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2012/07/25 13:07:37
Subject: [Poll] Which surviving loyalist Primarch is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Who among the remaining loyalist Primarchs would be best suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium should they return? This does not include Guilliman, since he already gave up that position, and since we're not exactly sure he's even alive - his fluff states he's frozen in stasis at the moment of death. I vote Lion, because for all intents and purposes he's King Arthur - the King/Primarch who sleeps until Britain/the Imperium need him once again.
EDIT: No more Creed or other gak...we stick to Primarchs from now on.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 13:11:12
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that 
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/07/25 13:15:49
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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That being said, Lion'el Johnson was nearly given the title of warmaster when the Emprah was still leading the crusade, however Horus won the job due to being the favorite of the Emprah.
So, more likely than not, Johnson would be the best candidate.
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Bedouin Dynasty:  10000 pts
The Silver Lances:  4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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2012/07/25 13:17:00
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Testify wrote:Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that
Because only a Primarch has the qualifications for the job. In any case, why not? Its not like the High Lords of Terra would be disbanded. None of the Primarchs (well, maybe Russ) would be stupid enough to start a civil war by disbanding the council and declaring themselves Imperial Regent, and certainly none of the High Lords would be stupid enough to pass up the chance for some real leadership when the Imperium is beset by so many crises.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 13:18:36
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Gulliman.... you know the fella who had his own mini imperium..thats you know... better than the regular one
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2012/07/25 13:23:44
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Corax. Vulkan seems like he is that humble guy who doesn't want to be in a position of power. And so would pass it up.
Russ is too passionate.
Johnson is way too distrustful and brooding.
Khan would be my second pick, but he would strive for power through force and care more for martial prowess and brutality than intelligence and peace.
Corax is left. He's super smart, and seems pretty Objective in his decision making, caring about what is best overall. Utilitarian some could argue but that is what the imperium needs.
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2012/07/25 13:25:09
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/8804-.html
'nuff said
yeah yeah I know he's dead but I can dream..
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2012/07/25 13:26:52
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that
Because only a Primarch has the qualifications for the job. In any case, why not? Its not like the High Lords of Terra would be disbanded. None of the Primarchs (well, maybe Russ) would be stupid enough to start a civil war by disbanding the council and declaring themselves Imperial Regent, and certainly none of the High Lords would be stupid enough to pass up the chance for some real leadership when the Imperium is beset by so many crises.
So they're going to do the job that the current counsel does, and the counsel won't be annoyed or anything?
You can't replace a counsel of men with a single guy, especially when that counsel are in charge of the army, the mechanicum, etc.
Either he has power, in which case the counsel are pissed off, or he's a figurehead and therefore wasted in the roll when he should be on the battlefield. Automatically Appended Next Post: Gharron wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/8804-.html
'nuff said
yeah yeah I know he's dead but I can dream..
Was he dropped on his face as a child or something?
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/07/25 13:35:20
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Formosa wrote:Gulliman.... you know the fella who had his own mini imperium..thats you know... better than the regular one
NO. I already gave the reason in the OP. Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that
Because only a Primarch has the qualifications for the job. In any case, why not? Its not like the High Lords of Terra would be disbanded. None of the Primarchs (well, maybe Russ) would be stupid enough to start a civil war by disbanding the council and declaring themselves Imperial Regent, and certainly none of the High Lords would be stupid enough to pass up the chance for some real leadership when the Imperium is beset by so many crises.
So they're going to do the job that the current counsel does, and the counsel won't be annoyed or anything? You can't replace a counsel of men with a single guy, especially when that counsel are in charge of the army, the mechanicum, etc. Either he has power, in which case the counsel are pissed off, or he's a figurehead and therefore wasted in the roll when he should be on the battlefield.
I don't recall Guilliman being the sole High Lord of Terra during his time as Lord Commander. IIRC, the only man who had the gall to do that was Goge Vandire...in any case, the Lord Commander would be head of the council (note the spelling) and first among equals. That last part is something I have never really gotten my mind around, but I believe its the best description for the position.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 13:39:37
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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I'm missing Horus on that list.
Oh wait, wasn't there a reason the Imperium did away with giving so much power to individual people, even moreso Space Marines?
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2012/07/25 13:43:50
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Tadashi wrote:
I don't recall Guilliman being the sole High Lord of Terra during his time as Lord Commander. IIRC, the only man who had the gall to do that was Goge Vandire...in any case, the Lord Commander would be head of the council (note the spelling) and first among equals. That last part is something I have never really gotten my mind around, but I believe its the best description for the position.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/07/25 13:46:42
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Lynata wrote:I'm missing Horus on that list.
My first choice is Horus, then Sanguinius, then Magnus, and then Lion...but the first three are either dead or "unavailable", so...
Oh wait, wasn't there a reason the Imperium did away with giving so much power to individual people, even moreso Space Marines?
The High Lords didn't have a problem with Guilliman as the previous Lord Commander of the Imperium. In any case, so long as the Lord Commander respects the positions/opinions/common interests of the other council members, I'm sure the High Lords would accept it.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 13:47:55
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Gharron wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/8804-.html
'nuff said
yeah yeah I know he's dead but I can dream..
Was he dropped on his face as a child or something?
They grew up on deathworlds as kids so...maybe? 
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2012/07/25 13:48:45
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:
I don't recall Guilliman being the sole High Lord of Terra during his time as Lord Commander. IIRC, the only man who had the gall to do that was Goge Vandire...in any case, the Lord Commander would be head of the council (note the spelling) and first among equals. That last part is something I have never really gotten my mind around, but I believe its the best description for the position.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Thanks for the direct explanation...that sure cleared up the meaning of first among equals as opposed to the circular meanings I get from dictionaries.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 13:52:52
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:
I don't recall Guilliman being the sole High Lord of Terra during his time as Lord Commander. IIRC, the only man who had the gall to do that was Goge Vandire...in any case, the Lord Commander would be head of the council (note the spelling) and first among equals. That last part is something I have never really gotten my mind around, but I believe its the best description for the position.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Thanks for the direct explanation...that sure cleared up the meaning of first among equals as opposed to the circular meanings I get from dictionaries.
Life is going to cause serious problems for you if you insist on using a dictionary to discover the meaning of language.
Since subtly has failed I'll explain directly - a 12 foot tall immortal super-human probably would find it difficult to regard himself as equal to a load of crusty old men. He's not the emperor, he's the head of his own specific chapter - the head of say 1,000 space marines, somehow above the head of hundreds of trillions of imperial guardsmen.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/07/25 14:04:02
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Tadashi wrote:
I don't recall Guilliman being the sole High Lord of Terra during his time as Lord Commander. IIRC, the only man who had the gall to do that was Goge Vandire...in any case, the Lord Commander would be head of the council (note the spelling) and first among equals. That last part is something I have never really gotten my mind around, but I believe its the best description for the position.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Thanks for the direct explanation...that sure cleared up the meaning of first among equals as opposed to the circular meanings I get from dictionaries.
Life is going to cause serious problems for you if you insist on using a dictionary to discover the meaning of language. Since subtly has failed I'll explain directly - a 12 foot tall immortal super-human probably would find it difficult to regard himself as equal to a load of crusty old men. He's not the emperor, he's the head of his own specific chapter - the head of say 1,000 space marines, somehow above the head of hundreds of trillions of imperial guardsmen.
Its not about the numbers or influence of the other council members, although I would argue that the Lord Commander (in my opinion, Lion) would directly command all the Chapters descended from his gene-seed. The other Chapters would have loose loyalty to him as their 'uncle'. As for the other Imperial organizations... 1) The Administratum oversees the day-to-day affairs of the Imperium, so they wouldn't really have anything to lose by supporting the Lord Commander as they're too important to be set aside in any case. 2) The Ecclesiarchy sees the loyalist Primarchs as Imperial Saints...the Imperium led by a Saint, and one of those who fought alongside the Emperor and remained loyal in the dark years of the Horus Heresy, wouldn't that be perfect propaganda for the Inquisition and the Ecclesiarchy? 3) The Adeptus Mechanicus would see an advocate/ally in any arguments with the Ecclesiarchy, so long as they can keep common interests between council members/Imperial organizations secure. The others...well, this is just my opinion, but I think that once the 'Big Four' (the Administratum, the Inquisition, the Ecclesiarchy, the Adeptus Mechanicus) agree they'll probably fall in line.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 14:05:09
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Creed, he'll just somehow on that list and win
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2012/07/25 14:09:17
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:Creed, he'll just somehow on that list and win
If you're just gonna troll, go away. If any non-Primarch deserves to gain the position of Lord Commander of the Imperium, it would be Lord Solar Macharius aka Alexander the Great.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 14:10:41
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Lord Solar Macharius isn't on there! :O
Nor is Warmaster Slaydo 
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2012/07/25 14:14:27
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Oh, if you are thinking across all history ok, I was working on that fact that it is NOW, not a thousand years ago when Macharius was, y'know, alive.....
Creed, being alive, can fill the spot more 'today' so to speak.
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2012/07/25 14:16:09
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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But Slaydo was only alive 250 years ago? (I think... let my check my codex)
Thats not that long ago, and i reckon Slaydo was an absolute hero who could potentially have saved the Imperium... if he hadn't died or anything...
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2012/07/25 14:16:32
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Guilliman is more alive than Johnson. You know, since he's actually alive but in stasis, and Johnson is actually dead but in some mystery state.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2012/07/25 14:18:38
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Lucien-Alexis wrote:Lord Solar Macharius isn't on there! :O Nor is Warmaster Slaydo
They're both dead, unfortunately, but I believe Macharius is the only non-Primarch worthy to become Lord Commander of the Imperium. DarknessEternal wrote:Guilliman is more alive than Johnson. You know, since he's actually alive but in stasis, and Johnson is actually dead but in some mystery state.
No, Guilliman is dead - frozen in stasis at the moment of death. Lion is alive, just in a state of hyper-hibernation, similar to Astartes when they activate their sus-an membrane. Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Creed, being alive, can fill the spot more 'today' so to speak.
No, thank you. Creed doesn't come close to Macharius. And I'd pick Ciaphas Cain over Creed any day, thank you very much.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/25 14:30:14
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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A lucky, cowardly commissar over a front line commander? If you want...
and I'd rather take Creed over a now-dead Lord Solar.
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2012/07/25 14:33:40
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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I will stick stick by Warmaster Slaydo... yes... even over Macharius
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2012/07/25 14:36:44
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that
Because only a Primarch has the qualifications for the job.
Based on what? I see relatively little that would make them qualified to be leaders of a galaxy wide empire. They commanded invasion forces and super soldiers, I'm not seeing where they'd be qualified for political leadership of a massive empire comprised of uncountable factions and a military that bears little resemblance to what they fought with.
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2012/07/25 14:37:07
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ignatius wrote:Corax. Vulkan seems like he is that humble guy who doesn't want to be in a position of power. And so would pass it up.
Russ is too passionate.
Johnson is way too distrustful and brooding.
Khan would be my second pick, but he would strive for power through force and care more for martial prowess and brutality than intelligence and peace.
Corax is left. He's super smart, and seems pretty Objective in his decision making, caring about what is best overall. Utilitarian some could argue but that is what the imperium needs.
This is EXACTLY how feel about it. I'd love Vulkan to take the job, but I think Corax would be best option. EDIT - and I just realized I voted for Vulkan on accident. Derp.
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2012/07/25 14:57:45
Subject: [Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vaktathi wrote:Tadashi wrote:Testify wrote:Why should it be a primarch? I'm not sure how the Imperial Guard or mechanicus would feel about that
Because only a Primarch has the qualifications for the job.
Based on what? I see relatively little that would make them qualified to be leaders of a galaxy wide empire. They commanded invasion forces and super soldiers, I'm not seeing where they'd be qualified for political leadership of a massive empire comprised of uncountable factions and a military that bears little resemblance to what they fought with.
I think it's pretty obvious this is another "omg primarchs are awesome" thread. To the extent that mentioning a non-primarch was dismissed as trolling
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
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2012/07/25 15:40:07
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Hallowed Canoness
Ireland
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Tadashi wrote:2) The Ecclesiarchy sees the loyalist Primarchs as Imperial Saints...the Imperium led by a Saint, and one of those who fought alongside the Emperor and remained loyal in the dark years of the Horus Heresy, wouldn't that be perfect propaganda for the Inquisition and the Ecclesiarchy?
Many in the Ecclesiarchy doesn't really like Space Marines and regard them as abhuman heretics, some of them mutants and borderline-traitors. They don't have a problem with the Loyalist Primarchs because they aren't around. Much like they don't have a problem with the Emperor chiefly because He is currently unable to tell them He didn't actually want religious fanatism in his Imperium.
Tadashi wrote:The High Lords didn't have a problem with Guilliman as the previous Lord Commander of the Imperium.
That was a very extraordinary situation, though. (studio) fluff makes it clear time and time again that the Imperium works on the concept of "divided we stand", and this is doubly true for the Astartes who had their Legions sliced in neat little Chapters and command authority over the Guard and the Navy taken away. Look at the seats in the Senatorum Imperialis and you will notice that not a single one is reserved for a Space Marine.
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2012/07/25 15:43:42
Subject: Re:[Poll] Who is most suited to be Lord Commander of the Imperium
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tadashi wrote:Lucien-Alexis wrote:Lord Solar Macharius isn't on there! :O
Nor is Warmaster Slaydo
They're both dead, unfortunately, but I believe Macharius is the only non-Primarch worthy to become Lord Commander of the Imperium.
Macharius was Lord Commander of Segmentum Solar. There's a Lord Commander for each Segmentum. They are outranked by the Lord Commnader Militant.
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