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...And the UCM are getting a Titan...

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TBH, the smaller scales are great for having giant stuff in, which is a shame that Dropzone didn't have any until now.

Buuut, the that thing looks more 40k than Dropzone.

   
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I'm a little disappointed they didn't have a tracked base for the UCM, purely for aesthetic theme.

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Looks like a minor reinterpretation of that green Lucius Warlord titan that GW likes to use as cover art.

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I get a metal gear solid vibe from It as well. I like it.

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I think it really works for the UCM. I hope the resistance behemoth takes some design ideas from the P1500 "monster"
   
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Teaser Tuesday – UCM Behemoth Special!

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Teaser Tuesday – UCM Behemoth Special!

For a month now, the PHR and Scourge have been dominating the battlefield thanks to their Behemoths. Well the UCM did not approve of this one bit! Therefore this Friday the United Colonies of Mankind are joining the big boys club.

This Teaser Tuesday we have a Dropzone Commander special dedicated to the latest additions you’ll be able to add to your tabletop. The UCM America is certainly the largest miniature we’ve made for this faction and like the previous Behemoths, it’s among the biggest Dropzone miniatures ever.


UCM Behemoth

The UCM Behemoths are the crowning jewel of Mankind’s armies. These Heavy Battle Mechs currently have two classes in active deployment with the America pictured above. This classification sports a pair of mighty UMH-1 Mass Drivers which is the pinnacle of Railgun technology. These weapons are as tall as an apartment block if stood upright and powerful enough to tear through the toughest opposition armored machines.

Like all Behemoths, the UCM’s second Behemoth class offers an alternative to the America’s weaponry and combat style, but we’ll cover that another time. Wouldn’t be fun to reveal everything today and besides we have one more thing to tease.

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I don't understand how it walks. Like I can't visualize its gait. What do the back foot things do? Is it a quadruped?
   
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slyphic wrote:
I don't understand how it walks. Like I can't visualize its gait. What do the back foot things do? Is it a quadruped?
Either it does a weird shuffle, or they're anchors for when it's shooting.
   
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Just a guess but I think that when it's moving those back legs probably fold up out of the way and it walks like an ED-209, and the back things are just stabilisers for when it's fining its main weapons.

For what it is I quite like it, but I still think the Behemoths don't really fit in the relatively 'hard' sci-fi setting. It's hard to believe that the same faction that puts it's tank guns on extendable arms with a low profile chassis so they can fire from concealed positions builds something as ridiculous as this.

   
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Yeah but once you've got weapons the size of its main guns you likely can't hide them all that well. Even the energy signature of such weapons is likely hard to mask. So if you can't hide it go insane with armour and shields and such.

As for the legs the pose its in there is clearly its "stop, brace, fire" stance. The rear parts of the legs would fold up a bit and the whole unit likely rises up when walking. It likely only uses those rear parts for shooting stability when stationary rather than as part of its moving

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I wish there were pics of it from the rear. And the UCM walker needing stabilizer stubby heel things just makes you think "why the feth isn't it a tank".

If it gets M&F 0" on the weapons, stabilizers would make sense. If not, then it doesn't. I guess we know Friday?

   
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It should either be a Bolo-sized tank or massive dropship-sized attack aircraft. The complexity and surface area of a torso-arms-and-legs configuration doesn’t make sense in a universe so heavily invested in the idea that everything on the battlefield was built to be transported cost-effectively.

The Scourge and the Shaltari can get away with these huge walkers a little more easily due to their tech level and biology/psychology. PHR is full post-human nanowank, so it’s not a bit of a stretch. But for baseline human armies, this feels like a huge waste of resources.


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That said, it’s one sexy mecha, and I l’e buy one for 35 pounds just to have it.

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The background talks about these being big morale boost type units, but suggests they are few and far between and never really that effective on the battlefield.

A bit like battleships in WW2, they were a status symbol but didn’t win the war for anybody.

it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it. 
   
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UCM Behemoth Ready to Drop

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UCM Behemoth Ready to Drop


Colonial might strides forward!

It’s the the UCM’s turn to unleash their Behemoth!


Continuing the releases of the biggest kits in Dropzone Commander, the UCM America and Japan make their way onto the store tomorrow! These kits keep the same incredible level of detail that Dave puts into all his kits.

Don’t just take my word for it, check out our 360 degree turnaround.




The UCM don’t normally take the legged option when it comes to vehicle design, but the Behemoth’s take a bit of a unique place in UCM combat doctrine. Equally as much a recruitment and propaganda piece as they are a combat vehicle, they’re the ultimate poster child for the reconquest.

About the legs. Dave’s made these in a way that gives you a lot of freedom in posing, with ball joints in the hips and many, many axles in the leg joints. Each leg comes to about 18 parts. Advanced kits indeed!



The Rules
“But what do its guns do?” I hear you cry.

We’ll get to that.

First up we have to talk about the hull itself. The UCM Behemoth chassis may not sport as many weapons as some of its counterparts, but it makes up for it with grim determination and a “get off my planet” attitude. Also armour. A lot of armour.



Both variants of the UCM Behemoth use this statline, with a respectable initial move, the standard UCM active countermeasures, and more armour than any other unit in the game. Only the mightiest of weapons can crack the armour on this massive war machine. Though once you’ve managed to take down a threshold on its Hull, it suddenly becomes more manageable.

With 8 separate damage thresholds, the UCM Behemoth sits in between the Scourge and PHR Behemoths. With both Hull and Weapons needing 9 damage to take out each threshold, it might be easier to cripple its legs, then focus on another zone.

Though some weapons can chew through even Behemoths or Armour 16. For those, taking out the Hull first could be the most sure fire way of taking this thing down. It takes 9 damage to Hull to reduce its Armour to 14, the same as a PHR walker. It then takes a further 9 damage (which should be easier now thanks to the aforementioned A14) to reduce its Armour to 12. Once you’ve broken through all that armour, you’ve also taken out the carapace weapons as well. A nice two for one that makes taking out the Hull a kind of attractive prospect.

The UCM Behemoth’s legs are is weakest Zone. 3 damage points each makes for a decent amount of spillover damage. If you take out all of the legs, that’s one threshold on Hull or Weapons almost half gone already. Not only does this Behemoth become immobile when the legs are taken down, it also loses its Leg Stabilisers rule.



Given good firing lines, the UCM Behemoth can be incredibly accurate, though at the cost of needing to remain stationary that round.

The weapon zone is fairly straight forward. 2 thresholds, each taking one of its main armaments offline. It may not seem like much, but when you have railguns as long as a building is high and firing rounds the size of a skip at you, you might consider taking one out.

The Weapons
UCM propaganda might have you believe that the America is accurate enough to shoot the juice box out of a scourge warriors hand at 60km. Or that the Japan’s rate of fire is enough to gut a bulk lander and its contents in under 4 seconds. We’re not interested in the UCM’s propaganda today, but we are interested in what these weapons can do on the tabletop.



The America is equipped with a pair of UMH-1 Mass Drivers. These things are as tall as a building and can put out a hell of a lot of hurt. Each one covers the front and a side at a range of infinite. They may only be a single shot, but with an Accuracy of 1+ and re-rolls of 1’s if the Behemoth plants its feet, you won’t be missing often. Energy 13 makes it through most armour, with Devastator-5 (All) putting the hurt on whatever is at the end of the barrel. These guns are great against large targets, but not so great at clearing out waves of smaller tanks.



That job is better worked by the America’s Missile Batteries. These are the two carapace mounted missile launchers capable of spreading E10 devastation over an area. Still capable of dealing with a single tank, or putting a few points of damage onto a building, they’re very much a secondary weapon to the Mass Drivers.



Shared between both the America and Japan, the Gatling Cannon Batteries are the 3 rotary cannons either side of the main hull. Firmly tertiary weapons, you won’t be killing many tanks with these. Though they make for decent damage against infantry foolish enough to come close to a wall in view of a Behemoth.





The Japan’s main weapons are its UMH-9 Stormcrow Cannons. Much shorter range than the Mass Drivers, these are designed to take down structures and fortifications. They should have no problem doing so with 6 shots and Devastator-2 (Scenery). While these are much less accurate than the Mass Drivers, the Stormcrow Cannons can Focus for a bit of extra Energy.



The Heavy Munitions Hailfire are the secondary weapons and main anti-Behemoth weapons. Though not as damaging as the America’s Mass Drivers, they still pack a respectable punch. The downside is that they are Limited (2) and M&F 1″.

Stat Sheets
Just like the PHR and Scourge Behemoths the UCM Behemoth will have their own stat sheets and damage tracking sheets. These make tracking damage super easy, with plenty of space for counters or tokens. Our favourite way of keeping track is to laminate these and use dry-erase markers to scribble out boxes when the Behemoth takes damage!

That’s all the rules for today, full stats go up on the web builder and download sections on Friday!

Dave’s pulled out all the stops with these units, and we can’t wait to see what you think of them. Which of these are you going to be using in your games of Dropzone Commander? Which one do you look forward to blowing up the most? Can you believe we’ve gone this whole post without a Metal Gear reference?

We’ll be back with release information on Friday, in the mean time you can find the rest of the range over on the TTCombat webstore!



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The Japan's guns make it look even more like the Lucius-pattern Warlord Titan.

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Wait. In the Battle for Earth book, wasn’t the Japan class a “Russia” class?

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I assume it drops itself from Orbit...
   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Wait. In the Battle for Earth book, wasn’t the Japan class a “Russia” class?


Yep. 100%. It is almost like if a country makes itself an international pariah that has all kinds of knock-on consequences. Including losing your name references in niche tabletop wargames!
   
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Yep. Interestingly, it was still being referred to as the Russia class as recently as last week - they referenced it in one of the preview articles, it raised an eyebrow when I saw it as it seems a bad time to be giving a pariah state positive PR with a cool new robot. I'm guessing others probably felt the same and someone mentioned that it might not be the best idea to move ahead with it as the Russia class...

Personally, I would have gone with the Ukraine class instead, but that might be potentially more inflammatory if TTC has a Russian customer base that they are hoping to retain in the future.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Yep. Interestingly, it was still being referred to as the Russia class as recently as last week - they referenced it in one of the preview articles, it raised an eyebrow when I saw it as it seems a bad time to be giving a pariah state positive PR with a cool new robot. I'm guessing others probably felt the same and someone mentioned that it might not be the best idea to move ahead with it as the Russia class...

Personally, I would have gone with the Ukraine class instead, but that might be potentially more inflammatory if TTC has a Russian customer base that they are hoping to retain in the future.

Doubly so when the 'Russia' class was specialized in demolition. Just waaaaay too on the nose.

It's also not too hard to rename before release, as opposed to the Moscow class of heavy cruiser in Dropfleet

And I do know they have a Russia player base, as I've run across more than a few Russian language/hosted forum posts, yt videos, and blogs mentioning the Drop games. But also, I don't think they'll have a legal way to sell to those Russians anytime soon, so it's not a concern worth worrying about.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Yep. Interestingly, it was still being referred to as the Russia class as recently as last week - they referenced it in one of the preview articles, it raised an eyebrow when I saw it as it seems a bad time to be giving a pariah state positive PR with a cool new robot. I'm guessing others probably felt the same and someone mentioned that it might not be the best idea to move ahead with it as the Russia class...

Personally, I would have gone with the Ukraine class instead, but that might be potentially more inflammatory if TTC has a Russian customer base that they are hoping to retain in the future.


Oh man, now I really wish they had gone with Ukraine class instead!

Not that there is anything wrong with Japan.

And some of the Russian language players could be from Ukraine anyway, for what it is worth.

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Lexikon wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Yep. Interestingly, it was still being referred to as the Russia class as recently as last week - they referenced it in one of the preview articles, it raised an eyebrow when I saw it as it seems a bad time to be giving a pariah state positive PR with a cool new robot. I'm guessing others probably felt the same and someone mentioned that it might not be the best idea to move ahead with it as the Russia class...

Personally, I would have gone with the Ukraine class instead, but that might be potentially more inflammatory if TTC has a Russian customer base that they are hoping to retain in the future.



Not that there is anything wrong with Japan.


I'm sure the Chinese and Koreans would have something to say about that. They still remember WWII.
Yasukuni shrine is still a controversial topic.

I don't really mind, mind you. Russia or Japan is fine by me. It is, after all, just the naming convention for a fictional vehicle in a setting where a faction names their equipment after parts of their lost homeworld, set far, far into the future where any current conflict would just be page in a history book.
It's just changing the name for moral reasons to another name that also has some current geopolitical baggage behind it seems like an odd move.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
... the naming convention for a fictional vehicle in a setting where a faction names their equipment after parts of their lost homeworld, set far, far into the future where any current conflict would just be page in a history book.

I decided since the UCM name their ship classes after cities, I'd name my specific ships after notable governors of those cities.

The Tokyo class battleship Yuriko Koike
The Johannesburg class battlecruiser Jolidee Matongo

And I had to fight the urge to name a Berlin class light cruiser the Julius Lippert, because while hundreds of years in the future Nazis are no more scandalous than Teutonic Knights or Burgundians, I'm living in the now and I don't want to appear a crypto-fascist. (I went with the Eberhard Diepgen, so the crew could crack wise about 'the Ever-Hard' and because he seems relatively innocuous)

Researching mayors has been kinda fun.
   
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Research is fun in general. You never know what you're going to find next.

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The UCM Behemoth is £95, and on a 2 week pre-order - will begin to ship out on 10/06/22.

   
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There's some really disappointing blank flat surfaces on the back of the model.



I had to double check, there's nothing like that on either the PHR or Scourge ones. Hate to say it, but this looks like either Dave rush jobbed it, or their casters just weren't up to snuff.

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slyphic wrote:
There's some really disappointing blank flat surfaces on the back of the model.



I had to double check, there's nothing like that on either the PHR or Scourge ones. Hate to say it, but this looks like either Dave rush jobbed it, or their casters just weren't up to snuff.


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I wonder if the not-Warlord/Japan has the same problem on the back of its guns?

They both are going to have that ugly ass nub though.
   
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I’m looking forward to seeing the Shaltari one.
   
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