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They should have just made the DP 40k centric and included double the bitz.. I have yet to see a DP be used in fantasy due to GW making it an awful choice in every army that can use one

Your personal anecdotes don't determine use, though.

Nurglitch wrote:I think you're mistaking your taste for fact. You don't like them. Okay. Other people do. I do, for one. I'm looking forward to picking up a few boxes.

I agree with you. I for one have always prefered the 'new' Daemonettes to the somewhat childish Diaz sculpts. Juan Diaz is no doubt the second best sculptor that GW has working for them and his Daemonettes didn't disappoint a lot of people but there was no real Slaaneshi feel to them. In my view the Daemonette models that replaced Diaz' models are excellent sculpts and fit the supposed alien appearance of Daemonettes better. I'm sure someone thinks that Daemonettes should look like naked Jessica Alba clones with pincers or crab claws or knives in both hands, but I don't. I'm also very satisfied with the new Daemonette cavalry sculpts. I think the mounts look great and their grace reminds me of the new Dark Elf Cold Ones (the best GW cavalry model to date).

As far as the seekers go I think we mostly agree that the Steeds are looking good. The issue that I (and many others it seems) have is that the riders have dropped the ball.

Now, I will point out that we are only looking at 3 of the possible riders and there are undoubtedly more possibilities especially if it a plastic kit. On the other hand, even if the others riders epitomize the speed and grace expected of Slaaneshi riders these 3 will stick out like a sore thumb.

Best case: GW has once again picked the worst sculpt/color scheme to advertise their kit and the others are OK.
Worst case: All the riders will look like this.

I'm not holding my breath.

My $0.02.

Not a fan of the Horrors. They look very cartoony to me, and that head spike/thing makes them look like "Buu" from Dragonball. Hmm...Buu Horrors, anyone?

Seekers are solid sculpts, but I agree the riders look like someone took the existing plastics, trimmed off the tab, then stuck them on the mount. They don't look like they're *riding*, at least not at any speed.

Fateweaver has a fairly static pose, but appears to be nicely sculpted.

The DP probably deserves a closer look at the sprue. As assembled and pictured, it doesn't look as nice as the metal version, but different bitz might improve things. And really, GW wasn't really out to make it "better", but to move it to plastic and allow it to serve both games.

i actually am glad about the horrors. i was really worried when i heard they were being made into plastics, as the metals are just so damn good. Now, ive never liked to bloodletters so the blood crushers dont really bother me whether its metal or plastic if im honest. What i really like about the currant incarnation of the horros, is the fact that they have feathers, and beaks amongst their number. I think its a really nice addition. Hello new tzeentch daemon army ^^

I still miss the old daemonettes though. I only managed to get one seeker and one daemonette before the new (well at the time) ones were released...

I can see it! I can see it all! The conversions oh Allfather the conversions. Christ on a crutch I don't even play chaos and I think I'm going to get one and go to town on it.

Therion wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:I think you're mistaking your taste for fact. You don't like them. Okay. Other people do. I do, for one. I'm looking forward to picking up a few boxes.

I agree with you. I for one have always prefered the 'new' Daemonettes to the somewhat childish Diaz sculpts. Juan Diaz is no doubt the second best sculptor that GW has working for them and his Daemonettes didn't disappoint a lot of people but there was no real Slaaneshi feel to them. In my view the Daemonette models that replaced Diaz' models are excellent sculpts and fit the supposed alien appearance of Daemonettes better. I'm sure someone thinks that Daemonettes should look like naked Jessica Alba clones with pincers or crab claws or knives in both hands, but I don't. I'm also very satisfied with the new Daemonette cavalry sculpts. I think the mounts look great and their grace reminds me of the new Dark Elf Cold Ones (the best GW cavalry model to date).

+1!!!

I have very rarely found fault with GW's sculpting, the exception being of course with the Biovore and some metal daemon sculpts (beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slannesh, Greater Khrone Daemon, Lord of Change)

Klawz wrote:

I have very rarely found fault with GW's sculpting, the exception being of course with the Biovore and some metal daemon sculpts (beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slannesh, Greater Khrone Daemon, Lord of Change)

The current metal daemon sculpts arent bad, they are just difficult. The lord of change model is a pain in the ass to assemble and get it standing on the base. And i happened to buy a rather old one off of ebay and it was an old style base which was completely flat. Made pinning a real bugger, but the models themselves look good imo.

mrwittwer wrote:

Klawz wrote:

I have very rarely found fault with GW's sculpting, the exception being of course with the Biovore and some metal daemon sculpts (beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slannesh, Greater Khrone Daemon, Lord of Change)

The current metal daemon sculpts arent bad, they are just difficult. The lord of change model is a pain in the ass to assemble and get it standing on the base. And i happened to buy a rather old one off of ebay and it was an old style base which was completely flat. Made pinning a real bugger, but the models themselves look good imo.

IMO the model is too scrawny. The body is this tiny thing, completly out of proportion with the rest of it. I once made an awesome concept sketch for a new LoC, but the majority was covered in a long cloak that merged into its wings.

Klawz wrote:
I have very rarely found fault with GW's sculpting, the exception being of course with the Biovore and some metal daemon sculpts (beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slannesh, Greater Khrone Daemon, Lord of Change)

The new metal Beast of Nurgle is ass.

It just needs a metal speech bubble that says "derp, derp"

The beast or nurgle looks like a model that just can't be depicted in a 2d image - hopefully it works in person.

Hopefully the soul grinder gets optional torso's.

Lol,just kidding. That'd be cool though. A keeper of secrets on top of a defiler would be awesome

What i was worried about when i heard a new wave of daemon releases were pending, was that they would remake the plague bearers and horros to hark back to their older models. I mean, im sure everyines noticed that the current daemonettes have a certain asthetic similar to the old 'big claws' daemonettes, and the same is with the blood letters. However, im glad they didnt do that with the horrors. I would have cried. Plague bearers (if they are to be rereleased) arent much of a change between the older versions, than with the currant ones.

Well the keeper of secerets is a big wuss, I think I have played one 40k game where I actually got to kill him. He almost always flies off after the first wound.

Lorne wrote:Well the keeper of secerets is a big wuss, I think I have played one 40k game where I actually got to kill him. He almost always flies off after the first wound.

I think you mean the Fateweaver, right?

lol wow I think its time for a coffee, I just re read, Yes I ment the special LOC model fateweaver as Klawz was commenting that it was too scrawny.

Next time I will rethink that one.

Monster Rain wrote:

Lorne wrote:Well the keeper of secerets is a big wuss, I think I have played one 40k game where I actually got to kill him. He almost always flies off after the first wound.

I think you mean the Fateweaver, right?

Lorne wrote:lol wow I think its time for a coffee, I just re read, Yes I ment the special LOC model fateweaver as Klawz was commenting that it was too scrawny.

Next time I will rethink that one.

I thought it was some crack about how the KoS has access to Hit & Run.

Speaking of, anyone else notice that Mephiston has nearly the same profile as a Keeper of Secrets?

WTF. The new horrors look like a cross between Majin Buu and Slimer from Ghostbusters. Just horrible.

Valhallan42nd wrote:The new metal Beast of Nurgle is ass.

It just needs a metal speech bubble that says "derp, derp"

Rob Schneider is... a Beast of Nurgle! Derp!

Therion wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:I think you're mistaking your taste for fact. You don't like them. Okay. Other people do. I do, for one. I'm looking forward to picking up a few boxes.

I agree with you. I for one have always prefered the 'new' Daemonettes to the somewhat childish Diaz sculpts. Juan Diaz is no doubt the second best sculptor that GW has working for them and his Daemonettes didn't disappoint a lot of people but there was no real Slaaneshi feel to them. In my view the Daemonette models that replaced Diaz' models are excellent sculpts and fit the supposed alien appearance of Daemonettes better. I'm sure someone thinks that Daemonettes should look like naked Jessica Alba clones with pincers or crab claws or knives in both hands, but I don't. I'm also very satisfied with the new Daemonette cavalry sculpts. I think the mounts look great and their grace reminds me of the new Dark Elf Cold Ones (the best GW cavalry model to date).

I completely agree, the new daemonettes capture the horror of chaos far better than the old ones. My only gripes with them is the fairly static poses they have.

tokugawa wrote:and this picture is from one issue of White Dwarf...

Last time I asked about that pic I was told it was a conversion and not the new plastic DP ...

Totally digging the plastic power armored DP, even if I have 3-4 of the metal one kicking around various armies. Here I have so much angst about 8th edition fantasy's still birth, and The Dub serves up such a nice tasty hunk of sci-fi demon

- Salvage

Hmmm....I don't see any atrocities. Actually, I like all those models.


The Seekers are what I'm waiting for. I'm not really keen on the current poses though. But, the riders are an easy fix. I've already converted some regular daemonettes into sexier diaz-nette inspired riding poses. Just cut them at the knee, plastic weld the lower legs at a new angle, apply putty. You shouldn't even need to pin them.

I'll be removing the saddles as well, though. My girls ride bare-back. I just hope we get a good number of alternate heads, as the new ones are pretty sweet. So, what do you think 5 seekers in a box for $25 like Cold Ones Knights. I sure hope so!

when would they release the new codex of chaos daemons >any rumors ? new miniatures...new codex...

usa_supersonic wrote:when would they release the new codex of chaos daemons >any rumors ? new miniatures...new codex...

Well Codex Chaos Daemons is actually fairly new, and with all of the GK, DE, and Necron rumors i would be quite shocked if Chaos Daemons were to be released any time soon.

usa_supersonic wrote:when would they release the new codex of chaos daemons >any rumors ? new miniatures...new codex...

My guess is that the next version of Codexaemons will be that wrapped into Codex:Chaos, when the pendulum swings back hard and regifts chaos space marines, renegades, mutants and their demonic allies one brutally awesome book to rule them all. ETA: 5-10

(Though in all seriousness I don't think a new C:CSM / Legions is too far out of line. Feels about time, and (dark) lord knows the current 'dex is a pile compared to the xenos and OMG 1337 MARINES books of late.)

These new daemon models are part of 'Wave 2' for the daemon line. I haven't quite figured out why The Dub chooses to release a second wave when they do - take the newest orc 'wave' (ripple more like) - but it doesn't have to do with new books.

- Salvage

Meh, a new CSM book would be okay,but I'm too lazy to change my black legionnaires into another army to accommodate new rules. I have a feeling that the legion system will be >9000 times better next codex

Sersi wrote:Hmmm....I don't see any atrocities. Actually, I like all those models.


The Seekers are what I'm waiting for. I'm not really keen on the current poses though. But, the riders are an easy fix. I've already converted some regular daemonettes into sexier diaz-nette inspired riding poses. Just cut them at the knee, plastic weld the lower legs at a new angle, apply putty. You shouldn't even need to pin them.

I'll be removing the saddles as well, though. My girls ride bare-back. I just hope we get a good number of alternate heads, as the new ones are pretty sweet. So, what do you think 5 seekers in a box for $25 like Cold Ones Knights. I sure hope so!

So I was right that they're easily converted. Thank you.

personaly i like the the deamon prince ecept his back pack but it a deamon release not a choas space marine release
also i realy hop the blood crusher is plastic it wounldnt make sence for gw to keep the current one but it is GW

No new codex, it's just new models, and let me tell you It's been a long time wait. Horrors were terrible models, and the Seekers, I'm tired of trying to find old school nipple models and then paying a lot of money to acquire. Other models I hope they replace other models or create some, specifically:
Unclean one, this is the cruddiest model ever, I said screw it a purchased the Forgeworld one.
Plaguebearers, I just want this to go plastic.
Releasing actualy individual specific models for Heralds. I don't like the kits that come with the troop models.
Nurglings
Blue Scribes, I had to make this from scratch but was never satisfied with the result.
Redo Epidemius.
finally all the named Greater Daemons.


I can't wait, super excited.