(possible) Leaked release list, wild mass guessing!

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**Kid_Kyoto**

If you've not seen it there is allegedly a leaded release list for Summer 2013 and onward in the news and rumors forum. It only had 40k and Hobbit releases but here are the 40k items:

- Imperial Agents Enforcer with Heavy Stubber
- Imperial Agents Obsideo Assassin
- Imperial Agents Deathwatch Kill Team
- Imperial Agents Deathwatch Librarian

- Mechanicus Battle-Servitors / Khorne Caedes Engines

- Cult Hybrid Upgrade Pack
- Patriarch Dumas, The Veiled Fiend

- Sisters of Battle Canoness with Power Axe
- Sisters of Battle Seraphim / Patronica Squad
- Sisters of Battle Battle Sisters
- Sisters of Battle Exorcist / Catafalque of Sins
- Sisters of Battle Prioress Lazarea Verata
- Sisters of Battle Sister Superior Magdalenia
- Sisters of Battle Repentia Squad

- Cabal Tarellian Cotor with Dragontongue
- Cabal Alpha Psyker

- Freebooters Ogreen Kaptain

- Cypher

- Kroot Kroothawks
- Tau Empire Nautilus Defence Platform
- Tau Empire Mako
- Commander Farsight
- Tau Empire Vespid Stingwings / Vespid Spinewings

- Harlequin Solitaire
- The Avatar of Khaine
- Eldar Wraithguard / Cataphracts
- Eldar Sky Chariots / Shining Spears
- Eldar Warpspiders / Everguard
- Eldar Black Warden
- Phoenix Lord Kyme'doc, The Planetwister
- Eldar Eldritch Raiders
- Eldar Webway Gate
- Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart / Alean Vyper
- Eldar Spirit Warrior
- Eldar Dragon Riders PL
- Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch
- Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch
- Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch
- Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch
- The Avatar of the Young King
- Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber
- Eldar Jetbikes
- Eldar Warlock with Force Staff
- Eldar Swooping Hawks

- Chaos Dark Chapel Upgrade Pack
- Chaos Bike Squadron
- Chaos Noise Marines
- Chaos Thousand Sons

- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Defence Wall
- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Tower / Pillar of Heroes
- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Monastery
- Space Marine Land Avenger
- Space Marine Praetor Warmachine
- Space Marine Bike Squadron / Crusader Bike Squadron
- Space Marine Skyshatter Cannon
- Space Marine Terminator First Hand
- Space Marine Librarian with Jump Pack
- Space Marine Neophytes
- Space Marine Techmarine with Artificer Squad
- Space Marine Sword Brethren / Nightflame Veteran Squad
- Space Marine Librarian Epistolary
- Space Marine Land Avenger Vulkan / Land Avenger Invictus
- Space Marine Bionics Upgrade Pack
- Space Marine Defender Upgrade Pack
- Space Marine Scouts with Astartes Grenade Launchers
- Space Marine Gale Claw Supremacy Fighter
- Space Marine Space Marine Tactical Squad
- Space Marine Land Raider Medusa
- Paladin Marshall Sieghelm
- Iron Father Maalthun
- Chapter Master Tu’Shan
- Severus Agemman, Regent of Ultramar
- Helveticus the Ancient, Bearer of Honour

- Dark Eldar Grotesque Squad

- Imperial Guard Storm Troopers / Iron Cloak Veterans
- Imperial Guard Hydra

- Bloodthirster
- Lord of Change
- Chaos Daemons Warp Stalkers / Chaos Furies
- Great Unclean One
- Keeper of Secrets

- Ork Warbuggy / Deff Racer
- Ork Wartrakk Skorcha / Flakk Trakk
- Ork Deff Koptas
- Wazzdakka Gutsmek
- Ork Flying Fortress / Rokk Launcha
- Ork Gun Fortress / Mega Tellyporta
- Ork Flash Gitz / Tellyporta Nobz
- Ork Meganobz / Painboy Cyborks
- Ork Warphead
- Ork Klan Fort
- Ork Boar Squigs
- Ork Squiggotaur
- Ork Big Guns / Pulsa Launchas
- Ork Painboy with Cleava Harness
- Ork Grot Nurses
- Gorbuzz ThreeEye
- Gritlegg Maksmesh
- Boss-Kommissa Grotzki

The full list is here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/468955.page

So lots of new units including 2 new tanks and a flier for the Marines. Hints of an Imperial Agents codex (promised since the 1990s) and either a Sisters Codex or at least a plastic release for them. And even a hint of Genestealer cults (cult hybrid and patriarch).

So anyone want to work on some wild mass guessing for what these units will be?

**AegisGrimm**

Good thing Marines get something in the future, they are kind of lacking in choices..

**Kid_Kyoto**

Looking at their stuff most is self-explanatory but these are worth a look:

- Space Marine Land Avenger
- Space Marine Land Avenger Vulkan / Land Avenger Invictus

Figure this is the long rumored tank between the Rhino and the Land Raider AV12 or 13, modest transport.

- Space Marine Praetor Warmachine

Persumablely a marine super heavy. A walker we can hope?

- Space Marine Defender Upgrade Pack

???

- Space Marine Gale Claw Supremacy Fighter

Another flier. Will it look even worse than the Chibi Hawk and Chibi Hawk Junior? GW have set themselves a high bar.

- Space Marine Land Raider Medusa

Another variant? Presumably the DAs will get a plasma variant, so maybe a melta or missile version? Maybe something that sacrifices transport for ordinence, like oh, a Medusa cannon?

I really didn't make that connection till now...

**AegisGrimm**

I'm bummed that the Eldar list doesn't contain anything that sounds like the Knight-level model that they were supposed to be getting. Although the Spirit Warrior should be fun. If it's anything like some of the old version in 1e/2e it's sort of like a Wraithseer.

Used to be Wraithlords were just Eldar Dreadnoughts, with a guy inside. A Spirit-Warrior was a dread run by the Infinity Circuit, and they turned into the 'Wraithlords" of today. But the twist was that they could have psychic powers if their main personality used to be a Warlock or Farseer.

**mayfist**

I'm exited about the guard kits !

This might just make me postpone my IG army makeover....

**Testify**

I hope Space Marines don't get an AV 12 transport. That's sort of the guard's thing.
Or at least if they do get one, it should be a gak-tonne more expensive than the guard's, with a load of tricks and effects - maybe an assault vehicle?

**Coolyo294**

I wonder what a Xentarch is.

**Testify**

Also new Lord of Change...the feth? I just bought and started painting this one! And because I'm a slow I didn't glue it properly so he's in a rubbish pose. bah.

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Coolyo294 wrote:I wonder what a Xentarch is.

<showing off about my koine greek>
xeno=alien
arche=beginning/power

So...some sort of badass alien thing?

</showoff>

**pzbw7z**

The important thing is there are no plastic Battle Sisters. The Seraphim/Patronica sounds like a new plastic kit as does the Exorcist.Catafalque. The rest is probably Finecast although the Repentia could go either way.

Should we start complaining already?

**Coolyo294**

pzbw7z wrote:Should we start complaining already?

Of course! This is Dakka after all.

**ZebioLizard2**

Tellyporta nobz!

That is all.

**hotsauceman1**

Looks at wallet,
God i hope the new SM dont cost that much......He said hopelessly

**Kid_Kyoto**

pzbw7z wrote:The important thing is there are no plastic Battle Sisters. The Seraphim/Patronica sounds like a new plastic kit as does the Exorcist.Catafalque. The rest is probably Finecast although the Repentia could go either way.

Should we start complaining already?

In the main thread there were codes indicating plastic or resin, the new SoB squad was listed as plastic.

But remember this list does not start till a year from now Summer 2013, and might actually cover 2 or more years.

If it's even real.

So no celebrating just yet.

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ZebioLizard2 wrote:Tellyporta nobz!

That is all.

What do you figure? Jump infantry mega nobs?

**Grey Templar**

-Cult Hybrid Upgrade Pack
- Patriarch Dumas, The Veiled Fiend

Genestealers!!!

We're doomed

**Lobokai**

So this makes a summer codex release for vanilla marines look probable?

**sudojoe**

COME ON SISTERS!!! I am aiming to start a sisters army and it looks like by the time I get back from work they will be available *crosses fingers*

**Bobthehero**

IG Iron Cloak, what's that?

**ZebioLizard2**

What do you figure? Jump infantry mega nobs?

I don't know about mega armored nobz, but some sort of fast moving nobz squad.

**Dakkadood**

Ogreen Kaptain?

Is that what I think it is? Ogryn turned Ork??? Please please please!

**DeffDred**

Boss-Kommissa Grotzki

I hope it's a Grot that make an all gretchin related army possible.

Like Kanz as elites and funny upgrades to the basic Runtherd units.

**1hadhq**

- Imperial Agents Enforcer with Heavy Stubber
- Imperial Agents Obsideo Assassin
- Imperial Agents Deathwatch Kill Team
- Imperial Agents Deathwatch Librarian

- Mechanicus Battle-Servitors / Khorne Caedes Engines

- Cult Hybrid Upgrade Pack
- Patriarch Dumas, The Veiled Fiend

- Sisters of Battle Canoness with Power Axe
- Sisters of Battle Seraphim / Patronica Squad
- Sisters of Battle Battle Sisters
- Sisters of Battle Exorcist / Catafalque of Sins
- Sisters of Battle Prioress Lazarea Verata
- Sisters of Battle Sister Superior Magdalenia
- Sisters of Battle Repentia Squad

- Cabal Tarellian Cotor with Dragontongue
- Cabal Alpha Psyker

- Freebooters Ogreen Kaptain

- Cypher

- Kroot Kroothawks
- Tau Empire Nautilus Defence Platform
- Tau Empire Mako
- Commander Farsight
- Tau Empire Vespid Stingwings / Vespid Spinewings

- Harlequin Solitaire
- The Avatar of Khaine
- Eldar Wraithguard / Cataphracts
- Eldar Sky Chariots / Shining Spears
- Eldar Warpspiders / Everguard
- Eldar Black Warden
- Phoenix Lord Kyme'doc, The Planetwister
- Eldar Eldritch Raiders
- Eldar Webway Gate
- Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart / Alean Vyper
- Eldar Spirit Warrior
- Eldar Dragon Riders PL
- Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch
- Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch
- Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch
- Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch
- The Avatar of the Young King
- Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber
- Eldar Jetbikes
- Eldar Warlock with Force Staff
- Eldar Swooping Hawks

- Chaos Dark Chapel Upgrade Pack
- Chaos Bike Squadron
- Chaos Noise Marines
- Chaos Thousand Sons

- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Defence Wall
- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Tower / Pillar of Heroes
- Space Marine Astartes Battle Fortress Monastery
- Space Marine Land Avenger
- Space Marine Praetor Warmachine
- Space Marine Bike Squadron / Crusader Bike Squadron
- Space Marine Skyshatter Cannon
- Space Marine Terminator First Hand
- Space Marine Librarian with Jump Pack
- Space Marine Neophytes
- Space Marine Techmarine with Artificer Squad
- Space Marine Sword Brethren / Nightflame Veteran Squad
- Space Marine Librarian Epistolary
- Space Marine Land Avenger Vulkan / Land Avenger Invictus
- Space Marine Bionics Upgrade Pack
- Space Marine Defender Upgrade Pack
- Space Marine Scouts with Astartes Grenade Launchers
- Space Marine Gale Claw Supremacy Fighter
- Space Marine Space Marine Tactical Squad
- Space Marine Land Raider Medusa
- Paladin Marshall Sieghelm
- Iron Father Maalthun
- Chapter Master Tu’Shan
- Severus Agemman, Regent of Ultramar
- Helveticus the Ancient, Bearer of Honour

- Dark Eldar Grotesque Squad

- Imperial Guard Storm Troopers / Iron Cloak Veterans
- Imperial Guard Hydra

- Bloodthirster
- Lord of Change
- Chaos Daemons Warp Stalkers / Chaos Furies
- Great Unclean One
- Keeper of Secrets

- Ork Warbuggy / Deff Racer
- Ork Wartrakk Skorcha / Flakk Trakk
- Ork Deff Koptas
- Wazzdakka Gutsmek
- Ork Flying Fortress / Rokk Launcha
- Ork Gun Fortress / Mega Tellyporta
- Ork Flash Gitz / Tellyporta Nobz
- Ork Meganobz / Painboy Cyborks
- Ork Warphead
- Ork Klan Fort
- Ork Boar Squigs
- Ork Squiggotaur
- Ork Big Guns / Pulsa Launchas
- Ork Painboy with Cleava Harness
- Ork Grot Nurses
- Gorbuzz ThreeEye
- Gritlegg Maksmesh
- Boss-Kommissa Grotzki

What seems to be new models in green. Tons of new models ands a few redone.

Terrain kits, most likely an "allies" release, codices for Eldar, Orks, waves of chaos, Tau and small droplets of IG and DE, plastic sisters and more marines.

The one kit standing out there, to me, the mechanicus/khorne combo could hint on a expanded logic of double use kits where its no longer faction specific but model specific! This would grant us more bitz to bling out a unit as we may get 2 kits instead of 1, but surely its like the first batch and small units of 5 models with not enough parts to build both variants.( shared or limited parts like the necron boxes had ).
Plus, more fliers, more vehicles, more mid-sized models who a bigger than basic infantry but no titan.

Can live with zero plastic super-heavy-walker if i can have Iron Hand characters, mechanicum units and refitted and rearmed sisters.

Just get someone who is able to design a non-chibi vehicle to do the SM flier.

**English Assassin**

AegisGrimm wrote:Good thing Marines get something in the future, they are kind of lacking in choices..

Unless my memory fails me, regular Space Marines haven't - ignoring that stupid-looking flyer - actually had a new release since 2008.

Not that I actually want more Space Marine stuff - I'd just like Assault Marines, Devastators and Vanguards to be worth their points.

Grey Templar wrote:-Cult Hybrid Upgrade Pack
- Patriarch Dumas, The Veiled Fiend

Genestealers!!!

We're doomed

If true, then I will be genuinely delighted (even though it's about fifteen years late).

**Kid_Kyoto**

Bobthehero wrote:IG Iron Cloak, what's that?

Who knows, given the servitor/Khorne choppy thing kit it may be a loyalist/traitor set.

**hotsauceman1**

Im not sure, i look uneasy at the models for space marines, Some of the names sound fake, like preator warmachine? that doesnt sound like something they would name there tanks or walkers.

**liquidjoshi**

New Cypher, new Stormies, Hydra and Farsight?

Count me interested.

**AegisGrimm**

Unless my memory fails me, regular Space Marines haven't - ignoring that stupid-looking flyer - actually had a new release since 2008.

Yes, but "Space Marines" now encompass 1/4 of the armies in 40K. Marines in general are the last thing that needs more "stuff" as they already get the majority of the attention.

**Macok**

Coolyo294 wrote:I wonder what a Xentarch is.

Supposedly Exarchs will be named Xentarchs in the new Eldar codex.

**matphat**

I'm assuming that all the new Ork stuff points to a new Codex for the greenskins come next year. My only hope is, that it's as good as the current one. I love how the Orks play, even if they aren't competitive.

**Coolyo294**

Macok wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:I wonder what a Xentarch is.

Supposedly Exarchs will be named Xentarchs in the new Eldar codex.

Mmmmhm.
Gotta say, Exarch is a much better name than Xenatarch.

**English Assassin**

AegisGrimm wrote:
Unless my memory fails me, regular Space Marines haven't - ignoring that stupid-looking flyer - actually had a new release since 2008.

Yes, but "Space Marines" now encompass 1/4 of the armies in 40K. Marines in general are the last thing that needs more "stuff" as they already get the majority of the attention.

Well, as I said, I don't want more Space Marine stuff. Regrettably, we will always get more and more because GW want to sell stuff to their (many, many) Space Marine players. Which is presumably why our established fast attack choices are worthless compared with the aforesaid stupid-looking and undercosted flyer.