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Alan Bajramovic, Team USA member for the European Team Championship and Wargamscon winner this past year, has won the ESC - the singles event held before the ETC. I wasn't there, but I'm guessing he used the same Horde Orks list he has terrorized the Chicagoland area with for the last few years.

Congratulations Alan.

Way to go Alan!

Hooray for Alan!

When did the US join Europe

Well done to him, I think really your guys have a better chance as you appear to have so much more competitive gaming available.

Rodgers, we have some great players, but a lot of the other countries are really competitive too. Poland, for example, has a GT-style event just about every weekend.

Congrats to Alan!

Nice job Alan. Top player - our guys warmed him up for this at the ATC!

USA! USA! USA!

rodgers37 wrote:When did the US join Europe

Well done to him, I think really your guys have a better chance as you appear to have so much more competitive gaming available.

It's not "European Team Championship" is in "Championship for European Teams"
It is: "Team Championship held in Europe"

I don't think the Americans will do particularly good at the ETC...

The US has placed in the top 5 both years they've attended, right? Seems pretty good to me.

This year so far they've beaten Norway and lost to Poland, who are the defending champs and historically one of the strongest teams.

Top5 out of 24 is what? Top 20% roughly. Not too impressive.


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Also: Poland is not reigning champion: Germany is.

Thanks for the correction. You're right; Poland were the 2010 champs, and Germany took it last year. Congrats! Have you played on the team? I haven't earned a slot yet, but have played with several of the guys on the US team, and have met most of them.

Clearly the Germany/Poland round 3 matchup tomorrow is the clash of the titans! I can't wait to see the result, and see how the rest of the field develops over the day.

The US team tied with Sweden for 4th in their first year of competition, which I think has to be considered a pretty darn impressive achievement by anyone's lights. I think the European players who've come over here can tell you that the metagame (game length, terrain setup) is substantially different and requires some adjustment, even leaving aside all the strategies to do with pairings. The US took 3rd last year, improving on their first result. The only team they lost to last year were the (overall champion) Germans. The Swedes (who were the only team to beat the Germans last year) also managed a Draw against the US. Going by those results it appears that the US are one of the top teams, despite having much less experience at the event than the other top contenders.

Do you really think those are results worth sneering at, or are you here trash-talking for fun? Or is it just a language issue, and I've misunderstood you?

archont wrote:Top5 out of 24 is what? Top 20% roughly. Not too impressive.


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Also: Poland is not reigning champion: Germany is.

Top 5 and/or top 20% not impressive? What does it take to impress you? I wonder if it was impressive to the other 19 teams that finished below them?

Mannahnin: Trashtalking for fun it is

Learned that from the americans last year And the year before that.

So do you play/practice with the team at all? All the US members I've gotten to play have been very good.

I got a chance to play the Swedish team captain at Adepticon this year, too. Quality player as well.

Nope, not usually. Haven't been to a proper tourney in a year or so. Only played against former teamGER etc guys, and some guys who play for the mercenary teamEUR.

All nice guys, all fun games.

btw, GER just destroyed POL

I really wonder how this will turn out, though I am quite optimistic as to our team winning

DarthDiggler wrote:Alan Bajramovic, Team USA member for the European Team Championship and Wargamscon winner this past year, has won the ESC - the singles event held before the ETC. I wasn't there, but I'm guessing he used the same Horde Orks list he has terrorized the Chicagoland area with for the last few years.

Congratulations Alan.

congrats.

I'm curious to know the army list.

His list at WGC @ 2k was something like 120 boyz, 2 biker bosses and 1 nob biker unit, if I remember correctly.

 Mannahnin wrote:


So do you play/practice with the team at all? All the US members I've gotten to play have been very good.

I got a chance to play the Swedish team captain at Adepticon this year, too. Quality player as well.

Hey you have played me and I was on Team Wales that finished 7

Was asked to play with the Swiss this year but the tournament was to close to my vacation and to be honest was not that thrilled to go to Poland. I like poland but it is being held in the middle of nowhere.

I played Alan at the ATC this year as defending Eldar. Almost pulled a draw if the game went 6. Was a great game.

I have played the Team France guys alot. I run into them at most my tournaments. I think I am 50/50 against most of them. Really nice guys.

Manahnin I like your little string of victories in your bottom half of text. I was up on you at champions this year with my 19 . Not that it really matters. But I am moving back to the states and will be living in Chicago so I can catch more tournaments. Though
I have not played or read much of 6th.

The tournament is in the middle of nowhere? Even though it's in Poland... Next biggest and closest city is Berlin, unless I am mistaken

 archont wrote:
The tournament is in the middle of nowhere? Even though it's in Poland... Next biggest and closest city is Berlin, unless I am mistaken

Considering all the places you could actually fly into Poland and still have a tournament. Yes.

Berlin is still 2 hours away. So you would have to either rent a car and/or take a train or bus.... So yes I do consider that in the middle of nowhere when the alternative could have been much easier.

By the way I would put the location of the ATC Chattanooga TN in the same category as in the middle of nowhere and it has an airport.

Fair enough

sabote wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
I got a chance to play the Swedish team captain at Adepticon this year, too. Quality player as well.

Hey you have played me and I was on Team Wales that finished 7

Good point! Hey, Brian! Yeah, you are another example of the caliber of player I've seen involved in this. Really makes me interested in a game against one of the Germans, Poles, or French.

sabote wrote:
Was asked to play with the Swiss this year but the tournament was to close to my vacation and to be honest was not that thrilled to go to Poland. I like poland but it is being held in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, I guess some of the sites have been pretty darn rustic. OTOH I heard Switzerland last year was amazing.

sabote wrote:
I played Alan at the ATC this year as defending Eldar. Almost pulled a draw if the game went 6. Was a great game.

Yeah, Alan seems to be a killer. He's been on a streak.

sabote wrote:
I have played the Team France guys alot. I run into them at most my tournaments. I think I am 50/50 against most of them. Really nice guys.

And they're on pace right now to get on the podium, depending on round 6. Germany and Russia at the top, England also on the top 2 tables. Nice work by England to improve position the way they have. US lost a second round to Italy this morning.

sabote wrote:
Manahnin I like your little string of victories in your bottom half of text. I was up on you at champions this year with my 19 . Not that it really matters. But I am moving back to the states and will be living in Chicago so I can catch more tournaments. Though I have not played or read much of 6th.

It's a big change. I wonder if part of the US team's showing is having largely already started playing a lot of 6th.

Which guy was he at the ATC? Was he the ork guy that had the most points? I did not even know the US had a national team. Thats really cool.

Where are you guys seeing the etc coverage? Can you link blogs, twitter etc please. Cheers.

djn wrote:
Where are you guys seeing the etc coverage? Can you link blogs, twitter etc please. Cheers.

http://etc40k.wordpress.com/

England in good shape going into the last round, hope they hold it together and get a podium place for the first time. Obviously it's cos I couldn't make it this year

The playing 6th is an interesting point. I knew a few of the England team haven't even looked at 6th ed but then the other half have been running 6th ed 40k tournaments in the last month so a bit of a mix.

Also been tracking some at...

www.40kings.de (google translate is your friend if you don't read German)
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23etc2012 (though it's been more WHFB)
http://baddice.co.uk/ (again, more WHFB)
Some news here:
http://twitter.com/JoakimRapp

And of course general info about the event (rules, teams, lists, etc.):
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=91be83ea9bca143c2167ed917a778dde

 helium42 wrote:

archont wrote:Top5 out of 24 is what? Top 20% roughly. Not too impressive.

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Also: Poland is not reigning champion: Germany is.

Top 5 and/or top 20% not impressive? What does it take to impress you? I wonder if it was impressive to the other 19 teams that finished below them?

Ah but you know the Germans.. they arent happy unless they are number one. Professionals they are.

Not like us plucky Brits, who lose better than absolutely anyone, and PARTY when we merely suck a little bit!

Take for example the INSANE REVELRY when we come third.

In fairness, there's likely an ulterior motive on that celebration. Most of those folks grabbing Daley probably want to have sex with him.

The English team is doing great this year at ETC.

 Mannahnin wrote:
In fairness, there's likely an ulterior motive on that celebration. Most of those folks grabbing Daley probably want to have sex with him.

The English team is doing great this year at ETC.

Possibly, he's a handsome lad, I was bewildered when I saw the photos though, like the guys with silver and gold look about half as pleased as Tom and his legions of followers.

I just think we make heroes out of losers over here, Tim Henman was a national hero and never won anything, if he was American the bloke would have been working in Burger King!

I admire the Germans and the Americans for their winners mentality personally. I think the British "its not about winning, its how you play the game" bs is one of the reasons we endlessly suck.. especially at football!

I wish he hadn't had to withdraw from the Adepticon Championship finals; would have been really cool to see his run at the title.

If by withdraw you mean get beat

Been playing with Alan for a long time, it is great to see him doing this well.