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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/15 16:05:59
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Hey there, I need help with rules on a new flyer I am making. Anybody willing to help?
It is based on an old 1/72nd scale Airfix Short Sterling bomber from WW2. I have converted it to be Imperial Navy.
It is armed with: 1 Multi-laser, 1 Lascannon,Twin-Linked heavy Bolters, Twin-Linked Autocannons, Storm-Bolter, Twin-Linked Plasma Guns and 2 Hellstrike Missiles.
Any help on a name and rules would be appreciated, thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/15 16:13:12
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Pete Haines
Springfield, MA
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You could call it the Bristler, because that seems like alot of guns. Is that too many? I can't really be of much help on this one.
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"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."
I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/15 18:42:29
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Hiding in a ruined Chimera
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Yh i would say that i should only have the heavy bolters the lascannon and the hellstrike missiles, other wise that model should have a pts value of 350!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/15 20:10:29
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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It doesn't look right without the other weapons, that's why they are on there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/15 20:36:52
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Lord of the Fleet
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Sounds a bit silly if you ask me: a WWII model with a few random weapons tacked on. I'd keep it to the TL Autocannon, Hellstrikes and maybe the Heavy Bolter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 11:33:43
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Could you post a pic to give us a better idea?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 11:37:52
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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I will later today. It doesn't look too bad if I'm honest. Here it is: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-32374-26871_New%20Flyer.html
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/06/16 14:34:13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 16:45:31
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Pete Haines
Springfield, MA
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Having that variety of guns makes it able to do alot of things but not be as great at any of them than a more specialized unit. That would make it not as likely to exist, but i'm sure somewhere in the Imperium they have it.
It defintely uses the flyer rules from apocalypse/forge world. Saying that thing could hover is crap. Then again... do the ork bommers have rules that force them to go forward? idk, so i'm useless again.
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"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 17:43:57
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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I wasn't going to give it Hover Mode. Any help on the name then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 19:31:29
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Pete Haines
Springfield, MA
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The Jack (jack of all trades)?
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"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."
I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 21:56:50
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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its a british design, and Short always named their aircraft after towns and villages, like sunderland or stirling so it could be the Short Hades or something....
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/25 21:11:23
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I like the idea, and the models looks okay too,
i would say rather than having all the turrets guns having individual profiles perhaps group them all under one profile of a twin-linked heavy bolter that has a 360 degree firing arc.
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Son you can insult me, you can ambush me, you can even take away my weapons. But if you think im going to step one single pinky toe inside blue base with out my SHOTGUN... you must not know who you dealing with.
I said move...
and i said SHOTGUN...
yes I have your shotgun
no.. i mean SHOT...-GUN
what is this... you think im going to give you your shotgun back because you asked???
i said SHOTGUN.... SHOTGUN DAMMIT!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/27 09:32:42
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...
I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.
I just couldn't think of it myself
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/01 13:52:19
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...
I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.
I just couldn't think of it myself
a fighter, really? its a second world war Short Stirling, a British heavy bomber.
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/01 15:41:31
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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I like the idea of it, you could state that some to the weapons can only be used against other flyers. For instance the tail gun and the dorsal gunner wouldn't ever be able to fire at ground forces, and they would have the sky fire rules.
The flyer rules have it set up so you can fire up to four weapons at combat speed, so that would make sense with all the forward facing weapons. Since it was a bomber I would also pull the missiles and use it properly as a bomber.
Most flyers would be more symmetrical so I would have the two weapons on end of the wings be the same, and probably closer to the hull for big guns like that. (Personal opinion) I would expect the multi lasers since volume of fire would be more important then fine targeting with big weapons on a flyer.
Strikes me as more of a stay up high and bomb things then a diving to strafe the battlefield. So perhaps give it a special rule that allows it to drop two bombs as its flying per turn instead of one?
All in all I like the idea of using such models for 40k, especially with the large number of flyers that should be in this new edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/02 12:03:22
Subject: Re:Need help with a new Flyer
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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sierra 1247 wrote:CthuluIsSpy wrote:Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...
I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.
I just couldn't think of it myself
a fighter, really? its a second world war Short Stirling, a British heavy bomber.
Sorry, I am bad at identifying aircraft. I prefer tanks
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/02 21:26:17
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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i know what you mean, tanks are shootier
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/03 01:04:26
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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d.fear wrote:Hey there, I need help with rules on a new flyer I am making. Anybody willing to help?
It is based on an old 1/72nd scale Airfix Short Sterling bomber from WW2. I have converted it to be Imperial Navy.
It is armed with: 1 Multi-laser, 1 Lascannon,Twin-Linked heavy Bolters, Twin-Linked Autocannons, Storm-Bolter, Twin-Linked Plasma Guns and 2 Hellstrike Missiles.
Any help on a name and rules would be appreciated, thanks
That is too many confusing guns. I suggest a bit of standardization if you will. Eg. replace the autocannons with multi-lasers (still can be twin-linked), and the storm bolter and plasma guns with heavy bolters. Because honestly it seems like it will be annoying to deal with all those different guns shooting. Also from a fluff perspective the logistics would be mind numbing, 3 different caliber guns, plasma fuel cells, 2 missiles, and power packs or a converter for the lascannon and multi-laser, techpriests would call it heretical just so they won't have to deal with the maintenance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/03 21:34:45
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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If you look at the pics, Buttons, you can see tha it is almost physically impossible to replace the plasma guns and the storm bolter with Heavy bolters due to space restrictions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/04 00:22:38
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Looted flyer, because thats the on;y place your find this configuration. Really, a PLASMA GUN!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/04 17:49:02
Subject: Need help with a new Flyer
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Yes, a plasma gun. Don't like it? Deal with it.
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