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Well, this is sad news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

In addition to that, Fox is reporting one has been captured, but I really hope they catch the missing one, scumbags is all I can say really without being banned.

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Some idiot on ABC was talking about how we need to revisit security, maybe put metal detectors up and all that gak. I say feth YOU PUSSY dill weed.

Two shooters, at least one with a rifle, and using gas. Sounds like Terror Terror to me.

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I'd imagine he'll be falling up and down the station stairs right about now.

I'm surprised one of them got away.

   
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Reports are now saying it was one shooter. With that many hits though? I'll wait until more evidence comes in, but right now I don't believe it.
SOunds like seriously bad gak though. Gas thrown in and in confusion started firing away.

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Yeah, when I first linked that this morning, it was about five lines of info. Much more information about it coming out now.

If i seemed a bit ticked off earlier by the way in the manner I posted it. well as a father, and the suggestion (not sure if its changed since) that children where among the victims. This kind of ego boosting 'I want to be famous' killing really gets under my skin.

Especially at a place like that, where families would be going to destress, relax or just have fun watching a movie for a few hours.

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Frazzled wrote:Some idiot on ABC was talking about how we need to revisit security, maybe put metal detectors up and all that gak. I say feth YOU PUSSY dill weed.

Two shooters, at least one with a rifle, and using gas. Sounds like Terror Terror to me.


Well, plenty of people have a rifle, and there are plenty of mass shootings which are not politically terrorism related. For example, the Breikvik shooting was individual terrorism but really it was just a lone wolf. This was probably a lone wolf.

Unfortunately, a modern society cannot function with the level of security seen at airline departure lounges. It has been studied in the UK for use on the London Underground, and it simply is not logistically possible.

It would be even worse in the USA, where you need to allow for most people legitimately to be carrying guns.

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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12850048-12-shot-dead-at-dark-knight-rises-screening-in-aurora-colorado

More info.

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ABC News have named one James Holmes, 24, of North Aurora, as the man arrested at the scene of the Denver cinema massacre during the midnight screening of the The Dark Knight Rises, wearing a a bullet-proof vest and riot helmet. He was captured in the car park outside the cinema with a gas mask, rifle, and handgun. And it is his apartment block which has been evacuated and searched as a result of fears of further action.

I am investigating whether a James Holmes of Denver, a friend of a Facebook friend of mine, is the same man.

It is also likely that questions about the Batman character and franchise itself will soon start to be asked publicly. One witness report that the shooting was timed to match shooting on the screen is a haunting one.


http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/20/dark-knight-massacre-suspect-named-as-james-holmes/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedingCool+%28Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%26+Rumors%29



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... Take a moment to consider what you're going to post please people. Bear in mind this is an as yet still unfolding tragedy, time and a place eh chaps/chappesses yes ? Thanks.

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Hmmmmm... I wonder if some US politician will now demand a ban on bullets like a certain Toronto council member has demanded.

But seriously, this is just getting beyond stupid! First the TEC shooting last month, then the Danzig street mass shooting on Monday and now this mass shooting in Denver?! WTF is up with these useless idiot gakheads?!
I say the cops should have just shot him on sight and save the taxpayers the couple million that'll be blown on his trial.

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Bush had the right of it after the Virginia tech shootings, what the Americans need to do is make sure that MORE people have guns, so they can defend themselves better!

Or maybe, ignore the bible thumpers and the NRA and start to treat firearms like they do in the rest of the civilised world, and cut your shootings down by 90%

Either or, I'm happy with both personally, If I move, I'm getting a permit to carry and Ill wear body armour to the movies!

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And now people with their personal axes to grind start up.


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Wo there was a three month old baby there. Who the brings a three month old to a Batman movie???

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Dontcha think maybe someone should have asked him why he was carrying a rifle into the theatre?

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snurl wrote:Dontcha think maybe someone should have asked him why he was carrying a rifle into the theatre?


Evidently:
1. He came in through the emergency entrance, wearing a gas mask. He threw in a tear gas bomb (no info if homemade but one report noteted "cannister" which opens a whole new bag of worms); and came in shooting along the main aisle especially at people trying to escape. At point of writing 20ish shots. Some witnesses thought he initially was targeting a specific area but this doesn't sound specific.

2. As an aside the theater was posted-no conceal carry. People legally carrying couldn't do so in that theater.

3. Again as an aside there were multiple kids in the theater. Again who brings elementary aged or under kids to a Nolan style Batman movie? Whats the encore - Deer Hunter?

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Things like these just shouldn't be reported at all. The motivations for these things are ALWAYS a desire for fame/to be understood and evaluated on tv by all the talking heads. Pyscologists are in no doubt about this.

The media is creating the market for this bs.

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Experiment 626 wrote:Hmmmmm... I wonder if some US politician will now demand a ban on bullets like a certain Toronto council member has demanded.

But seriously, this is just getting beyond stupid! First the TEC shooting last month, then the Danzig street mass shooting on Monday and now this mass shooting in Denver?! WTF is up with these useless idiot gakheads?!
I say the cops should have just shot him on sight and save the taxpayers the couple million that'll be blown on his trial.


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unbelieveable. I stand a better chance here in getting kill then overseas....and I'm unarmed here

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Frazzled wrote:And now people with their personal axes to grind start up.


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Wo there was a three month old baby there. Who the brings a three month old to a Batman movie???


Was that addressed to me? I don't have an axe to grind.. I like guns!

I'm just saying, you know.. in the US every fether gets shot because there are guns everywhere. Common sense says to me that everyone being tooled up is fething stupid.

Its hardly an axe to grind, I like guns, and If I move to CA im getting myself one.

Well maybe two. Walking around in the US without a gun seems pretty dumb in this day and age!

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Frazzled wrote:Some idiot on ABC was talking about how we need to revisit security, maybe put metal detectors up and all that gak. I say feth YOU PUSSY dill weed.

Two shooters, at least one with a rifle, and using gas. Sounds like Terror Terror to me.


What's that sound I hear? Oh, yeah, it's Alex Jones saying "I told you so!". This is a false flag two for one deal. More fedgov stormtroopers on the streets and another excuse to get rid of the second amendment. Yay....

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Frazzled wrote:Reports are now saying it was one shooter. With that many hits though? I'll wait until more evidence comes in, but right now I don't believe it.
SOunds like seriously bad gak though. Gas thrown in and in confusion started firing away.

From the way reports are coming, it makes sense there was an assumption of an accomplice.

One witness stated that he saw an individual "appearing to talk upon a cell phone" and then walk out the emergency exit that the shooter used.

Another witness has stated that the shooter was very "calm and methodical", wearing a gas mask so he could continue to see and apparently only firing a shot when he had one.


Makes me fething sick to think about all this. This had to have been planned out far in advance, and the fact that seemingly the shooter stashed his equipment outside on the premises is worrying.
   
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Jihadin wrote:unbelieveable. I stand a better chance here in getting kill then overseas....and I'm unarmed here


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Yeah, that theater is about 15 mins from me, it's refered to as the Belmar movie theater. Been getting texts and PMs all morning.

The guys was very methodical from reports tossed tear gas canisters and went to town while wearing a Joker T-Shirt. The audience didn't have a chance to react as at first they though it was part of the show, until the canister explosions went off.

He was toting a "rifle", shotgun, and some pistols. The investigation at his place had no evidence of bomb materials, but there were a LOT of guns and "buckets of bullets".

Apparently in CO we breed crazy through stress? Dude was 24you with no prior criminal history.

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mattyrm wrote:
Frazzled wrote:And now people with their personal axes to grind start up.


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Wo there was a three month old baby there. Who the brings a three month old to a Batman movie???


Was that addressed to me? I don't have an axe to grind.. I like guns!

I'm just saying, you know.. in the US every fether gets shot because there are guns everywhere. Common sense says to me that everyone being tooled up is fething stupid.

Its hardly an axe to grind, I like guns, and If I move to CA im getting myself one.

Well maybe two. Walking around in the US without a gun seems pretty dumb in this day and age!


You won't ":get rid of the guns." All you'll do is restrict legal owners. Again, its already illegal to go around blowing stuff up, and the theater was being all PC with the No CC posting.
Frazzled resists the urge to note this stuff never seems to occur in police stations or at the local pistol competition.


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Frazzled wrote:Reports are now saying it was one shooter. With that many hits though? I'll wait until more evidence comes in, but right now I don't believe it.
SOunds like seriously bad gak though. Gas thrown in and in confusion started firing away.

From the way reports are coming, it makes sense there was an assumption of an accomplice.

One witness stated that he saw an individual "appearing to talk upon a cell phone" and then walk out the emergency exit that the shooter used.

Another witness has stated that the shooter was very "calm and methodical", wearing a gas mask so he could continue to see and apparently only firing a shot when he had one.


Makes me fething sick to think about all this. This had to have been planned out far in advance, and the fact that seemingly the shooter stashed his equipment outside on the premises is worrying.


yea thats crazy...organized. Right now we'll default to crazy.
Further reports note his residence was indeed boobytrapped when the police went to check it out.

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I'm just waiting for the people to start blaming the movie for everything, ala "He took inspiration from the Joker/Bane!!!!"

And then it will be a S**t-storm of an avalanche that ruins the movie (and all others like it) for the rest of use people who plan on seeing it like adults and then NOT planning on hurting anyone.

It'll be a case of blame something other than the crazy person who wronged everyone. In the same way that "spoons make me fat", lol.




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The template isn't "the movie did it." The template is "right wing media" did it. Brian Ross of ABC News needs to do journalism a favor and quit. It's one thing to have a political agenda but trying to link the shooting to the Tea Party is just despicable. I would like to see news shows REPORT the news instead of trying to "spin" it.

 
   
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That's interesting, because I saw this....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat


James Holmes, the suspect arrested in connection with the mass shootings at a screening of the new Batman movie early this morning in Aurora, CO, could be a registered Democrat, according to documents obtained by Breitbart News. Earlier, ABC News' Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos speculated on Good Morning America that Holmes was a Tea Party member, based solely on a name appearing on a Tea Party website.
The James Holmes for whom Breitbart News has obtained documentation is 25 years old (the suspect has been reported as 24 years old). He has links to addresses in both Colorado and San Diego, where his mother has been reported to be from, according to news reports. He was issued a traffic citation in 2011--his sole run-in with the law. The same is true for the suspect arrested in connection with the shootings, according to reports. Update: Fox News reports that the suspect has a California-issued social security number, as does the man in the documents obtained by Breitbart News--a significant correlation, assuming the sources are independent.

Furthermore, the James Holmes for whom records were obtained by Breitbart News registered as a Democrat on June 14, 2011. He registered from an address in La Plata County, Colorado, and his status is listed as "inactive."

Breitbart News has not confirmed that this James Holmes is in fact the suspect, but the details above appear to match closely. There are certainly more facts in our documents than in ABC News' irresponsible speculations.



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Just look at the comments on the Washington Post. It was immediate.

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