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I've been starting 40k and read the codex for IG. The Master of Ordnance has an attack listed as "Ordnance Barrage 1" but doesn't specify a large or small template. It does refer to scattering of -a- template, but I'm not sure what size.

I've seen posts saying the MoO is effectively a Basilisk, which implies it uses a large template, but I don't see the rule anywhere.

Hmm... you appear to be correct. It is not clarified. However the weapon stats are the same as the basilisk and the rules and points cost are too stringent for the smaller blast marker.


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The new rulebook also seems to miss this bit of info off the description of Orbital Barrage...

I did a google and there was some talk about a "page 58" indicating that any non-specified ordnance is automatically large template.

It's not page 58 in my codex, and the 6th edition page 58 is just pictures, so I'm assuming this is a line from 5th edition.

Look at the rules for Ordnance in the BRB. Should be there.

ArthurDubya wrote:I did a google and there was some talk about a "page 58" indicating that any non-specified ordnance is automatically large template.

It's not page 58 in my codex, and the 6th edition page 58 is just pictures, so I'm assuming this is a line from 5th edition.

Yeah, 5th Ed. said on p58 that unless specified, all "Ordnance Blast" weapons used the large blast marker.

While not exactly a source for reliable 6th Ed. rulings, unless someone knows of a similar rule in the new book it's all we have to go on.


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SlaveToDorkness wrote:Look at the rules for Ordnance in the BRB. Should be there.

The example Ordnance weapon (Battlecannon) uses the large blast special rules, but nowhere in the ordnance rules does it say to always do so for all Ordnance weapons.

I know I'll play this as a large template, but I just want some hard line I can show an opposing player if he decides to question it.

Index in 6th edition points me to page 51 for "ordnance weapons", where it describes them as being huge, powerful, mounted on tanks, etc and says I get to roll two dice to penetrate a vehicle's armor and pick the highest result (hey! I didnt' know that!) but does not mention any large or small templates.

I did read elsewhere that a FAQ was posted saying the MoO fires a round similar to the stats of an Eartshaker, but I haven't been able to find this online.


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I also just checked the pages for "Barrage", and the previously mentioned "is a large blast unless specified' line is not there either.


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Did some more research, and a supposed link to a GW article stating the Eartshaker round=MoO round is broken. :(