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 Dysartes wrote:
I'd love to see some cyber-emus in Necro, though
Finally, a sensible comment in this thread.
   
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 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I'd love to see some cyber-emus in Necro, though
Finally, a sensible comment in this thread.

Sensible would've been cyber-cassowary's.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The map is cute but honestly the world is not enmeshed in some binary Imperial vs Metric war.

Different countries and industries use the measurements they're used to and may use several systems at once. In the US liquids might be sold in liters or gallons. In the Philippines people gave their heights in feet and inches not centimeters. In Japan inches are used for some odds and ends like TV sizes. In China older measures of weight like the Jin and Liang are used for selling food. In Guyana roads were in Kilometers but villages were named for their mile markings (ie 47 mile village, 47 miles down the road from the coast to Brazil). Shipping containers around the world are measured in feet, oil in barrels (including in the Arab world), cargo in shipping tons (cubic feet). Paper is rated in how many pounds a ream (500 pages) weighs. Ships use Knots, nautical miles (1.15 miles). Measurement is an important an complex subject and there is no single world wide system for all countries and industries.


I feel like any post about oddball measurement that doesn't mention Commonwealth countries and their stones is incomplete! I don't know if Aussies still use that but it was common back when I lived there in the 80s. It sounds almost biblical in its usage and would go great with measuring your height in hands.


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 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I'd love to see some cyber-emus in Necro, though
Finally, a sensible comment in this thread.


Indeed. I feel like a ratling cook riding one would be an appropriate hired gun.

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In my defence regarding the ”inches not allowed in localized/translated rules/instructions in Japan”- thing - I have read about in several threads on Dakka, including:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/423174.page

… where it said that GW first changed to measurements in cm due to the ”Japanese law of weights and measures” denying them to use inches - and that GW then reverted back, circumventing the rules by renaming inches to Movement Values (MV).

I.e. I read it on the Internet so it must be true

Also the ”civilized world” was just a lame poke to stir some emotions. Still true though.
   
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 warboss wrote:

I feel like any post about oddball measurement that doesn't mention Commonwealth countries and their stones is incomplete! I don't know if Aussies still use that but it was common back when I lived there in the 80s. It sounds almost biblical in its usage and would go great with measuring your height in hands.



I had a friend swear to me that measuring weight in Stones was far, far better than pounds or kilos and took a lot of stress off of women checking their weight from day to day or week to week.


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 kendoka wrote:
In my defence regarding the ”inches not allowed in localized/translated rules/instructions in Japan”- thing - I have read about in several threads on Dakka, including:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/423174.page

… where it said that GW first changed to measurements in cm due to the ”Japanese law of weights and measures” denying them to use inches - and that GW then reverted back, circumventing the rules by renaming inches to Movement Values (MV).

I.e. I read it on the Internet so it must be true

Also the ”civilized world” was just a lame poke to stir some emotions. Still true though.


Oof, between Games Workshop Japan and a 9 year old Dakka thread those are some pretty heavy weight sources on your side.

But I have WIKIPEDIA!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_units_of_measurement

Imperial units are sometimes used in Japan. Feet and inches are used for most non-sport bicycles, whose tyre sizes follow a British system; for sizes of magnetic tape and many pieces of computer hardware; for photograph sizes; and for the sizes of electronic displays for electronic devices. Photographic prints, however, are usually rounded to the nearest millimetre and screens are not described in terms of inches but "type" (型, gata). For instance, a television whose screen has a 17-inch diagonal is described as a "17-type" (17型) and one with a 32-inch widescreen screen is called a "32-vista-type" (32V型)

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There is also the actual law:

http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail/?id=3027&vm=2&re=02

(TL: DR, they have one xD)

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I've just opened up the hive scum and it's weird that there are female bodies in the set, but none of the heads look female....

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Well they're not the ones who lost to Vietnamease rice farmers and Talibans with an upgunned Toyota and some guns from the 50s.


Weird because I keep hearing how useless AR-15s are at fighting a government but a bunch of goat farmers that can't count to 3 using 50 year old surplus AKs were able to fight our government for 20 years and eventually win.

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 Albertorius wrote:
There is also the actual law:

http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail/?id=3027&vm=2&re=02

(TL: DR, they have one xD)


Did you minor in obscure asian law during your weebternship or is your google fu just over 9000!?!? That's one serious thread deep cut.
   
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StraightSilver wrote:
I've just opened up the hive scum and it's weird that there are female bodies in the set, but none of the heads look female....


That’s more GW weird scale and there inability to do hair. Having a look at the painted pic may help.
   
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 Toofast wrote:


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Well they're not the ones who lost to Vietnamease rice farmers and Talibans with an upgunned Toyota and some guns from the 50s.


Weird because I keep hearing how useless AR-15s are at fighting a government but a bunch of goat farmers that can't count to 3 using 50 year old surplus AKs were able to fight our government for 20 years and eventually win.


See, AR=/=AK.
Soviet weapons are just better.

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Please get back on topic, which is N&R for Necromunda.

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3 of the heads are definitely female, possibly 4.

The possible one is the one with the cowboy face scarf, difficult to tell because most of the face is covered.

You can tell because GW female heads always have less heavy brow, less deep set eyes, less definition around the eyes and mouth and a smaller mouth/chin/jaw area. The still can look a bit manly sometimes, but if you directly compare them to the male heads its fairly obvious.

Also bare in mind they are probably going to look pretty tough if they are hardened gang fighters in a 40k hive setting, and less soft feminine looking
   
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Outcasts Gang is back on GW's UK site.
   
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And the US online store too

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Who's making 3d party heads that will fit the new outcast gang bodies?

GW as usual has issues making the females.



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beast_gts wrote:
Outcasts Gang is back on GW's UK site.


Firestorm Games have a few boxes too.

Given the apparent popularity I wonder if we will see a weapon sprue for them. I am having trouble using my left over house gang arms on them, the Genestealer Cult arms work a treat though.


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beast_gts wrote:Outcasts Gang is back on GW's UK site.

privateer4hire wrote:And the US online store too


Lucky you guys. Japan still hasn't even been able to pre-order anything from that release...

Grot 6 wrote:Who's making 3d party heads that will fit the new outcast gang bodies?

GW as usual has issues making the females.


I think someone earlier in the thread said that it uses standard Guardsmen Infantry/Genestealer Neophyte fittings. Do those not fit?


   
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 Grot 6 wrote:
Who's making 3d party heads that will fit the new outcast gang bodies?


For me, the real question is where to find suitable ”civilian” arms, i.e. with open hands, holding tools, carrying stuff, etc.
Blood Bowl kits are an excellent source for empty hands - but also a very expensive one...

I want to build ordinary Necromudians, similar to these (but more grimdark):
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-cyber-forge-anniversary-titan-city-citizens-182423

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 Jack Flask wrote:


Grot 6 wrote:Who's making 3d party heads that will fit the new outcast gang bodies?

GW as usual has issues making the females.


I think someone earlier in the thread said that it uses standard Guardsmen Infantry/Genestealer Neophyte fittings. Do those not fit?


Neophytes and Skitarii do, Cadians not (though it's not that difficult to convert).
   
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Hmm... Outcast gangers can take weapons and wargear from the trading post, not just wargear.

Interesting...

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 kendoka wrote:


For me, the real question is where to find suitable ”civilian” arms, i.e. with open hands, holding tools, carrying stuff, etc.
Blood Bowl kits are an excellent source for empty hands - but also a very expensive one...

I want to build ordinary Necromudians, similar to these (but more grimdark):
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-cyber-forge-anniversary-titan-city-citizens-182423


Maelstrom's Edge Broken have 'empty' hands, and their weapons look fairly tool like.

Spoiler:





They're the best option for grimdark civilians I've seen.

But Reapers various Bones Townsfolk are also very good. Because they're already in civilian poses it's easy to add some sci fi grubbings to turn a fantasy bartender into a SPACE bartender.

Spoiler:
   
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Outcasts are back in stock in the GW online store.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... Outcast gangers can take weapons and wargear from the trading post, not just wargear.

Interesting...

Everyone used to do that and many still do.

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Baxx wrote:
Everyone used to do that and many still do.
I know everyone used to do that, but most now certainly do not.

For all 6 of the main gangs, their gangers (and the Redemptionist ganger) are limited to weapons from their specific list, and Wargear from the trading post. Regular Gangers in a Venator gang (ie. Hunters) pick everything from the trading post. Palanite Patrolmen can only choose weapons from their list. Corpse Grinder Skinners can only have stuff from their lists. Helot Cultists appear to have the same rules. Aberants and Neophyte Hybrids again seem to follow the same rules. Underhive Outcast Scum specifically say weapons and wargear from the trading post, which appears unique to them compared to gangers from most of the above (again, Venators are specifically different) which all say some variation of just wargear from the trading post. I'm sure I'm forgetting one... ah! Slave Ogryn. Again, limited to weapons from their list, but wargear from list and the trading post. There is a proviso for non-campaign games where they can take whatever they want from any source.

The Outcast Scum are unique here. They shouldn't be though, because every ganger should have the same fething rule about weapons from the trading post...

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
They can buy fancy guns but they can’t take skills until they get specialist.
You mean the Outcast Scum?

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Baxx wrote:
Everyone used to do that and many still do.
I know everyone used to do that, but most now certainly do not.

For all 6 of the main gangs, their gangers (and the Redemptionist ganger) are limited to weapons from their specific list, and Wargear from the trading post. Regular Gangers in a Venator gang (ie. Hunters) pick everything from the trading post. Palanite Patrolmen can only choose weapons from their list. Corpse Grinder Skinners can only have stuff from their lists. Helot Cultists appear to have the same rules. Aberants and Neophyte Hybrids again seem to follow the same rules. Underhive Outcast Scum specifically say weapons and wargear from the trading post, which appears unique to them compared to gangers from most of the above (again, Venators are specifically different) which all say some variation of just wargear from the trading post. I'm sure I'm forgetting one... ah! Slave Ogryn. Again, limited to weapons from their list, but wargear from list and the trading post. There is a proviso for non-campaign games where they can take whatever they want from any source.

The Outcast Scum are unique here. They shouldn't be though, because every ganger should have the same fething rule about weapons from the trading post...

iirc several of the fighter types you mentioned can use weapons from the TP. Patrolmen even have a FAQ answer specifically dedicated to clearing that up.

You appear to be drawing your conclusions from reading the fighter entries in isolation, rather than including the preamble that precedes that section for each gang (which was where the ability to add TP weapons came from in the first place, and which was what changed in the "House of" books to disallow those gangers from doing the same).
   
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I'm actually pretty pleased with the outcast minis, why they make better cultists than the cultist box is beyond me.

Nonetheless, I built a sprue of them to use as Hive scum/lookouts and 1 as my Delaque infiltrator. I'll build the rest when the campaign calls for them. Using them as armed civilians shopping in the market getting caught in the crossfire, bodyguards for a smuggler that needs to be neutralized, etc...
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

For all 6 of the main gangs, their gangers (and the Redemptionist ganger) are limited to weapons from their specific list, and Wargear from the trading post. Regular Gangers in a Venator gang (ie. Hunters) pick everything from the trading post. Palanite Patrolmen can only choose weapons from their list. Corpse Grinder Skinners can only have stuff from their lists. Helot Cultists appear to have the same rules. Aberants and Neophyte Hybrids again seem to follow the same rules. Underhive Outcast Scum specifically say weapons and wargear from the trading post, which appears unique to them compared to gangers from most of the above (again, Venators are specifically different) which all say some variation of just wargear from the trading post. I'm sure I'm forgetting one... ah! Slave Ogryn. Again, limited to weapons from their list, but wargear from list and the trading post. There is a proviso for non-campaign games where they can take whatever they want from any source.

The Outcast Scum are unique here. They shouldn't be though, because every ganger should have the same fething rule about weapons from the trading post...

As Altruizine says, I think you're mistaken. The entirety of Chaos, Genestealer, Corpse Grinder, Enforcer, Venator, Outcast have TP/BM access. House gangs lost TP/BM access for juves and gangers (and only for weapons). Then there are Ogryns who don't have any access at all. To summarize, 6 gangs have full access, 1 gang has no access and 6 (house) gangs have partial access.

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