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Allright we have seen these terms used over and over again on these here forums, and I thought it would be interesting to actually discuss what those terms mean, because it seems to me, that there is a lot of hypocrisy and "Holier than Thou" comments made by certain posters, because they lack a basic understanding of what it means to be bigoted or intolerant.

Lets start with the basics:

Dictionary.com for Bigot
big·ot
   [big-uht] Show IPA
noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race


Miriam Webster. com for Bigot
big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance


Now lets look at Intolerant


Miriam Webster. com for Intolerant
in·tol·er·ant
adj \-rənt\
Definition of INTOLERANT
1
: unable or unwilling to endure
2
a : unwilling to grant equal freedom of expression especially in religious matters b : unwilling to grant or share social, political, or professional rights : bigoted
3
: exhibiting physiological intolerance <lactose intolerant>

Dictionary.com for Intolerant

n·tol·er·ant
   [in-tol-er-uhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; bigoted.
2.
unable or unwilling to tolerate or endure (usually followed by of ): intolerant of very hot weather.


World english dictionary for Intolerant
intolerant (ɪnˈtɒlərənt)

— adj (foll by of )
1. lacking respect for practices and beliefs other than one's own
2. not able or willing to tolerate or endure: intolerant of noise



So to break it down a Bigot can be described as someone that is utterly intolerant of a differing creed, belief or opinion. You can be a bigot if you are intolerant to racial or ethnic groups especially if it is accompanied by hatred.

From what I see, Intolerance is basically a synonym of Bigot.

So from those definitions a lot of people on these forums that talk about bigots and intolerance are themselves intolerant bigots.

Here are some examples of what I call bigotry.

A member of a racial superiority group sees someone of a different race and starts to yell out insulting racial epitaphs= bigot
A member of a group sees someone of the LGBT community and starts to yell out insulting epitaphs= bigot
KKK chases down and beats up a member of a racial minority group( just because of their race) = bigot
KKK chases down and beats up a member of the LGBT community(just because of their orientation) = bigot

A person with a religious viewpoint (or non religious opinion) that doesn't accept the view that LGBT were born that way does not = bigot
A person with a religious viewpoint (or non religious opinion) that doesn't accept the view that LGBT marriage is equivalent to traditional marriage does not = bigot

It's possible that they are wrong or mistaken sure..but it doesn't automatically mean they are a bigot.

You could have a person that is perfectly willing to help someone who is LGBT by helping them when they are sick, by giving them food if they were hungry, by praying for them if they asked for it, by giving them shelter if they were homeless. But that same person draws a line in the sand when it comes LGBT marriage and they get labeled as a bigot.

So I ask you what is a bigot?.......... really?

GG

Taliban, AQ, and insurgents are both for me. I seriously have a major dislike. Using a kid as a suicide bomber puts them lower then scum level.

Corpsesarefun wrote:I think you're an adequate example of both.

Can we stop with the immediate insult? I didn't insult you.

GG

World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

By this definition anyone claiming religious reasons for opposing gay marriage is a bigot...

generalgrog wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:I think you're an adequate example of both.

Can we stop with the immediate insult? I didn't insult you.

GG

generalgrog wrote:So from those definitions a lot of people on these forums that talk about bigots and intolerance are themselves intolerant bigots.

purplefood wrote:World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

By this definition anyone claiming religious reasons for opposing gay marriage is a bigot...

By that logic anyone opposing, anyone opposing gay marriage on religious grounds, is also a bigot.

It says that a person who is intolerant of any ideas..the key word is intolerant.

It didn't say a person that disagrees. Disagreement and intolerance are different things.

GG

generalgrog wrote:

purplefood wrote:World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

By this definition anyone claiming religious reasons for opposing gay marriage is a bigot...

By that logic anyone opposing, anyone opposing gay marriage on religious grounds, is also a bigot.

It says that a person who is intolerant of any ideas..the key word is intolerant.

It didn't say a person that disagrees. Disagreement and intolerance are different things.

GG

If you're intolerant of something surely you disagree with it?
Otherwise you would be tolerant of it...

Avatar 720 wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:I think you're an adequate example of both.

Can we stop with the immediate insult? I didn't insult you.

GG

generalgrog wrote:So from those definitions a lot of people on these forums that talk about bigots and intolerance are themselves intolerant bigots.

The difference is that I didn't call out anyones name specifically what i did was make a general statement...it's not the same thing as what COF just did.

GG


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purplefood wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

purplefood wrote:World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

By this definition anyone claiming religious reasons for opposing gay marriage is a bigot...

By that logic anyone opposing, anyone opposing gay marriage on religious grounds, is also a bigot.

It says that a person who is intolerant of any ideas..the key word is intolerant.

It didn't say a person that disagrees. Disagreement and intolerance are different things.

GG

With respect, I can tolerate you by allowing you to have your opinion and respectfully disagreeing, and not resorting to pejorative or ad hominem or insult. There is a big difference.

GG

So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

generalgrog wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:I think you're an adequate example of both.

Can we stop with the immediate insult? I didn't insult you.

GG

I see this thread going places, dark places.

And by that I see it being closed quickly.

All your bigots are belong to us!!!

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

purplefood wrote:World english dictionary for Bigot

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

— n
a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

By this definition anyone claiming religious reasons for opposing gay marriage is a bigot...

By this definition 95% of the persons posting on this forum, yourself included, are bigots.

Ancient Frazzled says: no one has ever changed their opinion.

Hammer Lock in 2 pages

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You can quite easily insult people without using names...
You did it for instance.

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

All gays are morally wrong and should be killed.

What? I didn't use any names so it's ok right?

RIGHT?

purplefood wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You can quite easily insult people without using names...
You did it for instance.

I disagree with you..does that make me intolerant?



GG

Frazzled wrote:By this definition 95% of the persons posting on this forum, yourself included, are bigots.

Fraz, we tolerate you. We don't AGREE with you, but we tolerate you. Cause of your fluffy wonderful Wiener Dogs!

Corpsesarefun wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

All gays are morally wrong and should be killed.

What? I didn't use any names so it's ok right?

RIGHT?

I'm sure there is some logical fallacy there..but don't know what it is.


GG

Jihadin wrote:Hammer Lock in 2 pages

Yep. This is why we can't have nice things.

Torpedoes Away!!!

Avatar 720 wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You are an idiot.

I didn't use any names, therefore it's not an insult.

No you specifically said "you are"

BY using 'you are", you targeted me.

GG

generalgrog wrote:

purplefood wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You can quite easily insult people without using names...
You did it for instance.

I disagree with you..does that make me intolerant?



GG

yes.

generalgrog wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

All gays are morally wrong and should be killed.

What? I didn't use any names so it's ok right?

RIGHT?

I'm sure there is some logical fallacy there..but don't what it is.


GG

The fallacy is your original statement, names are not required to insult. In fact I think you'll find that I haven't actually used any name for you in this thread.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:By this definition 95% of the persons posting on this forum, yourself included, are bigots.

Fraz, we tolerate you. We don't AGREE with you, but we tolerate you. Cause of your fluffy wonderful Wiener Dogs!

I've been called bigot many many times here. Greatness is never appreciated (unless it is forced upon them!!!).
People misinterpret being an donkey-cave for being a bigot.

On the wiener dog fornt. yes they are cute. Since a fajita party Saturday Rodney has begun collecting old charcoal briquets. The wife found a partially complete bed of them in his kennel. She thinks he was trying to purify the kennel from the Overlord known as TBone (he won't go in it). Plus he ate an entire bird yesterday even when the wife was trying to pull a claw out of his mouth (jokes about the claw coming out the other end ensued). Thats one crazy sumbitch.

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You are an idiot.

I didn't use any names, therefore it's not an insult.

No you specifically said "your"

BY using 'your", you targetted me.

GG

Using 'your' is not using your name, which is the only requisite of an insult according to your previous post, therefore I did not insult you.

Corpsesarefun wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

All gays are morally wrong and should be killed.

What? I didn't use any names so it's ok right?

RIGHT?

I'm sure there is some logical fallacy there..but don't what it is.



GG

The fallacy is your original statement, names are not required to insult. In fact I think you'll find that I haven't actually used any name for you in this thread.

Ok... we can agree to disagree.

Now back to the topic at hand..please

GG

generalgrog wrote:

purplefood wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that it's okay for you to insult half the forum because you didn't use specific names?

No what I'm saying is that I didn't insult anyone because I didn't use any names.

GG

You can quite easily insult people without using names...
You did it for instance.

I disagree with you..does that make me intolerant?



GG

Your disagreement is based on a perception of how insults work not in a particular set of ideology. So no it doesn't...
Though it does make you wrong... go figure...

Multiple insulting posts deleted. Please keep it polite or don't post.

Bigotry and intolerance are simply a result of individuals' fear and lack of understanding, coupled with human tendency towards herd mentality. Nothing more.

Even simpler, they are actions made towards innocent people/groups by either ignorance toward something, fear of something that is not understood, or the normal human fear of standing out. Usually a combination of more then one of those, or all three.

Humans are experts at hiding fear with violence or misdirection of attention away from themselves.

If it was truly justified (which it almost never is), it wouldn't be bigotry at all.

Well...I haven't been label a bigot...a murderer yes but not a bigot

Mannahnin wrote:Multiple insulting posts deleted. Please keep it polite or don't post.

Wait. No insta-lock?

And I'm intolerant of people who are intolerant of people. I think that makes me a bigot, in one way or another. It's kind of a meaningless insult.