Which Army is the Winner in 6th ed ?

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**dante43dd**

As above, what do you think which army gets the most out of 6th edition ?

**Talamare**

Ask again in like 3-4 years

**timetowaste85**

Visually, on paper it's necrons. But play testing and generalship will decide in the end. Daemons got really good too. I hope GKs are dead. Space wolves too.

**DarkWind**

Given allies I don't see any one army having an advantage since most every army (except nids) can take a unit or two to make up for what the main force lacks..

**Clthomps**

Necrons. Hands down.

Glances on every 6. Night fighting every game means the lightning IC is going to see a ton of play. Jink helps them out a lot. I honestly can not think of a nerf that effects them....

**JohnnoM**

What aspects of daemons got good?

**Cain**

Necrons by far.

As an added note I know who lost by far BT....so sad, diddn't even get a cumlitative page thought the whole book, on top of a HORRIBLE faq.

**DakkaHammer**

Tau certainly got a huge boost. Though lack of target locks and no anti-air is a little sad, we still got all kinds of stuff; death by glance on light vehicles with pulse rifles, ignoring nightfight, overwatch, and RAILGUNS!

**Talamare**

You mean the latest book which was written with 6th edition in mind is good in 6th edition

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Just wait for more books to pop up

**Billagio**

Right now, necrons, but theyre also the only ones with a 6th ed codex...

**SoloFalcon1138**

Seriously, this is a waste of time. No one "won" 5th or any of the other editions.

**Spartan089**

Necrons, I mean 6 to glance, and they get fliers that can be taken as troop transports too. take 6 night scythes, 3 doom scythes, pop night fight and proceed to table your opponent.

**Lord Rogukiel**

I pity the fool who's codex is coming out last for 6th ed.

**azazel the cat**

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Seriously, this is a waste of time. No one "won" 5th or any of the other editions.

The Space Wolves, Imperial Guard and Grey Knights disagree with your sentiment.

**Bwolf999**

@Cain.

How have the BT been nerfed in 6th?

Wolf

**Hashulaman**

I love how I heard nothing but admiration at how Necrons were actually pretty balanced at not broken like GK. However, as of June 30th....... 1D4Chan put it best, Necrons are now a Rape train without brakes, and the irony of it all gives me a good chuckle.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Bwolf999 wrote:@Cain.

How have the BT been nerfed in 6th?

Wolf

No more Preferred Enemy, Emperor's Champion can't be the Warlord so we have to pay for an HQ, no Characters other than our HQs. Land Speeder Typhoons, one of our only good units, now has 2 Hull Points. Furious Charge no longer grants bonus I.

Buff-wise, we more or less only got the improved 2+ saves that everyone else got.

**Formosa**

seems like Tau and DW at the moment, those 2 have recieved some of the best buffs, not necessarily the biggest but it has made them rise from the bottom tier (i put DW up there with guard BA etc now) I'd put tau a solid mid tier now with the adition of allies

**Bwolf999**

@almighty Walrus

well It is kind of sucky that they decided to get rid of preffered enemy, but rage is pretty great IMO, and yeah it is pretty stupid that we HAVE to have 2 HQ's but I still feel that 6th hasnt nerfed them too much

Wolf

**DOOMBREAD**

I don't have the new rulebook, but I would say Necrons. I fear they may become the new GKs.

**Ugavine**

So, no-one is saying Tyranids then?

**valace2**

timetowaste85 wrote:Visually, on paper it's necrons. But play testing and generalship will decide in the end. Daemons got really good too. I hope GKs are dead. Space wolves too.

I have been playing Space Wolves since Space wolves came out in White Dwarf, I owned Rogue trader, and I still remember the original rules for Grey Knight terminators where the whole squad were Terminator Librarians, they were cool as hell. I just could never justify shelling out the money for an entire metal army.

An comments like yours bug the crap outa me.

**Steelmage99**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Bwolf999 wrote:@Cain.

How have the BT been nerfed in 6th?

No more Preferred Enemy,

BTs had access to army-wide Preferred Enemy, but did anybody really think they were going to keep that?!?
Everybody except the die-hard head-in-the-sand-types knew that this was coming.
You now have Rage instead, which isn't a bad ability at all.

Emperor's Champion can't be the Warlord so we have to pay for an HQ,

Just like he couldn't be a mandatory HQ (unless you played 750 or below) before. Nothing has changed.

no Characters other than our HQs

Yes, the changes to Characters has indeed hit BTs pretty hard. I will certainly give you that.

.

Land Speeder Typhoons, one of our only good units, now has 2 Hull Points.

This applies equally to every army that can take Typhoons

Furious Charge no longer grants bonus I.

Again this applies equally to every army in the game. My Orks don't enjoy hitting after Imperial Guardsmens either....thems the breaks.

Buff-wise, we more or less only got the improved 2+ saves that everyone else got.

Why did you assume that a buff was forthcoming, needed or indeed deserved?

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Seriously, this is a waste of time. No one "won" 5th or any of the other editions.

Grey Knights say hi

**imweasel**

Logan wing came out pretty darn good. Necrons probably got the biggest boost.

**marielle**

Tyranids.

**Ravenous D**

Well Nightscythes have been sold out locally since 6th came out soooo.... looks like an interesting edition ahead. It'll depend if Tournys allow allies and forts that will determine the new power.

And really if tournys let broken things like allies and forts in I dont see why forgeworld is still frowned upon.

**Lynata**

Depends on how you define "most", or what is important to you.

After looking at the rulebook and comparing the pagecounts and contents, I'm tempted to say "the same army that got the most out of all editions before - Space Marines".
Which sadly isn't surprising at all, tho.

**Locclo**

JohnnoM wrote:What aspects of daemons got good?

From what my friends have said regarding a recent game, it's the fact that winged daemons are now flying monstrous creatures, which are ridiculously difficult to bring down. When they stay in the air, they can only be hit on 6s (barring Skyfire), have high toughness, multiple wounds, and decent saves. We had one of our resident daemon players play a game against one of our resident IG players, and the daemon player absolutely wiped the floor with him. IIRC, the daemon player had him tabled by turn 3.

Overall, I'd say that Daemons got a boost, Tau got a decent boost (mostly because getting charged isn't an automatic death sentence now, what with overwatch potentially stopping a charge dead in its tracks) and Necrons are damned powerful with virtually everything in their codex able to take on vehicles in one form or another. Judging by a few of our games, IG got a hair nastier too, since Leman Russes are now not only capable of dealing with vehicles, but able to do damage to multiple vehicles at once, depending on how close they are to each other. Had a game with IG and Necrons against Chaos and Wolves, and the IG just shredded every transport within a couple of turns.

**evildrspock**

Eldar I have since 6th came out played one game, and destroyed a Deathwing Dark Angels army with My Jetbike Mechdar (VP 11-2, had one model left). Eldar definitely have recieved a lot more boosts then nerfs, with increased movement distances, better firing for fast skimmers, Eldar Jetbikes moving 36" total with a flat-out move - not to mention lots of previously "bad" Eldar units are now viable again. (see swooping hawks, Vypers, etc).