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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 14:10:55
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I played my brother the other day, and he was saying that the wounds caused by the blast from his vindicator, are taken on the models specifically hit by the blast. Now I cant seem to find the rule in the book that says this, all Im finding is wounds are taken closest to the firing unit. Where does it say what he is saying?
Im guessing he is right, because I hear people talk about sniping with barrage weapons, but again, Im either over looking it, or just simply missing the page here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 14:15:20
Subject: Simple blast question.
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The Hive Mind
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Barrage weapons wound from the center of the blast.
The Vindicator doesn't have a Barrage weapon.
Therefore the Vindicator doesn't wound from the center of the blast.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 14:19:59
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Rig nailed it. It isn't so much that blasts say you take from the front, but rather that blast don't say you take from the center hole. Since blast/large blast don't state to do any wound allocation out of the normal they follow all the normal restrictions... which is where the weird "scatter out of LoS so can't wound" issue comes into play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 14:32:57
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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What they have said. If you want to look at the rules for barrage weapons allocation look at page 34.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 15:24:03
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OK, here is whats conflicting then, I actually checked his codex, and it does say the demolisher cannon is a ordanance barrage weapon in its profile. Im guessing this is incorrect?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 15:41:56
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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The Hive Mind
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KingCracker wrote:OK, here is whats conflicting then, I actually checked his codex, and it does say the demolisher cannon is a ordanance barrage weapon in its profile. Im guessing this is incorrect?
Page 80 SM codex, no barrage listed. Page 414 6th ed BRB, no barrage listed.
The Barrage in the summary of the SM codex is a typo.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 16:45:24
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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+1 for Rigeld2
-1 for GW's outstanding editing team
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2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 17:08:32
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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rigeld2 wrote: KingCracker wrote:OK, here is whats conflicting then, I actually checked his codex, and it does say the demolisher cannon is a ordanance barrage weapon in its profile. Im guessing this is incorrect?
Page 80 SM codex, no barrage listed. Page 414 6th ed BRB, no barrage listed.
The Barrage in the summary of the SM codex is a typo.
OK well is there a FAQ somewhere I can show him? Because Ill be honest, it does say it in his codex, and unless I can prove to him that its a typo, understandably me saying its a typo wont cut it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 17:09:01
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Initial run of the codex did have the Vindy Demolisher listed as Barrage in at least one location. It was FAQed as no Barrage.
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Don "MONDO"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 17:14:29
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well I just read the FAQ and all it says is, add large blast to the demolisher profile. I guess Ill have to show him a current codex? Because his was a preorder from the LGS when the dex first dropped. This explains a lot though, as Ive heard before it mentioned that they couldnt fire indirectly, and Ive seen my brother do it a few times, and I even looked at the codex and know he wasnt cheating. Gotta love a big ol obvious mistake like that one eh?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 17:24:17
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Or, you could just show it to him in the brand new rule book that just came out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 18:13:25
Subject: Simple blast question.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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And IIRC, it only says barrage in the summary in the back. Look at the actual entry for Vindicator (even in his codex) and it lists it correctly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 18:29:58
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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The Hive Mind
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KingCracker wrote:rigeld2 wrote: KingCracker wrote:OK, here is whats conflicting then, I actually checked his codex, and it does say the demolisher cannon is a ordanance barrage weapon in its profile. Im guessing this is incorrect?
Page 80 SM codex, no barrage listed. Page 414 6th ed BRB, no barrage listed.
The Barrage in the summary of the SM codex is a typo.
OK well is there a FAQ somewhere I can show him? Because Ill be honest, it does say it in his codex, and unless I can prove to him that its a typo, understandably me saying its a typo wont cut it.
Show him the pages I listed - it's only listed as Barrage in one place and that's a summary of all weapons. The actual rules for the weapon are on page 80 of his codex.
Page 414 of the BRB backs that up - doesn't list Barrage.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 18:34:59
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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I too was once excited about the Vindicator "BARAGE" Snafu once upon a time. Sadly it was not ment to be :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/23 19:59:38
Subject: Re:Simple blast question.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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rigeld2 wrote: KingCracker wrote:rigeld2 wrote: KingCracker wrote:OK, here is whats conflicting then, I actually checked his codex, and it does say the demolisher cannon is a ordanance barrage weapon in its profile. Im guessing this is incorrect?
Page 80 SM codex, no barrage listed. Page 414 6th ed BRB, no barrage listed.
The Barrage in the summary of the SM codex is a typo.
OK well is there a FAQ somewhere I can show him? Because Ill be honest, it does say it in his codex, and unless I can prove to him that its a typo, understandably me saying its a typo wont cut it.
Show him the pages I listed - it's only listed as Barrage in one place and that's a summary of all weapons. The actual rules for the weapon are on page 80 of his codex.
Page 414 of the BRB backs that up - doesn't list Barrage.
All good, I told him to look up just what you said and its corrected now. He laughed and said "Well, I guess I should of just rammed your fething BW then"
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