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2012/08/02 23:10:58
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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In 6th Edition you can now throw grenades.... 1 per squad or each in assault. Now I know that you can not assault a flyer but my question is, can you chuck a grenade at a flyer if it is within 8".... I would assume you would need a 6 to hit, but is this a legal thing to do? I did not see that you could not, but if it is in the BRB please let me know what page it is not. Thanks for the views and posts... Cheers
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Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Eldar Corsairs, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Chaos, Choas Space Marines, Tau, Sisters of Battle, Inquisition, Necrons, Space Marines, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Imperial Knights, Dark Angels, Imperial Guard, Ad Mech, Knights, Skaven, Sylvaneth |
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2012/08/02 23:22:33
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Fell Caller - Child of Bragg
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Eiluj The Farseer wrote:In 6th Edition you can now throw grenades.... 1 per squad or each in assault. Now I know that you can not assault a flyer but my question is, can you chuck a grenade at a flyer if it is within 8".... I would assume you would need a 6 to hit, but is this a legal thing to do? I did not see that you could not, but if it is in the BRB please let me know what page it is not. Thanks for the views and posts... Cheers
Only if it's not a blast and has a profile that allows for a ranged attack, so krak missiles only, I believe.
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2012/08/02 23:29:41
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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No I am not asking about missiles, I am asking about grenades.... the one I was really considering was Haywire grenades
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Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Eldar Corsairs, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Chaos, Choas Space Marines, Tau, Sisters of Battle, Inquisition, Necrons, Space Marines, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Imperial Knights, Dark Angels, Imperial Guard, Ad Mech, Knights, Skaven, Sylvaneth |
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2012/08/02 23:30:30
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Yes, you can throw grenades at Flyers. As long as they arn't blast.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/08/02 23:31:27
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Fell Caller - Child of Bragg
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Eiluj The Farseer wrote:No I am not asking about missiles, I am asking about grenades.... the one I was really considering was Haywire grenades
Sorry, meant krak grenades.
But yeah, haywires work too.
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Over 350 points of painted Trolls and Cyriss |
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2012/08/02 23:57:09
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Anything that's not a blast, template or auto hits may fire at fliers, if it doesn't have the skyfire rule.
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2012/08/03 00:06:56
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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yay for EMP granades then!
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Remember when it comes to 40k Fluff
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And other science facts....
Just repeat to yourself; "It's just a show".
"I should really just relax".
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2012/08/03 00:08:30
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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juraigamer wrote:Anything that's not a blast, template or auto hits may fire at fliers, if it doesn't have the skyfire rule.
so why can't the "auto hits" work against fliers? I've heard that before but where is that written?
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2012/08/03 00:08:42
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Can't throw EMP grenades...
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2012/08/03 00:11:52
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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sirlynchmob wrote:juraigamer wrote:Anything that's not a blast, template or auto hits may fire at fliers, if it doesn't have the skyfire rule.
so why can't the "auto hits" work against fliers? I've heard that before but where is that written?
because you can't snap fire them, check your snap fire rules.
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2012/08/03 00:12:40
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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sirlynchmob wrote:juraigamer wrote:Anything that's not a blast, template or auto hits may fire at fliers, if it doesn't have the skyfire rule.
so why can't the "auto hits" work against fliers? I've heard that before but where is that written?
Because under the flyer rules the can only be hit by snap shots when shooting at them.
You can't snapshot if you can't use BS on the shot.
Autohits don't use BS. Automatically Appended Next Post: ninja'd 
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2012/08/03 01:26:56
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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Thank you all for all the posts that really helps explain things.... As always GW writes clear as mud sometimes, so it is always helpfull to hear it from other players.. cheers
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2012/08/03 03:56:46
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Cosmic Joe
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juraigamer wrote:Can't throw EMP grenades...
Sadly EMP grenades have no thrown profile.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army.
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2012/08/03 04:02:38
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Killer Klaivex
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HoverBoy wrote:juraigamer wrote:Can't throw EMP grenades...
Sadly EMP grenades have no thrown profile.
Yeah, because a single shot that could hit on a 6 and glance on a 4 would be awesome?
I'll gladely let any tau player take pot shots at my flyers with the EMP; it might keep you from doing something more productive with that unit.
-Matt
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2012/08/03 04:40:12
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I've taken down fliers with thrown Haywire before, and killed the flier, the entire unit inside and the dread hanging on the back
It was pretty productive 
That said, haywire glances on a 2+ 
It may not be effective most of the time, but when it pays off it sometimes pays off big.
Is EMP only a 4+ glance? That's pretty sad ..
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2012/08/03 20:31:32
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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I hope in the new Eldar Codex, the Intercept power for Swooping Hawks Exarchs allows you to assault flyers. that would make SH a lot more viable again.... We will have to wait and see.
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2012/08/03 21:43:58
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Eiluj The Farseer wrote:I hope in the new Eldar Codex, the Intercept power for Swooping Hawks Exarchs allows you to assault flyers. that would make SH a lot more viable again.... We will have to wait and see.
That would not make them viable, that would make the awesome. The visual in my mind is enough to let them do it now if I played an army with flyers.
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If you are jumping on the Dinobot meme bandwagon regarding the new Warhammer 40k Chaos models, grow the feth up! |
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2012/08/03 21:50:59
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Slightly off-topic, there is an Apoc formation (Baharroth's Tempest) that allows you to assault a Flyer.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/08/03 21:55:55
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Happyjew wrote:Slightly off-topic, there is an Apoc formation (Baharroth's Tempest) that allows you to assault a Flyer.
Link it. This seems very cool. Was it a 6th 'Ed update or for the Apoc Flyers?
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2012/08/03 22:02:02
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It's Apocalypse Reload page 32. Basically it's Baharroth, and 3+ squads of Swooping Hawks with Exarch and both powers. The formation can be moved into base contact with a flyer (within range) and anyone who wishes to attach a Haywire Grenade can but must pass an Initiative test or suffer a Wound with no save.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/08/04 00:59:27
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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Super cool man thanks for posting it, I will have to check in out.
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Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Eldar Corsairs, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Chaos, Choas Space Marines, Tau, Sisters of Battle, Inquisition, Necrons, Space Marines, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Imperial Knights, Dark Angels, Imperial Guard, Ad Mech, Knights, Skaven, Sylvaneth |
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2012/08/04 02:49:04
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Apoc =/= 40k.
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2012/08/04 02:52:32
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Sure it does, its just 40k^2
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/08/04 15:10:00
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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Dozer Blades wrote:Apoc =/= 40k.
The new books actually stamp specifically what is kosher in regular 40k games and what is APOC
Some towns and gaming stores are okay with IA and Forgeworld
Some are very anti, but my thoughts on it is not that it is too OP, its that Forgeworld does not sell through distributers
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2012/08/04 15:20:25
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Why should that make a difference?
And some GW stores carry FW products(and all can order them)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/08/04 18:00:12
Subject: Re:Grenades and Flyers
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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The main local one does not allow them because they do not carry them....
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Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Eldar Corsairs, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult, Chaos, Choas Space Marines, Tau, Sisters of Battle, Inquisition, Necrons, Space Marines, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Imperial Knights, Dark Angels, Imperial Guard, Ad Mech, Knights, Skaven, Sylvaneth |
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2012/08/04 18:29:00
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Happyjew wrote:It's Apocalypse Reload page 32. Basically it's Baharroth, and 3+ squads of Swooping Hawks with Exarch and both powers. The formation can be moved into base contact with a flyer (within range) and anyone who wishes to attach a Haywire Grenade can but must pass an Initiative test or suffer a Wound with no save.
That sounds awesome and all I can picture is any SH that fails it's initiative test gets sucked into the engines like a seagull.
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2012/08/04 19:09:17
Subject: Grenades and Flyers
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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That and getting shot to all  as they swoop in. See what I did there?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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