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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 23:33:52
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Figured id share this article from Yahoo news. Written by Chris Morris. All credits to him and Yahoo News.
Quite shocking honestly, just take a break for the night...jeez.
The years of anticipation for Diablo III have brought about a number of marathon play sessions since its release on May 15, but one fan's obsession with the game has proven fatal.
An 18-year old Diablo III player in Taiwan was found dead recently after a 40-hour marathon session with the game, reports the Australian Associated Press.
The player, who has only been identified as Chuang, reportedly booked a room at his local Internet café before diving into the game, not stopping for sleep or food the entire time. An employee of the café found him passed out on a table Sunday.
[Related: Diablo III sets PC sales record]
He woke up when approached, but collapsed after a few steps and was rushed to a hospital where he was later pronounced dead. An autopsy is pending, but authorities noted that the long period of sitting still could have created blood clots, which proved fatal.
Sadly, it's not the first game-marathon-related death in Taiwan this year. In February, Chen Rong-yu had a fatal heart attack while playing in an Internet café in Taipei while playing online smash hit, League of Legends. Fellow players, though, didn't notice he had died for another nine hours.
Deaths in Internet cafes are rare, but happen from time to time when players concentrate so intensely on their games, that they ignore factors like the body's need for sleep and food.
Last year, a 30 year-old Chinese gamer died after staying up for three consecutive days, barely eating or drinking anything. And last August, 20 year-old Chris Staniforth suffered a pulmonary embolism after a marathon session on his Xbox.
The deaths underscore the risk of game addiction, which more and more people are becoming worried about as the industry grows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 00:34:46
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Sadly, it's not the first game-marathon-related death in Taiwan this year. In February, Chen Rong-yu had a fatal heart attack while playing in an Internet café in Taipei while playing online smash hit, League of Legends. Fellow players, though, didn't notice he had died for another nine hours.
Wow, he must have really sucked at league.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 01:30:25
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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SMHV.
I seriously consider all video game related deaths to fall into the Darwin Awards category. How stupid can someone be?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 01:46:01
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Amaya wrote:SMHV.
I seriously consider all video game related deaths to fall into the Darwin Awards category. How stupid can someone be?
Yea i agree, if these people didnt get addicted to video games like that it would have been drugs/sex/thrills and they would have eventually had the same fate. That kind of addictive personality is always going to lead to trouble..... ehhhhhh..... what did we pay for the new rule book again... lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 03:52:27
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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The other side of the internet
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Wargaming hasn't taken anyone's life yet. Now that everything is finecast I think GW players may be safe though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 03:53:30
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Surtur wrote:Wargaming hasn't taken anyone's life yet.
I wouldn't be so quick to say that; who knows what resides in the catacombs beneath Nottingham...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 03:58:50
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Amaya wrote:SMHV.
I seriously consider all video game related deaths to fall into the Darwin Awards category. How stupid can someone be?
Video gaming in Asia is HARD core. The pro leagues are brutal up there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:01:15
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Surtur wrote:Wargaming hasn't taken anyone's life yet. Now that everything is finecast I think GW players may be safe though. I would disagree with that. I bet you that someone in the world during its 99 year history (first miniwarge is arguably H. G. Wells LIttle Wars) that somebody has either murder over it, or some guy chocked on a model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:02:19
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Gives a new meaning of "Do or die" mentality...Hell he might hae pissed off the Devil and he came to collect the soul
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:12:29
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Surtur wrote:Wargaming hasn't taken anyone's life yet.
I saw some close calls back when GW stocked the big 100 pound Warhammer Quest boxed game and foolishly (or sadistically) put them on the higher shelves.
Also, when DreadFleet was released there were Black Friday at Walmart-like riots at the GW Bunker in Bowie and people almost got trampled. Heard reports it was like that at other GWs worldwide. Or it may have been when Dreadfleet was pulled from the shelves to get it out of the store.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:13:56
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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LOL hey Nels I might have played against you in the Bowie Bunker with my Tau. Only at team matches on Sat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:14:32
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Jihadin wrote:Gives a new meaning of "Do or die" mentality...Hell he might hae pissed off the Devil and he came to collect the soul Most likely it would have interrupted his game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:21:00
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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He could have at least picked a better game...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 04:36:21
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Is it just me, or is it hard to care when somebody dies of something this stupid? I mean, when an innocent dies from gang warfare, it's tragic and sad beyond belief (I'm 100% serious here), but when an idiot dies from not getting up from playing his video game and his body starts shutting down...I just feel like it's Earth's way of cleaning out the genepool. Seriously, I just hope he passed on before he could pass on his seed. We don't need that genetic makeup dirtying up already muddied water...
Seriously Dakka, you guys make me sound like a real insensitive prick here-so many deaths are discussed here, and so many hate-crimes happen, and I'm slightly worse than apathetic to this guy passing on, and I feel like that Kansas minister who wanted the government to kill homosexuals seriously needs to die for his hate-speech, as well as a continuous group of others. Can't you guys discuss flowers and goodness for once? Lol. I want to be the nice guy...you guys just make it so hard at times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 05:27:17
Subject: Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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timetowaste85 wrote:Is it just me, or is it hard to care when somebody dies of something this stupid? I mean, when an innocent dies from gang warfare, it's tragic and sad beyond belief (I'm 100% serious here), but when an idiot dies from not getting up from playing his video game and his body starts shutting down...I just feel like it's Earth's way of cleaning out the genepool. Seriously, I just hope he passed on before he could pass on his seed. We don't need that genetic makeup dirtying up already muddied water...
Seriously Dakka, you guys make me sound like a real insensitive prick here-so many deaths are discussed here, and so many hate-crimes happen, and I'm slightly worse than apathetic to this guy passing on, and I feel like that Kansas minister who wanted the government to kill homosexuals seriously needs to die for his hate-speech, as well as a continuous group of others. Can't you guys discuss flowers and goodness for once? Lol. I want to be the nice guy...you guys just make it so hard at times. 
Being stupid=/=deserving to die
Furthermore, you think that its a good thing when dumb people die, because it keeps the human race genetically 'clean' or whatever. So do you think I'd be good if the government went out and killed all the people with learning disorders, even well intentioned and innocent people who'd done nothing wrong but stand in the way of genetic 'purity'?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 05:34:13
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Jihadin wrote:LOL hey Nels I might have played against you in the Bowie Bunker with my Tau. Only at team matches on Sat
Not I sir. I work on Saturdays, unfortunately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 05:35:11
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The only shocking thing about this is that the guy was Taiwanese and not Korean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 05:40:13
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LoneLictor wrote:timetowaste85 wrote:Is it just me, or is it hard to care when somebody dies of something this stupid? I mean, when an innocent dies from gang warfare, it's tragic and sad beyond belief (I'm 100% serious here), but when an idiot dies from not getting up from playing his video game and his body starts shutting down...I just feel like it's Earth's way of cleaning out the genepool. Seriously, I just hope he passed on before he could pass on his seed. We don't need that genetic makeup dirtying up already muddied water... Seriously Dakka, you guys make me sound like a real insensitive prick here-so many deaths are discussed here, and so many hate-crimes happen, and I'm slightly worse than apathetic to this guy passing on, and I feel like that Kansas minister who wanted the government to kill homosexuals seriously needs to die for his hate-speech, as well as a continuous group of others. Can't you guys discuss flowers and goodness for once? Lol. I want to be the nice guy...you guys just make it so hard at times.  Being stupid=/=deserving to die Furthermore, you think that its a good thing when dumb people die, because it keeps the human race genetically 'clean' or whatever. So do you think I'd be good if the government went out and killed all the people with learning disorders, even well intentioned and innocent people who'd done nothing wrong but stand in the way of genetic 'purity'? You are really taking what he said out of context. He never said that the government should kill him, or keeping the human race clean. Also does that men we should feel sorry for the kid who had no common sense, and sad down on a computer for 40 hours straight? Its no different than a guy drinking and driving and gets himself killed, I am not happy about his death, but I am not going to feel sorry for him either. Same goes for the kid. Actions have consequences. Also there is a big difference between a learning disability, and somebody being to stupid to take a break from a 40 hour video game session.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 07:34:49
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Yeah. I am going to take the moderate position of this kid was an idiot who deserved to die. When you look at the long scope of human history, and people enduring beyond comprehension their toils and tribulations, surviving ridiculous struggles and nonsense - and this ass can't be bothered to stand up every twelve hours and stretch.... Total, Hardcore, Lack, Of, Sympathy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 08:06:50
Subject: Re:Taiwanese teen dies after 40 hour diablo three marathon
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Surtur wrote:Sadly, it's not the first game-marathon-related death in Taiwan this year. In February, Chen Rong-yu had a fatal heart attack while playing in an Internet café in Taipei while playing online smash hit, League of Legends. Fellow players, though, didn't notice he had died for another nine hours.
Wow, he must have really sucked at league.
I know I shouldn't but I had to chuckle at that one.
Although as others have noted, as these are certainly cases of 'Darwin award' fatalities, I'm not too worried for my psyche.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 11:28:23
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Why have I got the feeling that once this goes mainstream news, there will be a tirade of 'concerned mothers' asking for a blanket ban on video games before every child in the civilised world meets a similar end?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 11:42:00
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Sorry, but I have to ask: Did he drop any good loot?
Ok, in all seriousness, How can you let that happen? I mean, how can you just stay sat playing one game for all that time and not eat, drink, feel the need to move, etc? I don't understand how you cannot feel the need to stop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 11:45:06
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How can you not get up though?
I occasionally raid in wow, but I dislike them because they last for 4 hours, so I do it less these days, but even then, it used to seriously piss me off sitting still for so long, so I get up every half hour to stretch my legs or say " brb bathroom" just to take a minute to splash some cold water on my face and get a drink or something.. I cant fathom how you can be so engrossed in a game you just fething sit there for 12 hours, let alone 40!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 11:47:15
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^ Aye this.
I'm a WoW player, although I don't raid a whole lot, I have been known to loose four of five hours to it on the odd day. However, tea breaks, walking off to grab a snack. Popping outside for fresh air etc seem par for the course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 12:16:12
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This kid sounds like he was living the life of an average cubicle worker, exept he was playing a video game instead of manipulating spreadsheets and PowerPoint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 12:21:34
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In more positive news, my daughter has beaten five of the monsters in Shadow of the Colossus and didn't need a 40 hour marathon to do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 17:07:46
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Poor guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 17:55:08
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Surtur wrote:Wargaming hasn't taken anyone's life yet. Now that everything is finecast I think GW players may be safe though.
While i agree with the sentiment. I think you'll find anything is possible. I have an addictive personality I get way to into things, sometimes they have been very bad for me. I can play a game of 40k or fantasy and be so into it that i will not notice that i'm hungry until after the game. Hence this is why i don't play RPG's anything with a break in it allows me to separate from it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 18:03:43
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Fafnir wrote:He could have at least picked a better game... "Group of 4 friends die after week-long Snakes and Ladders game" Parents arrived back from a holiday to discover that their son and his 3 friends had tragically perished during their trip. "I just couldn't believe it," says father of one of the boys, "None of them managed to get past the second row, I just can't believe these boys were that unlucky." Pictured: the locations of the 4 counters at varying points on the bottom row of the game board, and the 'snake eyes' dice roll that must have plagued their game. The boys' bodies have been removed and autopsies will take place later on today to determine the cause of death, although early speculation suggests that the boys were using a brand of Chessex dice, widely known for bad rolls in many board games. The executive director of Chessex has declined to comment on the deaths, only stating that they will co-operate fully with Police. An investigation into just how this game is still allowed to be marketed, despite the obvious health risks, will take place later today, and may drag on for many months, with both sides refusing the back down. One man angered by the fact that games such as 'Snakes and Ladders' are still on supermarket shelves stated that "the Government has been too slow in reacting to the dangers of board games", and that "this game [Snakes and Ladders] is aimed at the most vulnerable in society, the children, and this practice must be stopped". Others, however, disagree, claiming that "board games are simply the latest victim in the war on entertainment" and that "they [board games] pose about as much threat to public health as eating a ham sandwich." Whatever the outcome of this investigation, the deaths of these 4 boys at the hands of a simple board game will forever haunt the halls of the industry, and share prices in companies that produce these games have already been predicted to take a sharp fall over the course of the coming days. Also in the news: Ham Sandwiches under fire from top health expert, Professor Plum. Battleships in line for targeting upgrades. Debate over proper nouns becomes a desperate scrabble. New dictionary submission boggles the world of language. Rev. Green on church lead piping thefts. Ms. Scarlet remanded in custody after suspicious library death.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/20 18:38:08
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Very nice. Exalted.
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
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