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Could we get a close up picture of the Forgeworld receipts as well? I think that would be a good nail in the coffin as proof?

Lord.Serpius wrote:

RiTides wrote:

TBD wrote:To be honest I am not sure how a phone call of even a picture with ID would prove anything anything at this point, after having had time to orchestrate possible shenanigans.

That's why I pushed to get a call this morning. I really believe there is a Susan involved in the ebay and paypal accounts- just not that that's the person who was communicating with me here this morning.

I missed a call from a real number, then received a voicemail from a private number (something Matt always used when calling me as well). The voicemail is a woman who left a brief message identifying herself as Susan.

As mentioned, though, at this point it's kind of meaningless- as the communication in this thread progressed, I think it shows that there was no (legitimate) reason not to somehow provide proof earlier. However, people can decide for themselves... I've said more than enough on the subject.

You did just what I said you would. I went to get the proof you wanted, faster then we even agreed and its not good enough?

Here is my DL



Here is me holding it:



Here is me holding the bags:



I have emailed you the versions without my face blocked as none of these people need to see me as you and I agreed.


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CT GAMER wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Give me a moment while I upload these pictures

No problem Matt...

Are you just plain slowed? Did your mother drop you on your head?

Apparently you might have been the one dropped if you think any of your story is believable.

I can get a lady i know/pay to hold some bags and take a few pic too. Picson the interwebz prove nothing.

Temper, temper Matt/Mrs. Bonder/lady for hire...

haendas wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

That is only one part of the equation. It is the combined impression from all of the factors that convey such low probability. Sure there is a good chance that multiple TTG ebay stores operate in the Dallas area, but the odds go lower and lower when you add in the rest of the factors and that was the point. Is Bonder in Mesquite?

Ive provided all the proof im not him even as far as calling RiTides who didnt pick up even after I called a 2nd time after leaving a voicemail. I am in Mesquite. Bonder is Dallas from what this thread says but to be fair, Mesquite is part of Dallas County.

Anyways, im done replying to this thread. I posted my proof everyone asked me for and even emailed versions without my face blocked to RiTides.

But it wont matter, I see you guys clearly made up your minds. Before even looking at the proof too.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

haendas wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

That is only one part of the equation. It is the combined impression from all of the factors that convey such low probability. Sure there is a good chance that multiple TTG ebay stores operate in the Dallas area, but the odds go lower and lower when you add in the rest of the factors and that was the point. Is Bonder in Mesquite?

Ive provided all the proof im not him even as far as calling RiTides who didnt pick up even after I called a 2nd time after leaving a voicemail. I am in Mesquite. Bonder is Dallas from what this thread says but to be fair, Mesquite is part of Dallas County.

Anyways, im done replying to this thread. I posted my proof everyone asked me for and even emailed versions without my face blocked to RiTides.

But it wont matter, I see you guys clearly made up your minds. Before even looking at the proof too.

So long Matt...

Sekai wrote:Could we get a close up picture of the Forgeworld receipts as well? I think that would be a good nail in the coffin as proof?

I just posted the requested proof and Mr Ct Gamer already called me Matt. Even with a picture of me holding my ID that has the same info as my ebay and paypal. I also called RiTides and based on his comment here, he didnt pick up because he thought I was Mr Bonder?

Explain this to me anyone. How is my store linked to Bonder in anyway shape or form? Have I not provided all the proof everyone asked for? Why am I still being treated this way?


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CT GAMER wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

haendas wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

That is only one part of the equation. It is the combined impression from all of the factors that convey such low probability. Sure there is a good chance that multiple TTG ebay stores operate in the Dallas area, but the odds go lower and lower when you add in the rest of the factors and that was the point. Is Bonder in Mesquite?

Ive provided all the proof im not him even as far as calling RiTides who didnt pick up even after I called a 2nd time after leaving a voicemail. I am in Mesquite. Bonder is Dallas from what this thread says but to be fair, Mesquite is part of Dallas County.

Anyways, im done replying to this thread. I posted my proof everyone asked me for and even emailed versions without my face blocked to RiTides.

But it wont matter, I see you guys clearly made up your minds. Before even looking at the proof too.

So long Matt...

Are you seriously slowed? I JUST POSTED A PICTURE OF ME WITH MY ID and CALLED RiTides, so how the hell am I Bonder?

All I'm saying is that if the name on the forgeworld papers matches the name on the ID Card, that's pretty hard evidence that you aren't some lady off the street?

I have no idea where the evidence is that your store is linked to him. I checked out the original post when it was first made and couldn't find any references to your store, so I can't help you there.

Cyporiean wrote:That is a much better DL picture then I have Susan

My picture is ok but its sorta old and ive gained a lot of weight.

Here is a picture of the invoice from FW in my name as well that was requested:





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Sekai wrote:All I'm saying is that if the name on the forgeworld papers matches the name on the ID Card, that's pretty hard evidence that you aren't some lady off the street?

I have no idea where the evidence is that your store is linked to him. I checked out the original post when it was first made and couldn't find any references to your store, so I can't help you there.

I posted the FW invoice just for you Sekai

I too cant find anywhere in that link the guy posted that shows my store. That's why i've asked now over 10 times for someone to show me proof that my store and Mr Bonder are linked. No one has and no one can because I don't even know the person! All I know of him is from this thread!

Based on the DL, Ms. Beasley was born in a year that ends in a 2 (I believe February of '52 but I'm not 100% on that). I don't think it is mathematically possible for her to be 57 as previously claimed.

I appreciate it. Hopefully that will convince some people to what I believe is the truth.

haendas wrote:Based on the DL, Ms. Beasley was born in a year that ends in a 2 (I believe February of '52 but I'm not 100% on that). I don't think it is mathematically possible for her to be 57 as previously claimed.

Ooo smart guy caught me not wanting to admit my real age of 60. Damn you people are insane. Ive given everything asked for and i'm treated like a criminal.


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Sekai wrote:I appreciate it. Hopefully that will convince some people to what I believe is the truth.

It wont. Look at these people. CT gamer is even saying pictures prove nothing. So my call and voicemail to RiTides proved nothing either?




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inquisitorlewis wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:Ok people. Im driving right now to my sons work. I will get the phone, call RiTides, and take the picture of me and my DL.

Be back shortly with it and I will be expecting apologies all around!

I can't help but to think a full picture of those FW invoices would have saved you a car trip.

Yea, did that too for you guys and its not good enough either. Do you all really think im Bonder, went and found a lady with the exact name I would use to make an ebay and paypal account or is it more likely that's simply me and not one of you can provide proof that im him..

The link that even says where my store link came from shows nothing. Ive looked and so has Sekai. So please do tell me what proof anyone has since i've had to spend all day proving who I am only to be told I'm a man with balls.

Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:That is a much better DL picture then I have Susan

My picture is ok but its sorta old and ive gained a lot of weight.

Here is a picture of the invoice from FW in my name as well that was requested:





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Sekai wrote:All I'm saying is that if the name on the forgeworld papers matches the name on the ID Card, that's pretty hard evidence that you aren't some lady off the street?

I have no idea where the evidence is that your store is linked to him. I checked out the original post when it was first made and couldn't find any references to your store, so I can't help you there.

I posted the FW invoice just for you Sekai

I too cant find anywhere in that link the guy posted that shows my store. That's why i've asked now over 10 times for someone to show me proof that my store and Mr Bonder are linked. No one has and no one can because I don't even know the person! All I know of him is from this thread!

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Here's a few emails susan/Matt sent me this morning:

#1
From: Red the Conversionist
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:32 AM
To: Minton Family
Cc: rick and sue minton
Subject: Yup I read that thread

And I just laughed my ass off! You linked to a person thats not even me, just like that stupid mexicangeneral guy. Dallas has over 1 million people Rick. They all arent me!

And now to say some ebay seller with what seems to be a perfect rating is me is pretty messed up. All you have done now is made sure dakka net nerd go and screw that seller over. Good job rick, ruining some random strangers life!

God your an idiot. Feel free to post this as well.


#2
From: Red the Conversionist
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Minton Family
Cc: rick and sue minton
Subject: HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA you linked some random persons ebay store dumbass and man are they getting flamed on Dakka LOLOLOL

You are so fething stupid Rick


Sorry it's taken me so long to jump back into this thread.
Anyone interested in any info, please feel free to pm me.
I have no problem calling someone/being called reguarding
this issue. just give me a bit. i have to go get my phone from my son.....

Cyporiean wrote:Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

I bow to your mastery.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

haendas wrote:Based on the DL, Ms. Beasley was born in a year that ends in a 2 (I believe February of '52 but I'm not 100% on that). I don't think it is mathematically possible for her to be 57 as previously claimed.

Ooo smart guy caught me not wanting to admit my real age of 60. Damn you people are insane. Ive given everything asked for and i'm treated like a criminal.


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Sekai wrote:I appreciate it. Hopefully that will convince some people to what I believe is the truth.

It wont. Look at these people. CT gamer is even saying pictures prove nothing. So my call and voicemail to RiTides proved nothing either?

Well, it is one more lie/false statement/whatever you want to call in a string of statements that contradicted each other. Alone it is simply a case of "for some reason I care about strangers knowing how old I am and that is more important to me than clearing my name", but together with everything else it just makes you more suspicious.

I will accept the pictures and will lean towards believing that you are Susan. But with the timing of jumping on this thread and the "I don't know nothing about no internet and computers but i am monitoring random threads that talk about a random scammer that lives in the same county as I do to make sure that I don't get sucked into this mess" story I still believe that is something shady going on. I don't have any proof, and I am not going on some holy internet crusade to bring down your name and your eBay store, but I know that I am going to stay clear of your stores and if somebody were to ask me about them I would simply tell them "Smells fishy but I don't have any proof. She does have positive feedback so buy at your own risk."

Cyporiean wrote:Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

Ever thought about becoming a PI?! Nice catch......
What about it Susan/Matthew?

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

alarmingrick wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:That is a much better DL picture then I have Susan

My picture is ok but its sorta old and ive gained a lot of weight.

Here is a picture of the invoice from FW in my name as well that was requested:





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Sekai wrote:All I'm saying is that if the name on the forgeworld papers matches the name on the ID Card, that's pretty hard evidence that you aren't some lady off the street?

I have no idea where the evidence is that your store is linked to him. I checked out the original post when it was first made and couldn't find any references to your store, so I can't help you there.

I posted the FW invoice just for you Sekai

I too cant find anywhere in that link the guy posted that shows my store. That's why i've asked now over 10 times for someone to show me proof that my store and Mr Bonder are linked. No one has and no one can because I don't even know the person! All I know of him is from this thread!

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Here's a few emails susan/Matt sent me this morning:

#1
From: Red the Conversionist
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:32 AM
To: Minton Family
Cc: rick and sue minton
Subject: Yup I read that thread

And I just laughed my ass off! You linked to a person thats not even me, just like that stupid mexicangeneral guy. Dallas has over 1 million people Rick. They all arent me!

And now to say some ebay seller with what seems to be a perfect rating is me is pretty messed up. All you have done now is made sure dakka net nerd go and screw that seller over. Good job rick, ruining some random strangers life!

God your an idiot. Feel free to post this as well.


#2
From: Red the Conversionist
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Minton Family
Cc: rick and sue minton
Subject: HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA you linked some random persons ebay store dumbass and man are they getting flamed on Dakka LOLOLOL

You are so fething stupid Rick


Sorry it's taken me so long to jump back into this thread.
Anyone interested in any info, please feel free to pm me.
I have no problem calling someone/being called reguarding
this issue. just give me a bit. i have to go get my phone from my son.....

Because its my sons work address and its not needed here. Thats why its blocked out. Oh and look its the guy that started this. I have gone to the link you keep posting and it shows nothing to do with me or my store. Same with the emails. Its great to see someone laughing at me over all this garbage.

gunslingerpro wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

I bow to your mastery.

Yep, thats right, taken with a camera. Just like I said I would have to do and exactly why I drove to my sons work.

alarmingrick wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

Ever thought about becoming a PI?! Nice catch......
What about it Susan/Matthew?

This method also shows me the address on her forgeworld invoices matches.

Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

Ive been asking that for going on 6 hours solid.


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Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:Once more into the Witch Hunt.

While the original photos were taken by a non-camera source, most likely a webcam as the quality is about on par with the one I use to talk to Alf, Warone, and Chowder with. The new batch was taken with an Olympus FE190/X750.

How do I know this? The same way I can tell that Susan's is not quiet 60 (her birthday has not passed yet), the EXIF data is intact, including the thumbnail generated by her camera.

Ever thought about becoming a PI?! Nice catch......
What about it Susan/Matthew?

This method also shows me the address on her forgeworld invoices matches.

Matches? You mean how they were taken with the same Camera? Yea they were, I just drove to get the Camera to take the pictures asked for.

Now i'm just confused.

Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

The first link says - "Hordes of Forge World Bits for grabs! [eBay] [USA]"
takes you to Member id "double.your.bits " on ebay. as far as i know, no
other members of MWC are in Dallas. Why would the reddit page for MWC
link to Susan's ebay page? If she had a connection to MWC she would have
explained it i feel.

I have to admit it's funny calling Matt, she!

alarmingrick wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

The first link says - "Hordes of Forge World Bits for grabs! [eBay] [USA]"
takes you to Member id "double.your.bits " on ebay. as far as i know, no
other members of MWC are in Dallas. Why would the reddit page for MWC
link to Susan's ebay page? If she had a connection to MWC she would have
explained it i feel.

I have to admit it's funny calling Matt, she!

Please post a link to the link your talking about. I don't see it.

Unfortunately, these mean nothing to me, since you had to buy the time to take them and refused to do any of these things (call, take a pic, etc) this morning. I have no doubt that Susan is real, and pictured here (I've said this a number of times). Ebay and Paypal are too good for that to happen. I just don't believe that that's the person typing these posts.

No one's going to be convinced further either way, as far as I can tell- but at least the evidence is out there for people to make their own determination, whichever way they see it (I respect Cyporiean a lot, and we just see this differently).

My point, though, is that Susan being a genuine person doesn't prove anything at this point. If you go back in the thread, the issue is that the person posting here wasn't Susan- shown by their taking all kinds of pics with a web cam, but being unable to take one of their license, or of themselves, or to call until later... presumably when Susan could show up. That's my opinion...

The phrases you've used, as I posted, are identical to those I received from "Matt" and "Damien" via email. Particularly "Are you drunk or high?". A favorite refrain of Matt's, that I haven't had anyone else ever use with me...

It's a shame this got so drama-filled, but a scammer using multiple identities will do that... it's hard to track down the truth, and for my part, you didn't convince me. I won't go on about it, but I figured I would post since you put this all in the thread.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

The first link says - "Hordes of Forge World Bits for grabs! [eBay] [USA]"
takes you to Member id "double.your.bits " on ebay. as far as i know, no
other members of MWC are in Dallas. Why would the reddit page for MWC
link to Susan's ebay page? If she had a connection to MWC she would have
explained it i feel.

I have to admit it's funny calling Matt, she!

Please post a link to the link your talking about. I don't see it.

Try this, it only appears using Google Cache for me.

Here

In detail here, someone left a comment, but as you can see it was "submitted by [deleted]".

Fortunately Goggle cache as linked above lets us see that it was submitted by MWC (Matt Bonder) advertising your eBay.

alarmingrick wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

You forgot to show the address on the invoice Matt. It should match the DL address.

Here's what started some of this discussion:
http://www.reddit.com/user/MiniatureWargameCo/submitted/

Susan/Matt explain why MWC's reddit it page is connected to that ebay seller?
That shows me MWC/Matt/Susan are connected through reddit. Why would MWC link to some
poor retired lady's ebay sellaer account?

Where? not seeing a post for Susan's ebay store..

The first link says - "Hordes of Forge World Bits for grabs! [eBay] [USA]"
takes you to Member id "double.your.bits " on ebay. as far as i know, no
other members of MWC are in Dallas. Why would the reddit page for MWC
link to Susan's ebay page? If she had a connection to MWC she would have
explained it i feel.

I have to admit it's funny calling Matt, she!

you appear to be seeing things..

See it now.

Cyporiean wrote:

DeadBabySoup wrote:Right, those phrases just don't work with an elderly, church going woman ritides, that's what I was trying to get at with my tone comment.

Sure they do.

http://www.flaglerchat.com/forum/

^This forum is filled with those sort of people, and I'm sure you find numerous posts that use that type of grammar and tone. Just because your mom's LOLCAT forwards aren't in this style doesn't mean others aren't

my moms LOLCAT? derp what?

and yes 57 year old, devout women run around all the time and accuse people of being high when in a discussion!

please wake up!

Sekai wrote:..the first link says
[Lantz's Corner] Necron Codex Review: Part II - Generic HQs and Retinue

Which is the same thing it said this morning when I first checked this.

Oh crap, I check this post every so often? That must mean I'm Matt too!

Check the Cached version posted above. It's very clearly there. Which makes it more suspicious that it is now gone.

RiTides wrote:Unfortunately, these mean nothing to me, since you had to buy the time to take them and refused to do any of these things (call, take a pic, etc) this morning. I have no doubt that Susan is real, and pictured here (I've said this a number of times). Ebay and Paypal are too good for that to happen. I just don't believe that that's the person typing these posts.

No one's going to be convinced further either way, as far as I can tell- but at least the evidence is out there for people to make their own determination, whichever way they see it (I respect Cyporiean a lot, and we just see this differently).

My point, though, is that Susan being a genuine person doesn't prove anything at this point. If you go back in the thread, the issue is that the person posting here wasn't Susan- shown by their taking all kinds of pics with a web cam, but being unable to take one of their license, or of themselves, or to call until later... presumably when Susan could show up. That's my opinion...

The phrases you've used, as I posted, are identical to those I received from "Matt" and "Damien" via email. Particularly "Are you drunk or high?". A favorite refrain of Matt's, that I haven't had anyone else ever use with me...

It's a shame this got so drama-filled, but a scammer using multiple identities will do that... it's hard to track down the truth, and for my part, you didn't convince me. I won't go on about it, but I figured I would post since you put this all in the thread.

I did everything you wanted and then extra and you still blacklist me as being Mr Bonder?

Ok well, that's your choice. You guys have fun harassing innocent people with zero connection to Mr Bonder.

See it now. Dunno.

Sekai wrote:See it now. Dunno.

All I see is something that is not from me. Think whatever you all want to think.