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Howdy all,

So by now everyones had the book/cards for close to a day. What kind of fun psychic combos (rolls pending, of course) have you come up with? So far I only have a couple:

Mephiston - Life Leech, endurance, Precognition - Ok, so we have a guy who regens wounds on a 5+... has FnP.... relentless (doesn't matter much for him), rerolls hits/wounds/saves, and can regen up to 2 wounds in the shooting phase (possibly rerolling his hits/wounds!). Not to mention a psychic hood, 2+ save, and T6/5 wounds.... he'll be stupidly hard to put down by anything other than the Swarmlord himself!

Mephiston - Iron Arm, forewarning, misfortune - EW mephiston: check. Possibly Str 9/T9, check. Opponents reroll successful invuns, check. Oh, did I mention he has a 4++?

Broodlord - Invisibility, Endurance - Possible FnP Stealers, or make them beat stuff up by having opponents at WS1.... ouch!

Any psyker - Objuration Mechanicum - AWESOME power if your running a flier heavy army... can take the fear out of Longfang packs and things; Oh, you hit my flier? REROLL! I can see this being a staple ally power for things like Necron Scythespammers

Tervigon - Iron Arm, Telekine Dome - The ability to give anything a 5+ cover save that deflects shots is great for those gaunt screens. And if you think you MAY encounter something that can assault you; iron arm will keep your tervi happy and alive!

What combos have you discovered?

Common, I can't be the only one tinkering with the new powers

You won't be able to pick them though? You pick a char as far as I remember and then get them randomly assigned?

Perfect Timing w/ GK Psykers. S10 AP1 Large Blast no covers save. Cast by a Inquisitor with a Psyocculum for BS10 vs Psykers. This is my psyker hunting unit.

Stoffer wrote:You won't be able to pick them though? You pick a char as far as I remember and then get them randomly assigned?

Even if they are random, there are still "good" combos to look out for. If you've rwad through the powers, some are better for certain units over others


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Coyote81 wrote:Perfect Timing w/ GK Psykers. S10 AP1 Large Blast no covers save. Cast by a Inquisitor with a Psyocculum for BS10 vs Psykers. This is my psyker hunting unit.

Vortex of doom.

And that's a nasty combo, especially with the new blast rules

Imperial Guard: Weaken Resolve with the Psyker Battle Squad and then Shriek with the Primaris Psyker. Goodbye scary deathstar unit!

tuebor wrote:Imperial Guard: Weaken Resolve with the Psyker Battle Squad and then Shriek with the Primaris Psyker. Goodbye scary deathstar unit!

Makes many people cry

Could someone please help me find the table that says which of the new Psychic Disciplines is available to which armies? The rulebook suggests this is to be found in each codex, but of course there are no codices written after the new rulebook. Is there a table in the rulebook (I can't find it)?

I don't have my rulebook on me, but there's an insert in the psychic card deck. I'm pretty sure the charts in the book as well...

IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

Testify wrote:IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

On the flip side, only one Sanctioned Psyker needs LoS to use Weaken Resolve, so you can hide the rest of the unit out of LoS, ensuring that only one dude dies to return fire.

I'm liking pretty much everything Telepathy + PBS related, as there really isn't a bum power in that discipline when things are potentially LD 2.

KestrelM1 wrote:

Testify wrote:IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

On the flip side, only one Sanctioned Psyker needs LoS to use Weaken Resolve, so you can hide the rest of the unit out of LoS, ensuring that only one dude dies to return fire.

I'm liking pretty much everything Telepathy + PBS related, as there really isn't a bum power in that discipline when things are potentially LD 2.

awesome

KestrelM1 wrote:

Testify wrote:IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

On the flip side, only one Sanctioned Psyker needs LoS to use Weaken Resolve, so you can hide the rest of the unit out of LoS, ensuring that only one dude dies to return fire.

I'm liking pretty much everything Telepathy + PBS related, as there really isn't a bum power in that discipline when things are potentially LD 2.

Egads... this is genius! Kinda want a detachment for my Blood Angels now... Psyker + PBS, a vet squad in vendetta... mmmm

Take 2 Farseers. One with the normal codex powers (doom, guide, fortune) and then another farseer with divination pool. Try to roll for for misfortune. Guide a shooty unit, doom and misfortune the target. Re-roll to hit, re-roll to wound, and target is forced to re-roll successful armour saves. Absolutely deadly. Use with any mass fire strength 6 unit (war walkers or warp spiders) or bladestorming Dire avengers.

KestrelM1 wrote:

Testify wrote:IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

On the flip side, only one Sanctioned Psyker needs LoS to use Weaken Resolve, so you can hide the rest of the unit out of LoS, ensuring that only one dude dies to return fire.

I'm liking pretty much everything Telepathy + PBS related, as there really isn't a bum power in that discipline when things are potentially LD 2.

That only works if they focus fire, your squad will have a nasty cover save though.

I definitely think Mephiston might be one of the best units to give up his standard powers. Divination seems awesome for him almost every power is useful.

Foreboding and Perfect timing you can always hand in for Precience which is like a better version of unleash rage since it works for all attacks so at the start of the game he can just cast it on a heavy weapons unit and later hand it out to himself or a nearby squad in combat.

Forewarning is godlike for mephy, +4 invul on a T6 char.
Misfortune is also great, its borderline instant win vs fateweaver armies as long as you have even reasonable ranged firepower to bring to bear once you strip his reroll.
Precognition is the best of all, rerolls on everything - with 3 powers its slightly better than a 50% chance youll get this every game.
Scriers gaze is good for BA as will to get DoA squads on the table turn 2 99% of the time.

Yeah you lose the jump pack but the powers might make up for it overall.

azala wrote:I definitely think Mephiston might be one of the best units to give up his standard powers. Divination seems awesome for him almost every power is useful.

Foreboding and Perfect timing you can always hand in for Precience which is like a better version of unleash rage since it works for all attacks so at the start of the game he can just cast it on a heavy weapons unit and later hand it out to himself or a nearby squad in combat.

Forewarning is godlike for mephy, +4 invul on a T6 char.
Misfortune is also great, its borderline instant win vs fateweaver armies as long as you have even reasonable ranged firepower to bring to bear once you strip his reroll.
Precognition is the best of all, rerolls on everything - with 3 powers its slightly better than a 50% chance youll get this every game.
Scriers gaze is good for BA as will to get DoA squads on the table turn 2 99% of the time.

Yeah you lose the jump pack but the powers might make up for it overall.

My thoughts exactly. Mephy lost a lot of his beatyness going to AP3. He can still beat MEQ's in the face super well just being himself, so whats the point of str 10 then? Unless your facing down lots of TWC or Grotesques, not much. Even then, you can ID things using his force weapon.

I dunno about combo but it was fun to use puppet master on enemy vehicles and have them shoot their buddies in rear armor. Might be even more fun vs vendetta and hydra spam armies or necron flyers of doom armies.

Also Mephiston is kinda gimped by the FAQ isn't he? It says he only gets to generate two powers not three. I see your combos have him with 3 powers so curious if that was stated in the psychic deck?

winterman wrote:I dunno about combo but it was fun to use puppet master on enemy vehicles and have them shoot their buddies in rear armor. Might be even more fun vs vendetta and hydra spam armies or necron flyers of doom armies.

Puppet Master is awesome. I used it on a doom scythe the other day and killed half a necron army.

Red Corsair wrote:

KestrelM1 wrote:

Testify wrote:IIRC PBS can no longer use soulstorm from inside a Chimera so those T3 5+ guys are going to have to be standing in the open to use Weaken Resolve. Don't expect them to get more than one spell off

On the flip side, only one Sanctioned Psyker needs LoS to use Weaken Resolve, so you can hide the rest of the unit out of LoS, ensuring that only one dude dies to return fire.

I'm liking pretty much everything Telepathy + PBS related, as there really isn't a bum power in that discipline when things are potentially LD 2.

That only works if they focus fire, your squad will have a nasty cover save though.

Nope, new casualty rules make it so only the Sanctioned Psyker that the enemy can see can be removed. The focus fire applies mainly to when different parts of the squad would have different cover saves.

Zid wrote:
Broodlord - Invisibility, Endurance - Possible FnP Stealers, or make them beat stuff up by having opponents at WS1.... ouch!

Any psyker - Objuration Mechanicum - AWESOME power if your running a flier heavy army... can take the fear out of Longfang packs and things; Oh, you hit my flier? REROLL! I can see this being a staple ally power for things like Necron Scythespammers

Just want to point out that Broodlords can't take Invisibility as it's a Warp Charge 2 power and the only ML2 Psyker in the Tyranid codex is the Swarmlord. Your best bet with a Broodlord are OM, TK Dome, and the various Bio buffs.

RogueRegault wrote:

Zid wrote:
Broodlord - Invisibility, Endurance - Possible FnP Stealers, or make them beat stuff up by having opponents at WS1.... ouch!

Any psyker - Objuration Mechanicum - AWESOME power if your running a flier heavy army... can take the fear out of Longfang packs and things; Oh, you hit my flier? REROLL! I can see this being a staple ally power for things like Necron Scythespammers

Just want to point out that Broodlords can't take Invisibility as it's a Warp Charge 2 power and the only ML2 Psyker in the Tyranid codex is the Swarmlord. Your best bet with a Broodlord are OM, TK Dome, and the various Bio buffs.

That really stinks, but makes sense I suppose. Would be pretty damn brutal....