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Maybe Republicans should just quit talking about rape:

"He also told me one thing, 'If you do (have premarital sex), just remember, consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry,' " Rivard said. "Because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant and the parents are madder than a wet hen and she's not going to say, 'Oh, yeah, I was part of the program.' All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underage. And he just said, 'Remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls,' he said, 'they rape so easy.'

"What the whole genesis of it was, it was advice to me, telling me, 'If you're going to go down that road, you may have consensual sex that night and then the next morning it may be rape.' So the way he said it was, 'Just remember, Roger, some girls, they rape so easy. It may be rape the next morning.'

"So it's been kind of taken out of context."

Can we get back to talking about fixing fething roads and gak?

 kronk wrote:
Can we get back to talking about fixing fething roads and gak?

We've never talked about that, we only talk about how we want to talk about that.

I meant Senators and gak.

I don't want to talk to you fethers about fething roads, just fething models and fething chicks...

Doesn't this feel just a tiny bit deliberate to you guys yet? I mean, these people aren't this stupid. They're really not.

 daedalus wrote:
Doesn't this feel just a tiny bit deliberate to you guys yet? I mean, these people aren't this stupid. They're really not.

Of course not all Republicans are this stupid, but some of them absolutely are. Same goes for Democrats and non-party affiliated people. Having intelligence in one area doesn't mean that one is intelligent in all fields. Just because one is an Engineer at the top of their field doesn't mean they know anything about balancing a budget or human interaction. To reiterate, yes, some people are this stupid.

 Ahtman wrote:
To reiterate, yes, some people are this stupid.

Yeah, some people are stupid in every field.

I'm not sure I like having this Topic on Dakka.... I don't think anyone in their right minds would endorse a statement like that so there isn't actually all that much to talk about here...

Locking -

The previous "legitimate rape" thread stayed open for quite a while.

I dunno, why lock it? The issue is that a point that might be valid, however misogynistic, was delivered in an extremely misogynistic way. The remark is not so much being taken out of context as it is reminding us of what that context really is.

 Manchu wrote:
I dunno, why lock it? The issue is that a point that might be valid, however misogynistic, was delivered in an extremely misogynistic way. The remark is not so much being taken out of context as it is reminding us of what that context really is.

Dang now my post looks stupid.

I already deleted it. Please don't spam the forum. Thanks ~ Manchu

Your post, like mine, was deleted, which is fair enough as neither provided anything really.

And are wet hens really that mad? My two hens seem quite docile and they've been rained on all day.

There, I've changed the title so no one could imagine the point of the thread is to promote what the comment ... well, seems to promote on its face.

Whilst the overwhelming majority of rape cases are legitimate, people do get falsely accused.

Which sucks as it can be seen to devalue rape as a "crime", when such a horrific act should never be devalued.

These comments are never any better in context.

Hrmmm.... well besides the way it was said being the WORST possible way to bring up that false reports of rape are a thing that certainly does happen and get innocent men in trouble... not sure what else there is to really say here.

Pretty much nothing I can think of.

I don't think it's Republicans that're stupid, just the occasional moron who doesn't think before he speaks.

Us regular folks call that kinda person a dick.

The fact there are sometimes false accusations of rape does not devalue the crime of real rape.

....did /anyone/ say that? Ever?

Yes, by implication.

I said it can be seen to, I don't agree that it does.

Far too many seem to think that though. (Far too many = more than 0)

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
....did /anyone/ say that? Ever?

No, noone would be that stupid, even if they privately thought it was all a little overblown and that women made too big a deal out of it... but some folks, particularly several prominent republicans of the hardline social right wing, have let slip some seriously eyebrow raising comments alluding to them finding rape a bit of a fuss over nothing.

Yeah I don't even really see where it was implied.


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Implied by a Dakka poster to be specific.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
....did /anyone/ say that? Ever?

No, noone would be that stupid, even if they privately thought it was all a little overblown and that women made too big a deal out of it... but some folks, particularly several prominent republicans of the hardline social right wing, have let slip some seriously eyebrow raising comments alluding to them finding rape a bit of a fuss over nothing.

Right no I'm aware of that big. Politicians + Mouths = Oh dear.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The fact there are sometimes false accusations of rape does not devalue the crime of real rape.

Right... but, the problem is... how do "we" know it was real?

Unless there's real evidence (rape kits in ED, bruising, etc...), it always falls into "he said, she said".

Here's some real-life stories about this...
http://www.theuniversityofman.com/blog/2012/10/8/mentus-history-of-sexual-assault.html

Solution to abortion:

If you are against it, don't have one.

Problem solved.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


Right no I'm aware of that big. Politicians + Mouths = Oh dear.

Yup... see Mr. Todd Atkins. If he was running against anyone other than McCaskill... he'd be losing by 30 points.


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 Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:
Solution to abortion:

If you are against it, don't have one.

Problem solved.

If you're against it, would you still pay for it?

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
....did /anyone/ say that? Ever?

Many young men I know, for one.


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 whembly wrote:

If you're against it, would you still pay for it?

I'm against dickheads receiving benefits, but I support the benefit system as a whole, so yes.

I'm also against wife-beaters receiving medical attention, but again, that's how the system works.

 Testify wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
....did /anyone/ say that? Ever?

Many young men I know, for one.


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 whembly wrote:

If you're against it, would you still pay for it?

I'm against dickheads receiving benefits, but I support the benefit system as a whole, so yes.

I'm also against wife-beaters receiving medical attention, but again, that's how the system works.

It hurts my soul, but I kind of agree with Testify on this.

I've been mulling this one over some more. In-context, the phrase "some girls rape easy" strikes a deeply grim note. It's suitable for a serious conversation between a dad and a son who's likely to soon be sexually active for the first time. From a father's point of view, his son needs to know that the world is definitely not what it ought to be. Are you Dakkanauts seriously never going to make a similar point to your sons? The real question is why can't we say this good, necessary advice in public? Human beings, not just girls and women, do change their minds about things that have already happened. Is it misandric for a parent to tell their daughter "some boys will want to rape you"? Girls need to hear that, obviously. It's true. And I can say that on TV.