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So my friends and myself play a decent amount of 40k and I have pretty expansive BA army. I do not play apoc at all but my friends do and they all have super heavies, I was wondering which super heavy tank would be best suited for a fast paced assault army. Any advice would be great.

probably a warhound, although if that's out of your price range, maybe a stormlord?

I was looking into the stormlord. I haven't looked into the warhound at all. Is it all that much better then a stormlord?

All the tank variants seem to be pretty squishy tbh. While the superheavy walkers tend to last a bit longer.

Warhounds are quite good for their points. So are Baneblade varients, although Baneblades are easier to kill. Hardly surprising when they are cheaper.

Of course, moneywise the Titan is much more expensive. A baneblade is $100 from GW, a Warhound Titan from FW will run you a little over $500 given the current exchange rate.

Thunderhawk Gunship is the obvious choice.

while thunderhawks are good, as they can't be shot down by the majority of super heavy wepons, them being blasts and it a flyer, comparitivley its relatively lightly armed

Reaver titan. There is no other option.

(Unless you bring Tau allies, then get a Manta.)

This is a helpful thread as I am also looking into getting a super heavy here soon. I am starting up SW and was interested in what models can go in a stormlord? It has a large capacity. My buddies were saying you can put dreds inside it... Although I think it would make a good long fangs platform. Since it is "open topped", it seems it would be more vulnerable even though you could assault out of it...

strengthofthedragon2 wrote:
My buddies were saying you can put dreds inside it...

Apocalypse rulebook, page 198. Superheavy transports can carry more things than normal transports, including walkers. However, each larger model takes up more than one point of transport capacity.

Since it is "open topped", it seems it would be more vulnerable even though you could assault out of it...

It's only open topped for purposes of embarking and disembarking, for damage purposes it's just a regular vehicle.

Without looking at the rules, I'm pretty sure that the storm lord is has a firing platform on top for 20 models or so, and must be disembarked from as normal.

 Jidmah wrote:
Without looking at the rules, I'm pretty sure that the storm lord is has a firing platform on top for 20 models or so, and must be disembarked from as normal.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The platform is correct, but it's open topped for purposes of embarking and disembarking (which it kind of has to be since the model has no doors).

Thanks for the advice and the help. Cheers.

Yes, it is Open Topped for Embarkation and Disemarkation only. Aside from that it is a normal vehicle. It also has a 20 model firepoint(the entirety of its back platform)

Note that the restriction on models using the firepoint is not the same as its transport capacity limits.

So a Walker taking up 10 transport slots is still just one model for shooting from the back platform.

A problem with all SH-tanks in a fast moving army is the SH top speed of 6" (unless it has some sort of special rule).
If you want to get there fast, a titan would be better since it's a walker and can put out a -load of firepower, 2x plasma blastgun can with the help of two firing modes put the hurt on almost anything. If you live in a SH-rich environment the Shadowsword is worth mentioning as well..

Cool! Good info, I was wondering why anyone would take a super heavy if they would receive the +1 to the damage. I haven't purchased an apocalypse book yet, but you are saying 10 spots for a dred? Wow! I wonder if TWC can go inside... I will need to do some more research. If they can only move 6" than maybe one of the other variants would be a better choice since the stormlord seems it's geared towards getting close which will take it forever to do...

My cousin uses a Stromlord in his Nurgle army, no it's not fast, but it has the Vulcan Mega-Bolter which can put out a crazy amount of shots and can shoot twice if it doesn't move! On top of that it has a Transport Capacity of 40 and 20 firing points. He puts 5 Havoc Squads in it armed with Autocannons, Missile Launchers, and a few Lascannons. That's a ridiculous amount of firepower coming out of one tank.

Yeah, that's why I was thinking it would make a good SW long fangs tank, but if it moves, the passengers inside with heavy weapons will have to fire snap shots since they count as moving, right?

Also, I will do a search for this, but how are the hull points working on the super heavies in 6th?

Most current apoc rules are found here:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/a/apoc6thupdate.pdf

I have faced the stormlord multiple times, and even though I'm playing orks (which it should be best at killing) it's really a bad tank. Bad up to the point, that ork bikers were just turbo-boosting past it and ignoring it, because it constantly fails to kill even a single mob of orks. Even with as many shots as the stormlord has when staying stationary, between S6, BS3 and cover enough of them are lost to make it completely unspectacular in comparison to any other baneblade shooting huge high strength blasts. Personally, I wouldn't waste my money on a superheavy that's nothing but an oversized chimera.

The warhound can move up to 12", making it an obvious choice, and then it can choose not to fire one of its weapons for an extra D6" move, or not fire at all for an extra 2D6" iirc.

If you've got an absurd amount of money lying around you could get that Blood Angels Apocalypse formation of three loaded Thunderhawks, but that's kind of silly since you'll never be able to actually field it.