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With the sudden surge of flyers we are expected to see, I thought of how will I combat this? Also,I was thinking about this allies matrix and I thought of adding orks to some of my lists. Unless you have skyfire, it seems volume of shots is the best solution to flyers.

One major way to do it volume of fire. Who excels at that? Orks. The change of only hitting on 6's has the least impact on orks as we were already used to only hitting on 5's to begin with. But, orks are not exactly friendly allies in the best of cases, this means they need to be kept away from your main force so you don't risk them sitting around and pouting.

My initial thought was:
Big Mek
barebones grot squad w/ runtherd
15 Lootas

The thought process being what is the cheapest way to get high volume Loota fire onto the board. Simply park these guys in a corner and let them do their thing.

After a little more thought, I was like "Why waste points on useless units." So, instead of grots, add a unit of shoota boys. With the new overwatch rules, shootas can really be a good area denial tool. Add a KFF or SAG to your Big Mek, and you now have a fairly cheap support by fire detachment to almost any army.

This is all theoryhammer so far as I have only had a chance to play one game so far with the new rules.

Thoughts?

Moar lootaz!

Lootas should be fine. Aegis Defence Lines manned by Grots might work well too.

don't other flyers hit flyers just fine? Dakka Jet

Lootas and Dakka Fightas with Fighta ace upgrade. Orks are actually in an okay position AA wise because the whole "need 6's to hit" doesn't matter when you can throw so many dice and most flyers are AV11-12.

I might suggest some Flakka Guns from FW, but they arent up to date yet and really with a BS2 theres not too much of a difference

But yea, use the dakka jet and anything else with tons of firepower

I wonder if Bomb Squigs can hit flyers. Just says "nearest enemy vehicle"...

You can't snap-fire anything that's not using your BS. Shooting at planes is snap-fire.

punt a bomb squig?

Jidmah wrote:You can't snap-fire anything that's not using your BS. Shooting at planes is snap-fire.

You don't "shoot" bomb squigs at all. They're just a wargear piece that you "release" and it runs and blows up. I admit, it makes no sense for bomb squigs to be able to hit planes, but there are plenty of things in the game that don't make sense.

streamdragon wrote:

Jidmah wrote:You can't snap-fire anything that's not using your BS. Shooting at planes is snap-fire.

You don't "shoot" bomb squigs at all. They're just a wargear piece that you "release" and it runs and blows up. I admit, it makes no sense for bomb squigs to be able to hit planes, but there are plenty of things in the game that don't make sense.

when squigs grow wings and fly... the answer is now 6th edition

I resolved to run a warphead and try for the melta power, since it auto hits, and then to run 15 TL rokkit deffkoptas. I should be fine.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/459012.page

made a topic on if bomb squigs can hit fliers from what i can tell i believe they can

streamdragon wrote:

Jidmah wrote:You can't snap-fire anything that's not using your BS. Shooting at planes is snap-fire.

You don't "shoot" bomb squigs at all. They're just a wargear piece that you "release" and it runs and blows up. I admit, it makes no sense for bomb squigs to be able to hit planes, but there are plenty of things in the game that don't make sense.

You can not snap fire anything that's not using your BS. Period. Besides, the FAQ says that you can not release bomb squigs during overwatch, which is snap-shooting.

Something that I just found in the tank-bustaz entry when looking this up:

Tankbusta bombs are just like krak grenades, except they have an armour penetration of 2d6+6.

Guess what? Tankbusta bombs can be thrown at monstrous creatures in close combat! Plus, you can throw them at vehicle 8" away, if you want 6+2d6 instead of S8 from your rokkits - or if you're wielding a tankhammer or PK.

I guess GW accidentally gave us melta guns