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A lesbian mother who was ousted as a American boy scout leader because of her sexual orientation has slapped down 1980s action star Chuck Norris after he claimed gay people have no place in the scouting movement.
Jennifer Tyrrell, the former leader of her son's boy scouts troop in Bridgeport, Ohio, accused Norris of being "out of touch" after he wrote a column that accused President Obama of encouraging attempts trying to impose a "pro-gay" stance on the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) by stealth.
In a column for AmmoLand.com, a site dedicated to shooting-sports news, Norris, a well known gun-rights activist, suggested that the recent announcement by James Turley, a BSA national board member, that he will work to overturn a policy that bans gay scouts and gay scout leaders was an attempt to win favour with the Obama administration.
But the BSA's rules have faced growing criticism in recent months after Tyrrell was removed form her post in April.
Scout chiefs decided her sexual orientation "did not meet the high standards" set by the group. Her son, Cruz, was subsequently asked to leave the organisation as well.
Tyrrell challenged Norris to meet with her family and supporters to debate the issue.
She said: "Since I was ousted as a scout leader I have been flooded with support from local parents, scouts and hundreds of thousands of Americans. Chuck Norris is clearly out of touch and I'd like for him to sit down with my family and fellow scouting families who support us.
"My orientation wasn't an issue in my son's pack until the Boy Scouts made parents tell their children why their favourite den leader was no longer able to participate. With the US military, the Girls Scouts of the USA, the 4-H Club and the Boys & Girls Club among organizations that allow gay Americans the time is now to end the ban."
Nearly 300,000 people have signed an online petition on left-leaning social campaigning website Change.org calling on the BSA to change its policy of discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender scouts and leaders.
Tyrrell's case has also attracted support from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) and celebrity activists including Julianne Moore and Ellen DeGeneres.
In his article, Norris implies that the Obama administration has offered Turley political favours to carry out what the martial arts actor describes as the White House's pro-gay agenda.
"Is Turley working on his own initiative, or has the White House prodded him with perks and favours? Is it a coincidence that Turley is in tight cahoots with the White House and that he is the only BSA national board member in 100 years to oppose its pro-traditional family stance?"
Turley's statement opposing the policy, issued last month, stated: "I support the meaningful work of the Boy Scouts in preparing young people for adventure, leadership, learning and service, however the membership policy is not one I would personally endorse."
Turley, the chief executive of accountancy firm Ernst & Young, added. "I intend to continue to work from within the BSA Board to actively encourage dialogue and sustainable progress."
No matter what happens, Chuck Norris will always be superior Of course, Chuck Norris was arm wrestling with god when the universe was created, so that he has this view point shouldn't be that surprising
What I really do not understand is why her son was asked to leave the scouts?
The boy scouts policy of no homosexuals has been long known, but is it now that if you know and are related to any homosexuals you are also not allowed?
No matter what happens, Chuck Norris will always be superior Of course, Chuck Norris was arm wrestling with god when the universe was created, so that he has this view point shouldn't be that surprising
Chuck Norris is a far right mouthpiece and homophobe.
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Diesel > Norris...
Actually, know what... even Russell Brand is > Norris.
Im curious why people give a gak what a celebrity has to say about a certain issue. Now if he were running for a political office or something along those lines, then sure. But he isnt is he? So why do I give a damn about his moral view points? He must be a politician though, I agree with part of what he says (gun rights) and want to club him over the rest
I've read Chuck Norris' autobiography, and while I respect and admire the hardships he overcame in his youth, he is a bit of a tosser when it comes to his socio-political views.
Still, his opinion that gays have no place in scouting, while douchey, is not something he can/should be sued over IMO.
The Boy Scouts being sued for this is a different matter.
Ma55ter_fett wrote:I personally find it more outrageous that the upcoming Expendables 2 will be rated PG-13 because Chuck Norris doesn't like people swearing in movies.
errr. What?
I know why though that Jet Li wasn't allowed into the Expendables now! Its because he was good friends with Bruce Lee. So Chuck norris doesn't want anyone remembering who was the only man to beat him in combat. Bruce Lee!
Other than that.
I actually know a scout whose parents are lesbians. He became an Eagle Scout. Great kid. you can't discriminate the kid because the parents are gay. Thats stupid.
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:I personally find it more outrageous that the upcoming Expendables 2 will be rated PG-13 because Chuck Norris doesn't like people swearing in movies.
errr. What?
I know why though that Jet Li wasn't allowed into the Expendables now! Its because he was good friends with Bruce Lee. So Chuck norris doesn't want anyone remembering who was the only man to beat him in combat. Bruce Lee!
Other than that.
I actually know a scout whose parents are lesbians. He became an Eagle Scout. Great kid. you can't discriminate the kid because the parents are gay. Thats stupid.
“In Expendables 2, there was a lot of vulgar dialogue in the screenplay. For this reason, many young people wouldn’t be able to watch this. But I don’t play in movies like this. Due to that I said I won’t be a part of that if the hardcore language is not erased. Producers accepted my conditions and the movie will be classified in the category of PG-13.”
Ma55ter_fett wrote:I personally find it more outrageous that the upcoming Expendables 2 will be rated PG-13 because Chuck Norris doesn't like people swearing in movies.
errr. What?
I know why though that Jet Li wasn't allowed into the Expendables now! Its because he was good friends with Bruce Lee. So Chuck norris doesn't want anyone remembering who was the only man to beat him in combat. Bruce Lee!
Other than that.
I actually know a scout whose parents are lesbians. He became an Eagle Scout. Great kid. you can't discriminate the kid because the parents are gay. Thats stupid.
“In Expendables 2, there was a lot of vulgar dialogue in the screenplay. For this reason, many young people wouldn’t be able to watch this. But I don’t play in movies like this. Due to that I said I won’t be a part of that if the hardcore language is not erased. Producers accepted my conditions and the movie will be classified in the category of PG-13.”
Eh too bad for the kids in my opinion. I am 18 so it doesn't really affect that much just means I have little kids there -.-
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I find it interesting that Chuck Norris is talking about "young people" going to see his movie.
He does realize that he's an icon of the 80s and 90s, and that most people who would be interested in seeing his movies, especially people who will go see a movie because Chuck Norris is in it at this point are going to be at the very least in their mid to late 20s, right? I mean, if he doesn't want to be in a movie with a lot of cursing because he doesn' t like cursing, that'd be a slightly different matter.
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Shadowseer_Kim wrote:Also why are we asking Chuck Norris' opinion on boy scout affairs?
The internet created a joke format in which Chuck Norris' tough guy image was parodied with stupidly over the top tough guy claims. Chuck Norris confused being in these jokes with actually being relevant to the world, and started talking about stuff. Unfortunately the stuff that came out of his mouth was lovable, clueless Dad kind of stuff, but some pretty hateful bigotry, and he basically caused the jokes to stop being funny.
Mind you, I'm fairly convinced Chuck Norris never realised we only watched his movies in the 80s either because we were 7 years old and completely uncritical consumers of any action movies, or because we were teenagers and had a heavy sense of irony. I think he probably thinks the Missing in Action movies were good.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Cushing and Bruce Lee references already made. I am clearly not needed.
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That said, BSA is a private organization and can be jackasses if they want, but it's only to the detriment of their members and of the United States if they do. Gay kids and parents can and should benefit from Scouting, and the Troops can and should benefit from exposure to and bonding with their gay peers and neighbors. I'm pleased to see them start to change their stance.
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KingCracker wrote:Im curious why people give a gak what a celebrity has to say about a certain issue. Now if he were running for a political office or something along those lines, then sure. But he isnt is he? So why do I give a damn about his moral view points? He must be a politician though, I agree with part of what he says (gun rights) and want to club him over the rest
Unlike, say, Snooki's opinion, Chuck Norris is fairly politically active both with his celebrity and money, so in this case that would be why people would/should care.
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:Chuck Norris is a far right mouthpiece and homophobe.
I am a far left supporter who happens to be friends with a number of gay people, and I say that it's impossible for Norris to be awesome any more. He's gone too far by saying some people are worth less than others simply because they a) have less money or b) have a different sexual orientation. Neither of these can be helped: you're born with them or without them. This means that to be prejudice against either is as bad as being prejudice against someone because of the colour of their skin, and I would not be surprised if Norris has this prejudice as well. He is officially now Uncool.
MeanGreenStompa wrote:Chuck Norris is a far right mouthpiece and homophobe.
I am a far left supporter who happens to be friends with a number of gay people, and I say that it's impossible for Norris to be awesome any more. He's gone too far by saying some people are worth less than others simply because they a) have less money or b) have a different sexual orientation. Neither of these can be helped: you're born with them or without them. This means that to be prejudice against either is as bad as being prejudice against someone because of the colour of their skin, and I would not be surprised if Norris has this prejudice as well. He is officially now Uncool.
Are you saying that having money is something you are born with...? And that you cant change it....?
Confused.
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Shadowseer_Kim wrote:What I really do not understand is why her son was asked to leave the scouts?
The boy scouts policy of no homosexuals has been long known, but is it now that if you know and are related to any homosexuals you are also not allowed?
He wasn't. She was asked to quit being a scout leader, got her panties in a wad and pulled him out. This is an old story.
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KingCracker wrote:Im curious why people give a gak what a celebrity has to say about a certain issue.
This.
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Of course, Chuck Norris was arm wrestling with god when the universe was created, so that he has this view point shouldn't be that surprising 
