Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion

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**Kanluwen**

Mr_Rose wrote:
Why do they want you to pay at all?

It has something to do with Canadian import tax. This is a frequent thing and really something that should be accounted for in the order itself or by the orderee to expect it.

**Gamgee**

I expected the tax. That isn't the issue. The issue is the lack of payment options.

**Haighus**

When pretty much everything else is saying that cheques aren't accepted anymore, it is really odd to come across an example that only accepts cheques. Very strange. I don't think I've ever written a cheque in my life, never had reason to with online banking and cash.

**Gamgee**

They also take credit card which I don't have for various reasons. The excuse he gave was "the company says its easier to keep track of the money this way. Since it kept getting lost". I wanted to tell him that's your fething companies problem people are skimming from the top, but as he is only a delivery guy it would accomplish nothing.

**Requizen**

Should we be expecting any FW Chapter Character updates any time soon? I was thinking of adding Lias Issodon into my army and was slightly concerned about him changing soon. I know Red Scorpions are going to be updated with the new IA book, or at least will show up and get the new Culln Dread, but have they said anything about the others?

**Imateria**

BrookM wrote:
Imateria wrote:
I don't think they have Grav Cannons and Arc Rifles in 30K. I would expect it to be something more like a Photon Thruster or Conversion Beamer. Maybe a new weapon altogether.
With regards to gravity weaponry, yes! Yes they do. Both FW's variant that drops difficult terrain templates and the more "modern" version as done by GW are in use during the Heresy.

I didn't say they don't have Grav weaponry, but they don't have Grav Cannons specifically which are a 40K weapon. The Graviton Imploder is the one with the Graviton rule from the BRB, and after a quick skim through the Taghmata book it seems that only the Macrocarid Exploritor and the Myrmidon Destructors are the only ones capable of taking it, given how rare the weapon seems and the fact it's on some pretty heavy duty units I'm not sure I would expect it on the Volturax. The Haywire versions might be though.

**em_en_oh_pee**

Requizen wrote:
Should we be expecting any FW Chapter Character updates any time soon? I was thinking of adding Lias Issodon into my army and was slightly concerned about him changing soon. I know Red Scorpions are going to be updated with the new IA book, or at least will show up and get the new Culln Dread, but have they said anything about the others?

I asked and was told basically they don't know when they will get to it. Here we are, almost 3 years since their last FAQ and I just have lost hope. I figure they are waiting for the last of their Badab War books to sell before they do a re-release.... at least, I hope so.

**Lockark**

Gamgee wrote:
They also take credit card which I don't have for various reasons. The excuse he gave was "the company says its easier to keep track of the money this way. Since it kept getting lost". I wanted to tell him that's your fething companies problem people are skimming from the top, but as he is only a delivery guy it would accomplish nothing.

They stopped accepting cash because of issues with drivers pocketing the money. Twice I have paid in cash, and then got a letter from a collections agency a few weeks latter saying I didn't pay.
UPS Canada is pretty bad.

**Gamgee**

That's their problem not mine. I paid him and usually keep all my receipts for a good year or so.

**Alpharius**

This is not really FW News or Rumors - please take this topic to its own thread, possibly in Dakka Discussions?

Thanks!

**Lockark**

Gamgee wrote:
That's their problem not mine. I paid him and usually keep all my receipts for a good year or so.

I realy need to say right now that this dose not protect you from haveing to pay twice when you pay in cash. This is something anyone ordering from Forge world to Canada needs to know, because of the fact
UPS is the only option.

Because they go straight to a collections agency, the angecy dose not care if you have the receipt. UPS also can not call off the agency because of how small the amount is.

You basically have to pay a 2nd time, then contact UPS with recipe from both the driver and collections agency to prove that you paided twice. It's such a pain in the ass to deal with, that most people will not fight to get the extra $20 you paid back. It's the reason why I tell everyone NEVER pay UPS in cash. Only pay them with a Credit Card.

The 1st time it happened I didn't keep the recipe, the 2nd time it happened it was to much of a headache to get $20 back. So I learned, you just don't bother using cash. More or less UPS would rather make their customers pay twice, then admit that their employee's are stealing from them. In areas were this issue has been the worst, UPS decided it's better to stop offering to take payment in cash, then to fix the issues. UPS is like some sort of corrupt 3rd world mail service here in Canada.

I RELAY dislike UPS canada, and wish I had the option to get my orders via Canada Post, or any of the other privet shipping companies.

**reds8n**

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=62556

Forge World will soon be heading back to the USA for another fantastic event. From Friday 2nd to Monday 5th September we’ll be at Dragon Con at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. We’ll be bringing the latest and greatest from Forge World, along with exclusive models and merchandise.

If you’ll be at Dragon Con you can place an order now with free shipping to the event, and make sure you get exactly what you want from Forge World. You have until 24th July to place your order for collection at Dragon Con. All you need to do is selected the USA as your delivery country, then when you’re checking out you’ll be able to choose the event for delivery.

We can't wait to see you there!

**Imateria**

em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Should we be expecting any FW Chapter Character updates any time soon? I was thinking of adding Lias Issodon into my army and was slightly concerned about him changing soon. I know Red Scorpions are going to be updated with the new IA book, or at least will show up and get the new Culln Dread, but have they said anything about the others?

I asked and was told basically they don't know when they will get to it. Here we are, almost 3 years since their last FAQ and I just have lost hope. I figure they are waiting for the last of their Badab War books to sell before they do a re-release.... at least, I hope so.

The Badab War books were removed from sale a couple months ago.

**em_en_oh_pee**

Imateria wrote:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Should we be expecting any FW Chapter Character updates any time soon? I was thinking of adding Lias Issodon into my army and was slightly concerned about him changing soon. I know Red Scorpions are going to be updated with the new IA book, or at least will show up and get the new Culln Dread, but have they said anything about the others?

I asked and was told basically they don't know when they will get to it. Here we are, almost 3 years since their last FAQ and I just have lost hope. I figure they are waiting for the last of their Badab War books to sell before they do a re-release.... at least, I hope so.

The Badab War books were removed from sale a couple months ago.

Oh... I don't check that sorta stuff that often, but that may be good news. Although the HH has basically stolen the show, so I am not holding my breath for updates.

**Desubot**

reds8n wrote:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=62556

Forge World will soon be heading back to the USA for another fantastic event. From Friday 2nd to Monday 5th September we’ll be at Dragon Con at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. We’ll be bringing the latest and greatest from Forge World, along with exclusive models and merchandise.

If you’ll be at Dragon Con you can place an order now with free shipping to the event, and make sure you get exactly what you want from Forge World. You have until 24th July to place your order for collection at Dragon Con. All you need to do is selected the USA as your delivery country, then when you’re checking out you’ll be able to choose the event for delivery.

We can't wait to see you there!

Oh boy

I hope that means they will drop by pax prime again like a few years ago.

**BrookM**

On pre-order today, the regular and special edition of the Legiones Astartes red book. Pics and links will pop up when they're functional.

The Horus Heresy Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List Special Edition is a strictly limited edition of 500 copies. This edition is bound in leather and features metal corner protectors, each embossed with the Imperial Aquilla. It has been designed to match your collection of Horus Heresy books.

This 144 page hard back book contains the complete profiles, special rules and wargear, compiled and updated, for all Space Marine Legion armies in Horus Heresy games using the Battles in the Age of Darkness gaming expansion for Warhammer 40,000. It contains the unit profiles 65 units, from Command units and Troops, such as Legion Tactical Squads, to vast fortifications and devastating super-heavy units like the Stormbird, each available all Space Marine Legion armies including new units such as the Legion Jetbike Sky Slayer Support Squadron.

Collecting together all of the unit profiles and special rules for Space Marine Legion armies from the Horus Heresy Books One to Six, along with the full Battles in the Age of Darkness gaming expansion rules, it allows you to carry something lighter to your games than the weighty tomes of our main volumes, and is intended to be used both as a resource for consulting and collecting your armies and as a handy reference during play.

Using this book, you can create army lists for any Space Marine Legion and engage them in the devastating conflicts of The Horus Heresy. This book is intended to be used alongside its companion book - The Horus Heresy Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Legions - in which you'll find special rules and wargear for individual Legions, as well as unique units and unit profiles for the mighty Primarchs.

**Peregrine**

New space marine army list is up. Regular edition:

Extra special "because FW stuff isn't expensive enough yet" edition:

Also, buy before July 31st and get a discount on HH:Betrayal (book 1), just in case you love collecting obsolete rules.

**BrookM**

Peregrine wrote:
Also, buy before July 31st and get a discount on HH:Betrayal (book 1), just in case you love collecting obsolete rules.

Or heaven fething forbid, enjoy these books for the fluff...

**Peregrine**

BrookM wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Also, buy before July 31st and get a discount on HH:Betrayal (book 1), just in case you love collecting obsolete rules.
Or heaven fething forbid, enjoy these books for the fluff...

I suspect that most of the people who care about the fluff part already bought (or otherwise obtained) their copy a long time ago.

**jah-joshua**

Peregrine wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
Also, buy before July 31st and get a discount on HH:Betrayal (book 1), just in case you love collecting obsolete rules.
Or heaven fething forbid, enjoy these books for the fluff...

I suspect that most of the people who care about the fluff part already bought (or otherwise obtained) their copy a long time ago.

to be fair, Betrayal is a beautiful book...
a discount certainly makes buying it a more tempting proposition for those who were put off by the price when it was released...
FW publications are coffee table art book quality, and great reads...

cheers
jah

**H.B.M.C.**

Are we complaining about discounts now? C'mon...

jah-joshua wrote:
to be fair, Betrayal is a beautiful book...
a discount certainly makes buying it a more tempting proposition for those who were put off by the price when it was released...
FW publications are coffee table art book quality, and great reads...

Exactly. This is a great way to get started, and could be the tipping point for someone who was holding off.

**zedmeister**

Ah, nice black edition book. Don't mind if I do...

Slightly disappointed, was hoping that this would appear alongside other possible black editions during the open day and a snazzy slipcase...

**methebest**

Its doesnt seem that much more and it'll certainly look nice, question is will they do the other red books in leather?

**Matt.Kingsley**

Got my Ltd Ed. one ordered.
~$17 AUD for a leather finish is way better than the $100 slip covers GW used to offer

.

**Peregrine**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Are we complaining about discounts now? C'mon...

Only that it's on an obsolete book, and seems like an attempt to clear out inventory that isn't selling otherwise because the rules are no longer useful. And it's going to be especially obnoxious if, as with previous obsolete books that got a discount (Vraks, for example), there's a new updated edition shortly after the stock of the old one is sold.

**Yaraton**

How often people play using FW rules? I only ask because I personally buy FW books strictly for the fluff.

**H.B.M.C.**

Peregrine wrote:
Only that it's on an obsolete book...

So there are other books in the series that cover that part of the Horus Heresy's story?

**Crazyterran**

Bought the legion book on the iPad and the army list is pre ordered. Screw paying 32 quid for each book, I'll take it for 33 Canadian each.

**tneva82**

Peregrine wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Are we complaining about discounts now? C'mon...

Only that it's on an obsolete book, and seems like an attempt to clear out inventory that isn't selling otherwise because the rules are no longer useful. And it's going to be especially obnoxious if, as with previous obsolete books that got a discount (Vraks, for example), there's a new updated edition shortly after the stock of the old one is sold.

Fluff never becomes obsolete. You shouldn't buy those expensive books from the get go if you care only about rules.

But funny that for many people this game is more than rules. Rule wise 40k sucks anyway. Fluff is what keeps the game going.

**zedmeister**

Limited editions now sold out...