalker... Same with deathmarks..
Does anybody have any thoughts on the viability of just one 5 man tesla immortal squad... I'm thinking of one immortal squad and one more anni barge (dropping the particle shifter on wraiths so its 1995pts)...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 23:37:21
Subject: Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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adam304 wrote:Also trying to decide whether to spend 140 on all the stuff I need, or 160 and have extra warriors and a doomsday ark left over from the battleforce. I need to get a box of warriors (8 warriors, 4 cryptek converts, scarabs), and a box of immortals (need two overall) for this list anyway... so is it worth the extra £20 to have those spare warriors/scarabs/ark?
I know it works out cheaper if I were to buy those but i dunno... Thoughts?
Having spare scarabs, warriors and an ark won't hurt. You'll also have deathmark backs and heads left (unless you build them and use warrior chests and legs to make the immortals - that works well) - more crypteks! I need a little bit more stuff - PM me if you like , I might take some of the spare stuff off you.
adam304 wrote:I think I'm going to go with immortals to be honest. I play guard normally so im used to lots of troops and this will give me some tesla to go with the stalker.
Although I'm still thinking about more barges and scarabs lol....
With the immortals are one full strength squad or two units of 5 better? Obviously the unit of ten will benefit more from eternals... But less tactical mobility?
Depends on what you are going to use them for. tbh, a small unit of eternals doesn't seem to be worth it because the eternals buff of FC and CA is primarily a CC benefit. Not sure with I2 that attacking with a small number of eternals would work well. Maybe as a last ditch objective clearing/holding unit? Nah, 10 eternals is better.
5 immortals generally would have better survivability, and they have an S5 weapon. So, better than 5 warriors. I generally don't use them because the survivability and weapon buff doesn't get a lot of use (my warriors are essentially mini AT squads) and I'd rather have the 20 points for something else.
edit to remove surplus quote
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/10 12:30:03
Subject: Re:Newbie necrons - last 170 points for 2k??
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Freaky Flayed One
Birmingham
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Yer I'll have a think about that cheers mate. I could always try out a doomsday ark at somepoint too, I know they have their drawbacks but twin linked on a bunch of paladins from my friends grey knights is gonna hurt lol!
To be honest all the advice on here has been great so thanks, but I still have no idea which way I'm going to go haha! I think i'll get some bits for now and decide after another game or two. If next time I play the anni barge rips the opponent to shreds then I'll probably go for that. If I drop a solar pulse I can get
1 anni barge
1 unit of 5 immortals
1 extra scarab base.
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