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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 20:23:27
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Dakka Veteran
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I've been reading the new Chaos Space marine codex, but now I'm confused. The Deamon prince is listed as having - for a savings throw. I assume if I take the power armor upgrade he'll have a save of 3+ but what is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 20:30:32
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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The Daemon USR gives him a 5+ invuln and Fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 20:31:24
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Dakka Veteran
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That's what I thought. Thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 23:55:10
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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So you'd better take that power armour or he'll be gunned down quite quickly with his toughness 5 and 4 wounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/16 19:24:19
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Dakka Veteran
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And the already knocked the price up 145 points starting. I still like the DP as an HQ though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/16 20:03:27
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So not worth the points now :(
My DP's will on the sideline just in case I get a lucky roll on the Boon Table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 05:09:32
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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40k-noob wrote:So not worth the points now :(
My DP's will on the sideline just in case I get a lucky roll on the Boon Table.
Yeah, only thing exciting about a DP is that there's a slim chance that one can replace a Cultist Champion and really annoy an opponent
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 05:38:09
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/FnP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 11:10:15
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
It cannot get FNP, not without a boon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 11:25:23
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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nosferatu1001 wrote:jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
It cannot get FNP, not without a boon
Or the Endurance power from the Biomancy discipline.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 11:26:25
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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True enough, I was just making sure of how.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 12:30:22
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
What Daemon Weapon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 12:31:28
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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It can take the Black Mace or the Murder Sword.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 12:41:26
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Murder Sword isn't a Daemon weapon, but I asked because he mentions "Hammer" so I was wondering what that was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 12:44:16
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Ah yeah, my bad, was thinking of Chaos Artefact weapons in general.  So that leaves the Black Mace then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 13:00:47
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Slightly off-topic, can someone please point out pages that allow a DP (not one that is the result of a boon) of Khorne has access to Wargear restricted to models with the Mark of Khorne only? i ask only because I've seen it come up a few times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 13:13:59
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Even Daemon Princes gained through Dark Apotheosis don't have their Marks anymore. Not to mention they lose all their old wargear. So no, there's no possible way a Daemon Prince has access to any gear that requires a Mark.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 13:20:09
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
Good thing too, since he doesn't have Feel No Pain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 14:37:41
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Morphing Obliterator
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Redemption wrote:Even Daemon Princes gained through Dark Apotheosis don't have their Marks anymore. Not to mention they lose all their old wargear. So no, there's no possible way a Daemon Prince has access to any gear that requires a Mark.
The Blinding axe however will probably be FAQed to be allowed for a DPoK to wield it... since it gives rage and all the models with the MoK already have it except the DP, would be the only logical explanation for adding it, so that a DPoK could benefit from rage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 15:20:23
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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The Hive Mind
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Godless-Mimicry wrote:jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
Good thing too, since he doesn't have Feel No Pain.
If Endurance is cast on him he does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 17:22:19
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Godless-Mimicry wrote:jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:After seeing one in action today I'm quite impressed. It was DPoN with the hammer, Psyker mastery lv 3. THing was like 320 pts ish and only died to rolling god aweful. Far too many 1s for D weapon, and failing of invuls/ FnP.
Good thing too, since he doesn't have Feel No Pain.
yay Psy mastery lv 3. no need to jump to conclusions he had FnP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 16:44:02
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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40k-noob wrote:So not worth the points now :(
My DP's will on the sideline just in case I get a lucky roll on the Boon Table.
I wouldn't say not worth the points since initiative and WS are both increased considerably... Played a game last night and my DP of Khorne with Black Mace was quite astounding, even at 285 points... He carved stuff up nicely to the point my opponent threw everything at him giving the rest of my army free rein...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 23:28:00
Subject: What is a Deamon prince's save without upgrades.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Combat wasnt really where DP died - it was to shooting. Even autocannons wound them on 2+, meaning a lot of potential armour saves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 05:51:41
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Took me until post 5 before I realised this thread is about CSM and not daemons.
Probably the one thing that every CSM player does poorly is refer to their army correctly.
[/petpeeve]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/19 05:56:57
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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psyklone wrote:Took me until post 5 before I realised this thread is about CSM and not daemons.
Probably the one thing that every CSM player does poorly is refer to their army correctly.
[/petpeeve]
I mean in the OP the proper codex is stated.
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