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So, it says a chaos rhino comes with a combi-bolter, and it can take one of each of the vehicle upgrade list.

So theoretically I can take a rhino with two combi-bolters, a a combi flamer/plasma/melta, AND a havoc launcher?

If so, with two people firing (presumably at least two special weapons) out of the access points, the rhino is looking to be a mini-firebase of hilarity.

haha that's true, I don't see anything so far that would hinder that besides movement.

Yep, nothing stopping you from doing this. Would be a pretty weird model and you'd be paying quite a bit for your rhinos, but still.

I have built all my Rhinos with a TL bolter and a Combi melta - for an extar 10 points it can be nice to have the potential of meltign a tank or kiling soemthign expensive.

Also, Rhinos tend to be ignored once they are empty. there's been a couepl of game where i've moved an empty rhino around to pop a tank in the rear armour.

Hmm, I forget I read my mates codex almost a week ago. Can a helldrake purchase options from the Vehicle upgrades? Just had an evil idea if it can.

 Bausk wrote:
Hmm, I forget I read my mates codex almost a week ago. Can a helldrake purchase options from the Vehicle upgrades? Just had an evil idea if it can.

It can't iirc, the only option is to switch the hades autocannon for the baleflamer

Why the surprise? Other rhinos can take 2 storm bolters. Granted, a combi melta on a rhino is pretty funny. But its been my experience that rhinos die turn 1 to get first blood.

No options for the heldrake.

You sir may have just helped me spend the last 38 points in my test 2k list. Three combi-meltas to go with fries, please.

Yup, Chaos Rhinos can sport some mean firepower. 2 Combi-bolters, Combi-melta/plasma, and a Havoc launcher. Thats more dakka then a Razorback has upclose. Of course its more expensive then most razorbacks.

Yes it is possible, no it is not feasible. If you are dumping that many points into your rhinos, you probably don't have enough models for your points level. Upgrade overload...

I don't think anyone is advocating spending over 100 points on a base 35 point metal box

Having an extra Combi-Bolter a Combi-Melta/Plasma and a Havoc Launcher - and probably Warpfire Gargoyles ( 5pts for Soul Blaze on everything! ) is 27-32pts, meaning a 62-67pt Rhino with 2 Twin-Linked Bolters, 1 Bolter, a one-shot Melta/Plasmagun and a twin-linked 48" Str5 Blast weapon. (Potentially all with Soul Blaze!)
That's pretty good imo.

Personally, I intend to run a Defiler with 2 Havoc Launchers and Warpflame Gargoyles.
With the option to run aCombi-Bolter, Combi-Flamer, Combi-Melta, Combi-Plasma aswell, for a pretty ridiculous amount of dakka. (albeit for 250pts)

The downside of that is that if you move and fire you will be shootign most of those weapons as Snapfire - whcih wont work for havocs as they are blast weapons.

Same with the dual havoc Defiler. if you shoot the Battlecannon you can shoot with the Havocs at all. Battlecannon = ordnance so everythgin else has to shoot using Snapfire.

My Defiler will be set up thusly - 1 with powerscourge and pwerfist (plus the first 2 powerfists) and a dirge caster, the other with a power scourge and a reaper autocannon (plus dirgecaster).

The Reaper can still shoot after the battlecannon, plus it's twin linked so has a half decent chance of rolling a 6 to hit. the dirge casters mean that when they get into charge range the target can't overwatch them. Plus the power scourges will reduce the targets WS dy D3.

 Praxiss wrote:
The downside of that is that if you move and fire you will be shootign most of those weapons as Snapfire - whcih wont work for havocs as they are blast weapons.

Same with the dual havoc Defiler. if you shoot the Battlecannon you can shoot with the Havocs at all. Battlecannon = ordnance so everythgin else has to shoot using Snapfire.

My Defiler will be set up thusly - 1 with powerscourge and pwerfist (plus the first 2 powerfists) and a dirge caster, the other with a power scourge and a reaper autocannon (plus dirgecaster).

The Reaper can still shoot after the battlecannon, plus it's twin linked so has a half decent chance of rolling a 6 to hit. the dirge casters mean that when they get into charge range the target can't overwatch them. Plus the power scourges will reduce the targets WS dy D3.

Defiler is a walker. You can move and shoot EVERYTHING.

Bzzzt, wrong. Reread the Ordnance rules, and come back here.

Except anything when the battlecannon goes off... ordinance...

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Bzzzt, wrong. Reread the Ordnance rules, and come back here.

Defiler is a Walker. Walkers are vehicles. He can move and shoot everything, just at a snap-shot.

Havoc launchers are blast, so he cannot fire them as snapshots

I misunderstood the post then - I thought they were discussing the posted version without Havocs.

Meh.

It was someone who was talking about 2 havoc launchers and being able to fire those plus the cannon.

It is quite cool how you can now add a coupel of combi bolters to the Defiler as well.

I'm just curious as to the reliability of them when they will have to roll 6's to hit after you shoot the cannon. i suppose the only time you wuodln't shoto the cannogn would be if you were about to charge and didn't want to risk it scattering back in your own face - at which point a couple of combi flamer could be a nice way to precede a charge.

I think Dirge Casters are a must now though.

You can only take 1 Combi Flamer.
But a Combi-Flamer + Combi-Bolter (or maybe plas/melta) would be fun. Expensive, but fun.

Well if you can have one of each then you could have a 4 bolters..(combi, combi-melta, combi-flamer and combi-plasma).

Dakka-Filer

 Praxiss wrote:
Well if you can have one of each then you could have a 4 bolters..(combi, combi-melta, combi-flamer and combi-plasma).

Dakka-Filer

Reaper autocannon, 2 havoc launchers and 4 combi-weapons (bolter, flamer, plasma, melta). Throw in some Warpflame Gargoyles for giggles. (Sure it's 250pts, but it's funny!)