Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion

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**em_en_oh_pee**

zedmeister wrote:
Limited editions now sold out...

Damn that was fast!

**Uriels_Flame**

So is this the same red book in black and that's why it's special?

Or did I miss something?

And is this updated or can I continue using the army lists I have?

**gorgon**

tneva82 wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Are we complaining about discounts now? C'mon...

Only that it's on an obsolete book, and seems like an attempt to clear out inventory that isn't selling otherwise because the rules are no longer useful. And it's going to be especially obnoxious if, as with previous obsolete books that got a discount (Vraks, for example), there's a new updated edition shortly after the stock of the old one is sold.

Fluff never becomes obsolete. You shouldn't buy those expensive books from the get go if you care only about rules.

But funny that for many people this game is more than rules. Rule wise 40k sucks anyway. Fluff is what keeps the game going.

Betrayal also contains all the Isstvan 3 campaign material, so it's fairly obvious that it'll have value to some people even if the army list section is antiquated.

**ImAGeek**

Uriels_Flame wrote:
So is this the same red book in black and that's why it's special?

Or did I miss something?

And is this updated or can I continue using the army lists I have?

It's black leather bound (well faux leather I assume) to match the big fluff books. The contents are the same.

And this is updated, lots of units have little tweaks and points changes as far as I know.

**nudibranch**

Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

**em_en_oh_pee**

Please let Assault Squads be cheaper, please let Destroyers be cheaper! Come on Forge World, don't let us down!

**zedmeister**

em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Please let Assault Squads be cheaper, please let Destroyers be cheaper! Come on Forge World, don't let us down!

Add to that a change to the Cerberus: 3 shot (not D3), twin linked and doesn't have the annoying feedback rule. The Venator is just hands down superior in nearly every aspect..

**H.B.M.C.**

gorgon wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Are we complaining about discounts now? C'mon...

Only that it's on an obsolete book, and seems like an attempt to clear out inventory that isn't selling otherwise because the rules are no longer useful. And it's going to be especially obnoxious if, as with previous obsolete books that got a discount (Vraks, for example), there's a new updated edition shortly after the stock of the old one is sold.

Fluff never becomes obsolete. You shouldn't buy those expensive books from the get go if you care only about rules.

But funny that for many people this game is more than rules. Rule wise 40k sucks anyway. Fluff is what keeps the game going.

Betrayal also contains all the Isstvan 3 campaign material, so it's fairly obvious that it'll have value to some people even if the army list section is antiquated.

Give it a few hours guys. I'm sure Perry's already gearing up to tell us that we're wrong.

**Tannhauser42**

nudibranch wrote:
Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

Unlimited? Nah, I'm pretty sure they can only take one each, as a dozen heavy weapons duct-taped onto a single jetbike would look rather silly.

Anyhoo, yeah, that certainly didn't take long to sell out. That's what I get for sleeping late today (well, I am on vacation). Got my red version ordered, though.

**zedmeister**

nudibranch wrote:
Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

I reckon they'll be akin to flying rapiers - graviton cannon, laser destroyer and quad heavy bolters...

Also, posted on Forgeworld facebook a while back but not here:

**nudibranch**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
nudibranch wrote:
Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

Unlimited? Nah, I'm pretty sure they can only take one each, as a dozen heavy weapons duct-taped onto a single jetbike would look rather silly.

Anyhoo, yeah, that certainly didn't take long to sell out. That's what I get for sleeping late today (well, I am on vacation). Got my red version ordered, though.

.. I meant that as in any can replace their heavy bolter with a different weapon (culverin, plasma cannon etc.) Instead of 1 in 3...

**Kirasu**

zedmeister wrote:
nudibranch wrote:
Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

I reckon they'll be akin to flying rapiers - graviton cannon, laser destroyer and quad heavy bolters...

Also, posted on Forgeworld facebook a while back but not here:

Spoiler:

**Uriels_Flame**

Cheaper Warders would be great for me

**Yaraton**

It looks like an upgrade for Skitarii.

**Tannhauser42**

Yaraton wrote:
It looks like an upgrade for Skitarii.

Yeah, those are the new Mechanicum dudes we've seen previews of before.

**ImAGeek**

Kirasu wrote:
zedmeister wrote:
nudibranch wrote:
Still no word on what the new jetbikes are? Gonna guess they're just regular jetbikes with unlimited heavy weapon upgrade options.

I reckon they'll be akin to flying rapiers - graviton cannon, laser destroyer and quad heavy bolters...

Also, posted on Forgeworld facebook a while back but not here:

Spoiler:

**zedmeister**

Just noticed, in the iBooks preorder, there's a few sample pages. The Falchion gets a Neutron wave capacitor and the Salamanders new rite from VI is shown...?

**Zuul**

Woke up today to see the new book out and sold out. Not sure I want to spend my hard earned money on one of those red abominations.

**ImAGeek**

Zuul wrote:
Woke up today to see the new book out and sold out. Not sure I want to spend my hard earned money on one of those red abominations.

What's wrong with them?

**kronk**

I guess I was playing want t a month and buy one at GenCon.

Missed out on the SE

**Nova_Impero**

I was wondering when we will get this on a tablet.

**zedmeister**

More snippets from Black Library:

Drop podding dreadnought talons with flamestorm cannons anyone?

**Zuul**

ImAGeek wrote:
Zuul wrote:
Woke up today to see the new book out and sold out. Not sure I want to spend my hard earned money on one of those red abominations.

What's wrong with them?

They are super RED and don't match the other books. Warm colours are something I can only handle in small doses, the black covers are much more preferable as a result.

**teban**

Uriels_Flame wrote:
Cheaper Warders would be great for me

Yeah... no. that didn't happen in the last update :(. I got the book and their price is still high as hell.

**MeanGreenStompa**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
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Also, did anyone else look at this drone and think how cool it would look as a Nurgle Warlord Titan head?

**em_en_oh_pee**

From today's bulletin:

Emperor’s Children Phoenix Power Spears

Night Lords Nostraman Chainglaives

They are "nearly ready". So, probably available at the next event or released after? No idea. Just speculating.

**Eiríkr**

Finally.

**ImAGeek**

Nice, hopefully they are all nearly ready (the DG Power Scythes and the UM Shields and Gladius set).

**Jamie24**

Does anybody have any idea what the Alpha legion upgrade weapons might be when they come to make/ design/ release them??

**Azreal13**

Not sure I like the arms sculpted as part of the Spears, might make posing tough, especially on what I had in mind for some.