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inquisitorlewis wrote:I don't think they are attacking your character so much as questioning your identity. I also am quite sure that this can be cleared up. Once it is cleared up I would expect apologies. Nobody is trying to hate on you Susan. They are just concerned you are someone else.

I see clearing this up as a good thing for your business. In the end no publicity is bad publicity. Especially once you show who you are, and that the site made a mistake. I would kill (not literally) to have all these people look at my store link. Especially after showing them that I was completely on the level.

That right there Mr Lewis is why I offered to send a copy of my DL to RiTides before he even asked. We arranged a time and he gave me the number. Now he changes what he wants and is mad I cant do it as fast as hed like. I will call the second I have a phone to use. He can hear im a woman and quiz me all he wants. I will also take the picture of my ID AND me holding it.

Like ive said, I will do that tonight, in the next few hours once my son is home.

Other then that, yes, a great many people here ARE attacking my character and have even said multiple times that i Mr Bonder. How is that not attacking me?

FYI My feedback shows im on the level. I shouldn't have to keep defending every single thing people here say all because they dont read the posts ahead. But yet here I am, wasting my entire day away with this garbage.

d-usa wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

d-usa wrote:

filbert wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

d-usa wrote:I like how Susan stated earlier that she doesn't know how to use fancy technology, then stated that she doesn't need a phone because she can use her computer for calls, then states she can't call after all.

RELAY CALLS. Ever heard of IP relay?

Something your average 57 year old woman knows lots about, clearly....

Especially a woman who states she wouldn't know how to Skype.

I never said I don't know how to skype. I never said anything about it. Nice try putting words in my mouth.

You people are insane.

You also said you couldn't call without your sons phone, and just now admitted you can call from your computer. So which is it?

IP Relay is a text to voice (and Vice-Versa) program for the deaf and hard of hearing, its not the same thing as Skype Calling.

Did you see my post?

Ok people. Im driving right now to my sons work. I will get the phone, call RiTides, and take the picture of me and my DL.

Be back shortly with it and I will be expecting apologies all around!

cmon, let's cut the BS, I don't know Matt bonder or would want to but I definately know this isn't a woman. The language is all off, and a mother wouldn't get her son's age wrong on an email because those things are important to them, especially one who is elderly and is doing all this to help out her sons hobby.

In the world of writing, it is very difficult for a man to write in a feminine tone, and it's much easier for a woman to write in a masculine tone. This is a prime example of the former, plain as day. A retired woman who has some knowledge of the internet and business, as well as who works for a local church would not have grammar issues such as what has been presented here.

What further validates this is the length in which the man-woman has gone to defend itself... this just simply doesn't happen in the real world, why would an elderly, church going woman care about what a few people think on a website as her ebay feedback says enough to validate her business. Why push the issue to such lengths?

all this, coupled with what ritides as deciphered, plus add in all the other bits...

uh yea, houston, this woman has balls...

Lord.Serpius wrote:Ok people. Im driving right now to my sons work. I will get the phone, call RiTides, and take the picture of me and my DL.

Be back shortly with it and I will be expecting apologies all around!

I can't help but to think a full picture of those FW invoices would have saved you a car trip.

She also changed from "I won't call you now" to "I can't call you now"

You'd rather drive to your sons place of work to make a phone call than just take a pic with a webcam. I know the cam isn't up to much, but from the photos you've taken I think RiTides will be able to distinguish a 30 year old man from a 57 year old woman.

Her or it or whatever driving to where it can access a phone and or camera proves absolutely nothing it this point.

No point in any more comments until RiTides gets back, guys. Lets hold off until then.

Lord.Serpius wrote:Oh yay, ebay already replied back with a number for a supervisor to call tomorrow, directly.

With that, ill finish proving who I am then I'm done with this thread and frankly, this entire area of Dakka now that I know ebay will take care of anyone harassing me based on this thread.

Look, while there is some oddness going on, I'm just going to say the fact that Lord S thinks ebay is going to take some... unspecified action based upon a thread on Dakka Dakka; kinda lends credence to the fact this is maybe an older woman with a tenous/basic grasp of computing technology. That's not a personal attack, I'm simply saying that would be consistent with how someone like my mom would think things work on the internets.

I think we should try and maybe be a little more open-minded that this person is being honest and neither is, not knows, Matt Bonder; and simply had a small confluence of honest but suspicious-sounding circumstances.

Stepping back is probably a good idea- but the past several pages are pretty convincing (to me). I've stopped posting because I don't want to force my opinion here... however, statements like this:

Can none of you read?

how dare you. You have no proof. no evidence no nothing. BECAUSE IM NOT HIM.

Are you drunk or high?

You people dont read do you?

Nice try putting words in my mouth.

You people are insane.

Are almost verbatim with what communications always turned to with Matt, from my experience. The grammar has also not been very good here. The lack of capitals, use of all caps... maybe others who have communicated with him via email can comment on this.

I've said my piece and don't have more to add, but I think the continuing postings of Lord.Serpius speak for themselves.

It does seem odd.

Also, just what is eBay is "going to do" about all this?

I WISH I had used eBay in dealing with Matt - he wouldn't have been able to pull the crap he did if they were involved in the sale of goods.

"Susan" doesn't have to worry about any eBay sales shenanigans on sales for the same reason - if some one buys and doesn't pay, they get dinged. I they buy, pay and she ships with tracking numbers, she's covered.

The system works fairly well...

Alpharius wrote:It does seem odd.

Also, just what is eBay is "going to do" about all this?

I WISH I had used eBay in dealing with Matt - he wouldn't have been able to pull the crap he did if they were involved in the sale of goods.

"Susan" doesn't have to worry about any eBay sales shenanigans on sales for the same reason - if some one buys and doesn't pay, they get dinged. I they buy, pay and she ships with tracking numbers, she's covered.

The system works fairly well...

Yup, the system does actually work well. Both for buyers and sellers.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Now he changes what he wants and is mad I cant do it as fast as hed like.

He did not.You demanded this be taken care of before monday and Rtides gave you alternate ways to clear this up.

To be honest I am not sure how a phone call of even a picture with ID would prove anything anything at this point, after having had time to orchestrate possible shenanigans.

Matt can just have his aunt call, or pay some hobo lady he happens to know called Susan ten bucks to voice him or be in the picture.

Whichever way this goes, RSO provides for yet another entertaining thread to read at work

@lord serpius please give links to all your ebay seller accounts and list your email addresses that are linked to paypal accounts and i will personally contact ebay and paypal to have those accounts investigated to ensure your trading legitimately and thus clear your name.

heck i'll even get the IRS in on things to make sure your 100% legit after all i would love to clear your name.

Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

Right, those phrases just don't work with an elderly, church going woman ritides, that's what I was trying to get at with my tone comment.

I believe the ebay comment refered to using this thread to bolster evidence of people harassing her/him/it should it also begin on ebay or through ebay channels, not that ebay would take action against this thread (a paper trail if you will).

DeadBabySoup wrote:Right, those phrases just don't work with an elderly, church going woman ritides, that's what I was trying to get at with my tone comment.

Sure they do.

http://www.flaglerchat.com/forum/

^This forum is filled with those sort of people, and I'm sure you find numerous posts that use that type of grammar and tone. Just because your mom's LOLCAT forwards aren't in this style doesn't mean others aren't

Cyporiean wrote:

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

That is only one part of the equation. It is the combined impression from all of the factors that convey such low probability. Sure there is a good chance that multiple TTG ebay stores operate in the Dallas area, but the odds go lower and lower when you add in the rest of the factors and that was the point. Is Bonder in Mesquite?

helium42 wrote:So, Lord S., are you posting on your computer? Or on a mobile device with a small touch screen? Or both? And if you are posting on a mobile device with a small touch screen, why can't you use that device to call RiTides?

This stuck out to me as well. Wondering if we'll have an update tonight. Though I hope this is all a misunderstanding, from a writer's perspective, Lord's sentence structure, vocabulary patterns and even indentation style (lines of text rather than blocks) points to a similar if not same source as Matthew Bonder.

That isn't to say that I'm an expert or that it is conclusive, just that it is highly likely that Lord is an UnSub male <40 years of age.

Shouldn't we wait until RiTides and Lord.Serpius have communicated? That way we avoid getting the thread locked.

haendas wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

haendas wrote:Seriously, what are the odds?
a) someone running an ebay bits business in the same town is mentioned
b) said business person just happens to be stalking this thread
c) they respond with an extremely strong desire to distance themselves from Bonder
d) they fail to provide any concrete proof that they are not Bonder despite the strong desire to distance themselves and the numerous methods in which that proof could be provided

Those things combined seem so entirely remote that it is just hard to believe they are unrelated.

Dallas is not a small town... if this was Friendswood I could see having two TTG ebay stores in the same town as being fishy, but not one of the largest cities in the state.

It'd be like saying Wyrd and Sodapop are the same people, since they are both in Atlanta.

That is only one part of the equation. It is the combined impression from all of the factors that convey such low probability. Sure there is a good chance that multiple TTG ebay stores operate in the Dallas area, but the odds go lower and lower when you add in the rest of the factors and that was the point. Is Bonder in Mesquite?

I've seen Bonder's address online before and the postcode (zip?) places him a bit less than 20 miles away from L. Serious on Google maps.

TBD wrote:To be honest I am not sure how a phone call of even a picture with ID would prove anything anything at this point, after having had time to orchestrate possible shenanigans.

That's why I pushed to get a call this morning. I really believe there is a Susan involved in the ebay and paypal accounts- just not that that's the person who was communicating with me here this morning.

I missed a call from a real number, then received a voicemail from a private number (something Matt always used when calling me as well). The voicemail is a woman who left a brief message identifying herself as Susan.

As mentioned, though, at this point it's kind of meaningless- as the communication in this thread progressed, I think it shows that there was no (legitimate) reason not to somehow provide proof earlier. However, people can decide for themselves... I've said more than enough on the subject.

Oh my god you people are insane.

I Got the pictures RiTides wants.

I even called the man and he refused to pick up so I left a voicemail.

Here, ill go ahead and post them all except the picture of me here, that one can go to RiTides.

As for being 20 miles away from Mr Bonder, what does that mean in a city of 1.3 million people?

Give me a moment while I upload these pictures for the people that even with proof out your ears, want to slander my name.

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Give me a moment while I upload these pictures

No problem Matt...

RiTides wrote:

TBD wrote:To be honest I am not sure how a phone call of even a picture with ID would prove anything anything at this point, after having had time to orchestrate possible shenanigans.

That's why I pushed to get a call this morning. I really believe there is a Susan involved in the ebay and paypal accounts- just not that that's the person who was communicating with me here this morning.

I missed a call from a real number, then received a voicemail from a private number (something Matt always used when calling me as well). The voicemail is a woman who left a brief message identifying herself as Susan.

As mentioned, though, at this point it's kind of meaningless- as the communication in this thread progressed, I think it shows that there was no (legitimate) reason not to somehow provide proof earlier. However, people can decide for themselves... I've said more than enough on the subject.

You did just what I said you would. I went to get the proof you wanted, faster then we even agreed and its not good enough?

Here is my DL



Here is me holding it:



Here is me holding the bags:



I have emailed you the versions without my face blocked as none of these people need to see me as you and I agreed.


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CT GAMER wrote:

Lord.Serpius wrote:

Give me a moment while I upload these pictures

No problem Matt...

Are you just plain slowed? Did your mother drop you on your head?

That is a much better DL picture then I have Susan