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+1 INV confirmed true. The deepstrike Stratagem will be incredible once we get confirmed FW Rules. I wanna deep strike 2 Telemon with fists more than anything.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
+1 INV confirmed true. The deepstrike Stratagem will be incredible once we get confirmed FW Rules. I wanna deep strike 2 Telemon with fists more than anything.

A Galatus would be good with that too: Drop in a contemptor with a shield and watch it suck up a wall of firepower.

Yep. Very true. I just like how Telemon look more, and accept that as a weird opinion lmao

Loving what I'm seeing so far at least this makes the choice between spears and swords+boards an actual difficult decision. Hope they unveil some anti-armor/anti-flyer options soon.

So will a Custodes with Sentinel Blade and Stormshield potentially have a 2++?
That would be insane.

Nope, best they can get is a 3++

It's important to know if the terminators have a base 4++ though, because that'd be a big deal.

Holy moly.

I'm seriously digging these rules!

From Bolter and Chainsword:

Warhammer Live is going to have Friday's [probably Thursday since Warhammer Live is likely leaving for Vegas on Friday] Battle Report as Custodes VS Thousand Sons (the latter having their first advance preview of the codex during the battle).

 Galas wrote:
Ok then. Spear custodes. The trade of a 3++ for a 5++ wasn't worth the extra shooting power and +1 strenght in meele. But the difference between 3++ and 4++ is much more palatable.

And they now hit on 2+ when shooting.

 nordsturmking wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Ok then. Spear custodes. The trade of a 3++ for a 5++ wasn't worth the extra shooting power and +1 strenght in meele. But the difference between 3++ and 4++ is much more palatable.

And they now hit on 2+ when shooting.

You are right, I didn't noticed that. Yeah, now Spear-Custodes are a legitimate choice vs Sword+Shield.

 BrookM wrote:
From a fluff POV the Sisters of Silence are quite understrength and have been cut off / hidden away from the Imperium for millennia, fighting their own war against heresy and psykers from the shadows until someone flipped the Sister-signal and had them all regroup on Terra.

Let me quote Watchers of the Throne:

He is calling his daughters home.

The signal has been flipped, and by the end of it we have Sisters of Silence back on Terra, but not under the Telepathica (apparently the Telepathica dropped the ball there back during the events with the Beast and the current High Lord even laments that fact).

Goldstrike-pattern teleportarium...*

Do I smell wolf again?

Biggest thing for me is that that minimum unit size of five has been dropped to three, as predicted. I might just get to take a battalion like that and still go crazy on Terminators. This change also happens to go well with my existing Custodes.

Edit: *Actually it's Godstrike. I think GW has finally done it. I'm seeing things and can't read their names straight anymore...

 Geifer wrote:
Goldstrike-pattern teleportarium...

Do I smell wolf again?

Biggest thing for me is that that minimum unit size of five has been dropped to three, as predicted. I might just get to take a battalion like that and still go crazy on Terminators. This change also happens to go well with my existing Custodes.

It says "GODstrike", not "GOLDstrike".

shade1313 wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Goldstrike-pattern teleportarium...

Do I smell wolf again?

Biggest thing for me is that that minimum unit size of five has been dropped to three, as predicted. I might just get to take a battalion like that and still go crazy on Terminators. This change also happens to go well with my existing Custodes.

It says "GODstrike", not "GOLDstrike".

So it is, as edited above.

 Ghaz wrote:
Part 2 - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/16/adeptus-custodes-preview-part-2-troopsgw-homepage-post-2/

That is filthy. So basically all custodes have demon saves? Nice.

 Geifer wrote:

Edit: *Actually it's Godstrike. I think GW has finally done it. I'm seeing things and can't read their names straight anymore...

You're not alone. But with this passage before...

It’s something of a tradition of the Adeptus Custodes to deliver golden death from the doors of an equally golden Land Raider. From Golden Light They Come, on the other hand, opens up new deployment options for your Custodian Guard, as well as other units in your army.

... it's forgivable I guess.

I'm pretty glad to have 10 Custodian Guard on sprues at home. I'd been meaning to put them together with shields but couldn't bring myself to, as I prefer the spears so much.

I'm curious to see how much space the terminators take up in a land raider. Actually it might be that the best use of the LR is as a place to deploy all your characters at the start of the game, to reduce the number of drops you have and impove your chances of going first. Alternatively, if the standards really do give penalties to shoot at nearby units, you'll obviously want them deployed.

This could be quite a fun army all round. Now looking forward to seeing what FW brings to the table.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

Edit: *Actually it's Godstrike. I think GW has finally done it. I'm seeing things and can't read their names straight anymore...

You're not alone. But with this passage before...

It’s something of a tradition of the Adeptus Custodes to deliver golden death from the doors of an equally golden Land Raider. From Golden Light They Come, on the other hand, opens up new deployment options for your Custodian Guard, as well as other units in your army.

... it's forgivable I guess.

Yeah. Too much gold in one place. And I say that as the proud owner of a golden Baneblade.

I look forward to what they have in the way of alternative color schemes in the codex. I don't have a genuine golden army yet so that's actually my go to choice at the moment, but if something else were to catch my eye...

I mean, like the Inquisition Custodes are as Imperial as it gets so black, white, red and gold always work. I'd hate to see them become even more like Marines with every color of the rainbow making it into the official background. It would be cool get get some variety with a decent background explanation, though.

Mandragola wrote:
I'm pretty glad to have 10 Custodian Guard on sprues at home. I'd been meaning to put them together with shields but couldn't bring myself to, as I prefer the spears so much.

Same here. I couldn't bring myself to assemble mine for the dying days of 7th ed and didn't trust GW enough to make the Index (or Talons of the Emprah) the definitive rule source for Custodes.

I'm itching to assemble my models, but it seems a bit rash so close to the codex release. At least it looks like I don't have to feel stupid for choosing spears over paddles and shields on the couple of models I did assemble.

Uhhh, so that deep strike strat is already broken I think? It's 1CP/3CP but deployment is normally considered "before the battle" so you could just use it unlimited times at 1CP, right?

Audustum wrote:
Uhhh, so that deep strike strat is already broken I think? It's 1CP/3CP but deployment is normally considered "before the battle" so you could just use it unlimited times at 1CP, right?

No, the stratagem says it can only be used once per battle and you can argue that the arrival is when you 'use' the stratagem so only two could arrive by the stratagem no matter how many you put in reserve.

Audustum wrote:
Uhhh, so that deep strike strat is already broken I think? It's 1CP/3CP but deployment is normally considered "before the battle" so you could just use it unlimited times at 1CP, right?

The stratagem specifically mentions once per game (so two units max).

Audustum wrote:
Uhhh, so that deep strike strat is already broken I think? It's 1CP/3CP but deployment is normally considered "before the battle" so you could just use it unlimited times at 1CP, right?

No because it states you can only do it once.

It's quite good but not game-breaking. 9" charges are very difficult, after all. It will let you get off a good round of shooting with spears though.

Audustum wrote:
Uhhh, so that deep strike strat is already broken I think? It's 1CP/3CP but deployment is normally considered "before the battle" so you could just use it unlimited times at 1CP, right?

it says it must be used before battle and can only be used once.

I hope there is some super salty Eldar out there that Imperium gets Ob Sec jet bikes and they dont

 LunarSol wrote:
Sworn Guardians is probably the most interesting rule of the bunch, particularly on the bikers. Emperor's Chosen is neat, but seems pretty unnecessary. Shouldn't they have just buffed or renamed Aegis? Good rule though; curious what it will do to the Spear vs Sword/Board choice.

Emperor's Chosen is the rule for when the army is battleforged. That's why it's seperate

changemod wrote:
It's important to know if the terminators have a base 4++ though, because that'd be a big deal.

Leak guy says they have a 5++ (Despite Cataphractii armour)
Which goes up to 4++

Rumor for the missile variant of the jetbike: Duel firing modes. Either heavy1 St.8, AP4, D6 damager, or HeavyD3, st7, Ap1


Looks like a legitimate vehicle hunting pack. I'd like to know what their lances do since their axes are stength8. My guess is +1 strength, increased damage on the charge.

 Galas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
From a fluff POV the Sisters of Silence are quite understrength and have been cut off / hidden away from the Imperium for millennia, fighting their own war against heresy and psykers from the shadows until someone flipped the Sister-signal and had them all regroup on Terra.

Actually reading their "codex" from 7th edition they are much numerous than the Custodes. They have been reformed and since the Heresy have been... increasing their numbers. The number they give in that book is "tenths of thousands". But I agree that by their own nature, they are too "Niche" of an army to work as a standalone. They should be mixed with the Custodes.

Whilst I think its important that we have something other than an Imperial or Chaos Dex next - there is no reason not to make Sisters of Silence a full army in the same way as Custodes or also started with a single unit.

If there are tens of thousands of them - well thats way more than any snowflake Marine Chapter.

Personally I would prefer Sisters of Battle fist but I would not be suprised by a SOS army / Codex now.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
I hope there is some super salty Eldar out there that Imperium gets Ob Sec jet bikes and they dont

Yeah... me

This is all so sweet, Im super glad I magnetised all of my Custodes weapons.

On a side note - theres a dude on Bolter & Chainsword talking about taking Celestine to give all his Custodes a further +1 invuln, so spears with 3++. Her rule only works on SoB right? I can't find anything to say otherwise but no one is correcting him, and he has talked about it twice. I also recall seeing someone else describe a similar idea using her.

changemod wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
+1 INV confirmed true. The deepstrike Stratagem will be incredible once we get confirmed FW Rules. I wanna deep strike 2 Telemon with fists more than anything.

A Galatus would be good with that too: Drop in a contemptor with a shield and watch it suck up a wall of firepower.

That's the first thing I'm gonna do xD Get a pumped up Space Wolf sword & board dread on the table without it having to walk all the way. I find the Galatus to be an incredible looking model so this would be an awesome excuse to pick it up