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Yesterday I went down to the FLGS and decided to try and pick up a game. Someone new who I had never seen before gladly accepted. We decided to play 25 points, caster kill. My skorne and his khador.

I thought it was going to be a quick game, maybe three turns ending in someone getting the better of the other. Instead it turned into a 6 turn slog. This guy didn't know a damn thing about either rules set. He thought you didn't have to aim spells, that back strikes always gave boosted damage, that if you wanted first turn you got a 5" deployment, and so on and so on. He also continually forgot to allocate focus until halfway into his turn, which I decided was no longer okay around turn three. He would measure before declaring charges (not the cheeky "control range" style) and would declare a different move if he was out of range. He didn't know how fury worked, and after I explained it to him it seemed he willfully forgot just to make me explain more. He would cheat on movement by about half an inch, and when he pulled casualties he would purposefully move other models in the unit so they'd be out of melee, as if I wasn't watching him do that the whole time. He also thought spells auto hit and that you didn't have to roll. Real stand up guy.

So, whether he had no idea what the hell he was doing, or was just trying to cheat me, it was by far the worst game I have ever played. The game ended turn 6 with him conceding as he just had his caster left, with molik karn about to clean her clock.

What was the worst game you all have ever experienced? And what reasons made that particular game so awful?

That sounds awful. That guy wasn't even confusing things with mk1, he was just making things up. I can't even speculate on his thoughts.

My worst game was when my best friend and I traded armies for a game and I crushed siege with the Harbinger. He was so upset at how Siege's feat actually worked and how bastions hose it that he called me a cheater, packed up his models, and didn't talk to me for a week. In the end after we reconciled, I think it showed him how well I knew his protectorate and how much he had left to learn about my cygnar.

I played someone fairly new in a tournament a few weeks back. He was pretty unsure about some of the rules, wasn't too well knowledged in his own army, but worst of all he complained about everything. His bad dice rolls, my good luck in taking out his models, the way the game played out each turn, etc. Just generally not a very fun game.

 gpfunk wrote:
Someone new who I had never seen before gladly accepted.

Was he knew at the game? Because if a new player who youve never seen before shows up I'd have made it a point to ask how experienced he is.

Used to have a 40k player like that gpfunk at the FLGS. Got to where no one would play him, but he'd always find the new kinds to play against. Finally stopped showing up when he got DQed from a tournament for cheating.

I was playing in our League when a 500 pound guy waddled up to the table across from me. I was right in the middle of the game and had to walk back from the table because his BO was so bad I choked. Then as the game wore on he was pointing out everything he would do, quoting rules and being a serious pain in the butt. Finally I told him that when his army in on the table and is playing he could quote rules all day long other wise he could shut his damn mouth and get out of the damn game. He turned around and started doing the same thing to the other game behind us.

What an ass. Why do people that do not have armies think it is their right to butt into other peoples' games when they are not welcome?

The FLGS uses folding chairs and I found out later that the stack of broken chairs are from his large butt has broke each one of those. I was waiting for the already weakened chair he was sitting on to implode from the shear mass that was being forced upon it.

 Dais wrote:
That sounds awful. That guy wasn't even confusing things with mk1, he was just making things up. I can't even speculate on his thoughts.

My worst game was when my best friend and I traded armies for a game and I crushed siege with the Harbinger. He was so upset at how Siege's feat actually worked and how bastions hose it that he called me a cheater, packed up his models, and didn't talk to me for a week. In the end after we reconciled, I think it showed him how well I knew his protectorate and how much he had left to learn about my cygnar.

To be fair, they did wind up errata'ing that.

Worst game for me was when I played against a PoM guy in my shop that I had not met before, roughly about back in March, We agreed to 35pts, I whipped out Xerxis and the brick, he throws down Reznik and...nothing but jacks. No choir, no infantry. Just Avatar, Castigator, Guardian, Reckonerand some dinky little light jack with a spray fire. As he put terrain down he had it so there were two houses and it would box my army up if I tried to get through to meet his jack wall. I advanced on regardless and I saw his face brighten as my models came closer, just within charge range for him as if I was suckered into his plan when I have Xerxis get behind my Cetrati and just cast inhospitable ground, making everything in his cntrl rough terrain. He didn't like that. His turn he just shuffled some things around and when it came back to me I showed him a magic trick...

Bronzeback charges Avatar under Xerxis feat, Fury and train wreck: Avatar dead on two hits, move into the Castigator, crush that on 2 buys 1 boosted. Next the sentry charges in and destroys the Reckoner. Arcuarii do the same to the Guardian. At that point he started having a mini man fit, complaining about fire dice, how it's unfair I destroyed his jacks so easily, how he thought I would have had to send both beasts to kill just the avatar. He didn't seem to understand that skorne was a buff army when he saw the base P+S of my beasts/units nor the fact when I start throwing down 5 dice per Arcuarii damage roll he cries foul saying I'm rolling too many. I digress, at that point I let him kill some arcuarii to generate wracks, put some explosion damage on Xerxis, a little too much for my liking but I let the big man do Reznik in himself the next turn, ending a painful and sort of embarrassing game.

Unfortunately, this would go on for several months later when suddenly his new thing to cry foul over was the Archidon and how it was broken apparently. He doesn't come around the shop anymore, probably got the message we didn't like him and the whining but regardless, it all started with that one game. The one game where I would grow to enjoy the taste of his tears.

 Pipboy101 wrote:
Well last Sunday I was playing in our League when a 500 pound guy waddled up to the table across from me. I was right in the middle of the game and had to walk back from the table because his BO was so bad I choked. Then as the game wore on he was pointing out everything he would do, quoting rules and being a serious pain in the butt. Finally I told him that when his army in on the table and is playing he could quote rules all day long other wise he could shut his damn mouth and get out of the damn game. He turned around and started doing the same thing to the other game behind us.

What an ass. Why do people that do not have armies think it is their right to butt into other peoples' games when they are not welcome?

The FLGS uses folding chairs and I found out later that the stack of broken chairs are from his large butt has broke each one of those. I was waiting for the already weakened chair he was sitting on to implode from the shear mass that was being forced upon it.

Aw man sounds like I missed out When i come up this sunday I'll ask about it lol.

For me the worst time i've had in my relatively short experience was one of my personal friends actually, it was awful we had been talking about the game for 2 months straight learning the rules and saving the money to get our models i was a little ahead of him in that race and he had reasearched battlecollege even more than me and had practice matches ahead of our match (though to be fair i did have a few more than him) despite being so new both of us he had some AWFUL habits coming from 40k just like me but these other habits got to the point of teeth gnashing and it made me look like an donkey-cave when i finally snapped.

I am talking about pre-measuring I look at him funny and he freaks out and apologizes literally to do it again right after with the exact same piece after apologizing nearly 7 times, not the worst but it goes on. Next he would move all of his models simultaneously like in 40k, then forget focus dividing even into round 5. As we played he would pace left and right holding three dice in his hand just shaking them... shaking them for no reason on my turn on his turn or during control phases whatever it was so sickenly anxious of him it drove me up the wall cause I just wanted his ass to calm down and think rather than think 100 miles a min. he would pop his feat and realize it only obtained someone unable to really matter and asked to take it back because he didn't check his control range around turn 4 i didn't mind him taking back the action but next round i backed offed from his jacks to re-position my forces and sure enough he didn't measure again for feat range and was hitting no one that mattered near the end of the game I made him stick with it cause my round was all of movement and 1 gunshot from a charger, and making a rift. Lastly whenever he would start his turn that anxious pacing and dice jiggling was accompanied by a pethora of odd questions which really made no sense at all or asking how far i was away from him or veryifying charging rules when he was no where close to anything due to foot slogging, or forgetting to give a focus to run or charge. The worst part was his his self love of his tactics when he would box a system he'd rub it in my face and i rose an eyebrow noting the system wasn't needed like a shock hammer on a Charger or an arcnode for closing in models.

it got to the point where the only way i could deduce to calm his butt down and think of the match like a chess game was to just get short and basically say "play the damn game, stop asking questions until we are over and done with the game at this point and if you think he really could matter please just read the FLGS's rule book. I am in no rush and remember to apply your damn focus and measure control ranges to help plan your method of attack!"

It sucks i hate being stressed at a game but it was the worst i have ever seen someone flub dice rolls, measure, be stressy when i know for a fact they can be much better in a different game i don't mind some critical thinking flaws honestly i don't I am normally a laid back dude who will even bend the rules, BUT the moment this continues for 2 hours ... in a 11 pt game I want to pull my hair out and scream.

I have to admit, I have the bad habit of quoting stats and rules during other people's games. It's kind of a tick from having to play timed turns where people would fumble around trying to look at their cards for something and eating up your time. In my head I figure I'm saving them time and speeding up the flow of the game and it's welcomed but truthfully it's not necessary.

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

 Pipboy101 wrote:
Well last Sunday I was playing in our League when a 500 pound guy waddled up to the table across from me. I was right in the middle of the game and had to walk back from the table because his BO was so bad I choked. Then as the game wore on he was pointing out everything he would do, quoting rules and being a serious pain in the butt. Finally I told him that when his army in on the table and is playing he could quote rules all day long other wise he could shut his damn mouth and get out of the damn game. He turned around and started doing the same thing to the other game behind us.

What an ass. Why do people that do not have armies think it is their right to butt into other peoples' games when they are not welcome?

The FLGS uses folding chairs and I found out later that the stack of broken chairs are from his large butt has broke each one of those. I was waiting for the already weakened chair he was sitting on to implode from the shear mass that was being forced upon it.

Aw man sounds like I missed out When i come up this sunday I'll ask about it lol.

For me the worst time i've had in my relatively short experience was one of my personal friends actually, it was awful we had been talking about the game for 2 months straight learning the rules and saving the money to get our models i was a little ahead of him in that race and he had reasearched battlecollege even more than me and had practice matches ahead of our match (though to be fair i did have a few more than him) despite being so new both of us he had some AWFUL habits coming from 40k just like me but these other habits got to the point of teeth gnashing and it made me look like an donkey-cave when i finally snapped.

I am talking about pre-measuring I look at him funny and he freaks out and apologizes literally to do it again right after with the exact same piece after apologizing nearly 7 times, not the worst but it goes on. Next he would move all of his models simultaneously like in 40k, then forget focus dividing even into round 5. As we played he would pace left and right holding three dice in his hand just shaking them... shaking them for no reason on my turn on his turn or during control phases whatever it was so sickenly anxious of him it drove me up the wall cause I just wanted his ass to calm down and think rather than think 100 miles a min. he would pop his feat and realize it only obtained someone unable to really matter and asked to take it back because he didn't check his control range around turn 4 i didn't mind him taking back the action but next round i backed offed from his jacks to re-position my forces and sure enough he didn't measure again for feat range and was hitting no one that mattered near the end of the game I made him stick with it cause my round was all of movement and 1 gunshot from a charger, and making a rift. Lastly whenever he would start his turn that anxious pacing and dice jiggling was accompanied by a pethora of odd questions which really made no sense at all or asking how far i was away from him or veryifying charging rules when he was no where close to anything due to foot slogging, or forgetting to give a focus to run or charge. The worst part was his his self love of his tactics when he would box a system he'd rub it in my face and i rose an eyebrow noting the system wasn't needed like a shock hammer on a Charger or an arcnode for closing in models.

it got to the point where the only way i could deduce to calm his butt down and think of the match like a chess game was to just get short and basically say "play the damn game, stop asking questions until we are over and done with the game at this point and if you think he really could matter please just read the FLGS's rule book. I am in no rush and remember to apply your damn focus and measure control ranges to help plan your method of attack!"

It sucks i hate being stressed at a game but it was the worst i have ever seen someone flub dice rolls, measure, be stressy when i know for a fact they can be much better in a different game i don't mind some critical thinking flaws honestly i don't I am normally a laid back dude who will even bend the rules, BUT the moment this continues for 2 hours ... in a 11 pt game I want to pull my hair out and scream.

I think I remember seeing you looking agitated a week or two ago playing. Was it that game you are talking about?

I wish more people had heard me say something to him but I kept my voice down and stared right into his when I said it. I don't even think they guy I was playing heard it because his back was turned asking a question to David.

I'm taking notes here so I can avoid becoming these people. I guess I will make it clear to people I just started so at least when I have rules questions they will bear with me.

 The Foot wrote:
I'm taking notes here so I can avoid becoming these people. I guess I will make it clear to people I just started so at least when I have rules questions they will bear with me.

that's all you gotta do really, "just say be patient and kind please" if you give me that warning I am cool with it. other things are just my OCD kicking in and that is more my problem than anyone elses

 Pipboy101 wrote:

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

 Pipboy101 wrote:
Well last Sunday I was playing in our League when a 500 pound guy waddled up to the table across from me. I was right in the middle of the game and had to walk back from the table because his BO was so bad I choked. Then as the game wore on he was pointing out everything he would do, quoting rules and being a serious pain in the butt. Finally I told him that when his army in on the table and is playing he could quote rules all day long other wise he could shut his damn mouth and get out of the damn game. He turned around and started doing the same thing to the other game behind us.

What an ass. Why do people that do not have armies think it is their right to butt into other peoples' games when they are not welcome?

The FLGS uses folding chairs and I found out later that the stack of broken chairs are from his large butt has broke each one of those. I was waiting for the already weakened chair he was sitting on to implode from the shear mass that was being forced upon it.

Aw man sounds like I missed out When i come up this sunday I'll ask about it lol.

For me the worst time i've had in my relatively short experience was one of my personal friends actually, it was awful we had been talking about the game for 2 months straight learning the rules and saving the money to get our models i was a little ahead of him in that race and he had reasearched battlecollege even more than me and had practice matches ahead of our match (though to be fair i did have a few more than him) despite being so new both of us he had some AWFUL habits coming from 40k just like me but these other habits got to the point of teeth gnashing and it made me look like an donkey-cave when i finally snapped.

I am talking about pre-measuring I look at him funny and he freaks out and apologizes literally to do it again right after with the exact same piece after apologizing nearly 7 times, not the worst but it goes on. Next he would move all of his models simultaneously like in 40k, then forget focus dividing even into round 5. As we played he would pace left and right holding three dice in his hand just shaking them... shaking them for no reason on my turn on his turn or during control phases whatever it was so sickenly anxious of him it drove me up the wall cause I just wanted his ass to calm down and think rather than think 100 miles a min. he would pop his feat and realize it only obtained someone unable to really matter and asked to take it back because he didn't check his control range around turn 4 i didn't mind him taking back the action but next round i backed offed from his jacks to re-position my forces and sure enough he didn't measure again for feat range and was hitting no one that mattered near the end of the game I made him stick with it cause my round was all of movement and 1 gunshot from a charger, and making a rift. Lastly whenever he would start his turn that anxious pacing and dice jiggling was accompanied by a pethora of odd questions which really made no sense at all or asking how far i was away from him or veryifying charging rules when he was no where close to anything due to foot slogging, or forgetting to give a focus to run or charge. The worst part was his his self love of his tactics when he would box a system he'd rub it in my face and i rose an eyebrow noting the system wasn't needed like a shock hammer on a Charger or an arcnode for closing in models.

it got to the point where the only way i could deduce to calm his butt down and think of the match like a chess game was to just get short and basically say "play the damn game, stop asking questions until we are over and done with the game at this point and if you think he really could matter please just read the FLGS's rule book. I am in no rush and remember to apply your damn focus and measure control ranges to help plan your method of attack!"

It sucks i hate being stressed at a game but it was the worst i have ever seen someone flub dice rolls, measure, be stressy when i know for a fact they can be much better in a different game i don't mind some critical thinking flaws honestly i don't I am normally a laid back dude who will even bend the rules, BUT the moment this continues for 2 hours ... in a 11 pt game I want to pull my hair out and scream.

I think I remember seeing you looking agitated a week or two ago playing. Was it that game you are talking about?

I wish more people had heard me say something to him but I kept my voice down and stared right into his when I said it. I don't even think they guy I was playing heard it because his back was turned asking a question to David.

Would have been about 3 weeks ago yeah, my buddy means well he just has this way of looking like he is constantly fudging dice rolls, rules, focus ect and looking way more guilty than he should.

If he had said "oh damn i keep friggen forgetting sorry." instead his normal defense is along these lines "OH! YOU NEVER SAID I COULDN'T I FIGURED A CHANGE WOULD BE OKAY SINCE I AM NEW CAN YOU NOT CHANGE WELL I DID DO IT YEAH BUT I GUESS I DIDN'T MEAN TO THOUGH, UGH YEAH SO IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN." *proceeds to do the same exact thing on his very next activation and says the exact same response. Like i said not a bad guy but he doesn't know how to convey an honest mistake without looking like OJ.

The premeasuring and forgetting to allocate focus at the beginning of the turn just makes it fantastically awful to slog through. Having to constantly remind someone to play fair is a sure fire recipe for a tiresome and unenjoyable game. Glad to see i'm not the only one who's run into that stuff.

Aye, sounds like he had barely any grasp of the rules, had never played a game, and tried to do it like 40k. My suggestion here GP is to ASK if its someone you've never played "Are you new to the game?" before going for a points value. A brand new guy should be playing no more than the battlebox, 15 points MAX, as you know, just to get the hang of stuff.

That said, when I was a new guy (I still relatively am, with less than 30 games total under my belt... 6 of which were tourney games) I decided around my 4th or 5th game to go to my FLGS to try a new opponent. Tried out a dude named Ben. Hes the local Circle fanatic... well he said hes OK with proxies, so I decided to try and proxy a 25 point pMorg list (proxied an agonizer, BB, and a couple other items). Yeah... I got TRASHED. I kept forgetting rules, misplayed horribly, and got my ass pounded in.

Afterward, I decided to stick with LEARNING the game for a few more. Played another 5 or so 15 pointers, and then moved to 25 when I was comfortable with a lot of the rules. I still forget stuff from time to time (like when to heal beasts), but I'm getting more to grips with the rules and gameplay. I can say this much, I'm strategically sound! Now if only I could remember to use eHexeris' healing....

 The Foot wrote:
I'm taking notes here so I can avoid becoming these people. I guess I will make it clear to people I just started so at least when I have rules questions they will bear with me.

You don't have to take notes.

Don't be a douche.

 Zid wrote:
Aye, sounds like he had barely any grasp of the rules, had never played a game, and tried to do it like 40k. My suggestion here GP is to ASK if its someone you've never played "Are you new to the game?" before going for a points value. A brand new guy should be playing no more than the battlebox, 15 points MAX, as you know, just to get the hang of stuff.

That said, when I was a new guy (I still relatively am, with less than 30 games total under my belt... 6 of which were tourney games) I decided around my 4th or 5th game to go to my FLGS to try a new opponent. Tried out a dude named Ben. Hes the local Circle fanatic... well he said hes OK with proxies, so I decided to try and proxy a 25 point pMorg list (proxied an agonizer, BB, and a couple other items). Yeah... I got TRASHED. I kept forgetting rules, misplayed horribly, and got my ass pounded in.

Afterward, I decided to stick with LEARNING the game for a few more. Played another 5 or so 15 pointers, and then moved to 25 when I was comfortable with a lot of the rules. I still forget stuff from time to time (like when to heal beasts), but I'm getting more to grips with the rules and gameplay. I can say this much, I'm strategically sound! Now if only I could remember to use eHexeris' healing....

I find Hordes harder to master personally than warmachine which keeps you on a easier balance of basics but i also contest that Hordes seems to be a little better IMO for damage output

My worst game was in a tournament. A guy had come to KC from St Louis for the event, and I was excited to run my Kreuger Lightning Spam list (Gators Gobbers and Grinders FTW!) I enjoyed some nice games and played hard, letting the overlapping defenses wreak havoc with my opponants' response and giving the big stoney fist to anyone who came too close. I was having a good time, even during some squeakers, but all of that came to a screeching halt when I met the Hooey from St Louie.

Every single move I made after turn one was associated with a "WHAT?" and a "Let me see that!" Followed by a course grinding of his teeth as I pounded his army into dust. He was still very much in the game, and I knew I would have to crush him in order to win. At one point I declared a charge that he contested. I opened my tape measure, held it with one hand (to prevent bowing) and showed him that he was very much in my front arc. He THREW HIS DICE and said "Whatever you gotta do to win, dude."

I then proceeded to whiff. It was the opening he needed (and the only one he had) and he used it to blunt my attack, then the next turn got through my over extended forces and beat me. He struts away from the table, packing up his things like he was Sun Tzu, and hadn't just let it ride on 00 and got lucky.

He wasn't better than me. He just got lucky. I knew how to shut down every aspect of his army and he appeared to know nothing about mine, dragging the whole affair out longer by challenging every decision. Thankfully, that was the worst it ever got.

The only other game that even came close was a guy at another event who wore his iPod the entire time during a Cryx/Cryx match up. I took Skarre and I believe he was running Denny. He didn't acknowledge me, and every time I explained my actions, he waved his hand as though to hurry me up. It was rude, and I was hoping to be conversational and fun in order to cover my nerves at having to fight against my own faction AND my favorite caster. The game ends on a tie (which I afterwards realized I could have won but for a slightly different direction of movement by one model: alas!) and afterwards he takes out his earphones, lets out a deep breath, and goes, "Wow. That was alot closer than I was expecting. Good game." and shakes my hand. It changed my opinion of the entire fight.

Arrogance is one thing, being arrogant and still giving your enemy props for a great game? To me that is the essence of Pg5. Sure he thought he had an easy win -either because of his experience, my caster choice, or a combination of the two- but once he realized that I understood that Skarre was more than a Bomber, he knew he had to engage me fully.

Other than that I sometimes worry that the people I play would list me as a "worst game I ever played" moment. >.< Keeping calm in spite of horrific chance is still something that I struggle with, I'm afraid, though it makes me readily commiserate with my opponant when their dice go south. I usually just buy em a coke.

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

 Zid wrote:
Aye, sounds like he had barely any grasp of the rules, had never played a game, and tried to do it like 40k. My suggestion here GP is to ASK if its someone you've never played "Are you new to the game?" before going for a points value. A brand new guy should be playing no more than the battlebox, 15 points MAX, as you know, just to get the hang of stuff.

That said, when I was a new guy (I still relatively am, with less than 30 games total under my belt... 6 of which were tourney games) I decided around my 4th or 5th game to go to my FLGS to try a new opponent. Tried out a dude named Ben. Hes the local Circle fanatic... well he said hes OK with proxies, so I decided to try and proxy a 25 point pMorg list (proxied an agonizer, BB, and a couple other items). Yeah... I got TRASHED. I kept forgetting rules, misplayed horribly, and got my ass pounded in.

Afterward, I decided to stick with LEARNING the game for a few more. Played another 5 or so 15 pointers, and then moved to 25 when I was comfortable with a lot of the rules. I still forget stuff from time to time (like when to heal beasts), but I'm getting more to grips with the rules and gameplay. I can say this much, I'm strategically sound! Now if only I could remember to use eHexeris' healing....

I find Hordes harder to master personally than warmachine which keeps you on a easier balance of basics but i also contest that Hordes seems to be a little better IMO for damage output

When you see a enraged BB on full fury smashing stuff... very little comes to that level of damage output

I agree tho, its hard to decide when to transfer and when not to, and its easy to get too ballsy with Hordes thinking your safe. Too many things have greivous wounds anymore to get too ballsy lol

My worst gaming experiences have almost solely been with friends that i have tried to bring into the hobby. They have gaming experience in only online/video based gaming.
They almost always have that "must be the best" "must win every game" mentality.

It makes it miserable to teach them. I dont have a problem with explaining rules, even some of the more complex things. I have a true passion for the hobby and i enjoy talking about it or discussing it. But when they just complain about rolls or that i only won because of my superior knowledge of the game it becomes far more difficult to stay interested in teaching them.

I have been able to bring a few of my long time friends into the hobby but they all share a common attribute. Which is patience, and being good sports about losing and learning how to play through practice. So i guess my worst experiences are typically with people who care to much about a W/L record. Or the individuals that can't lose a model without throwing their hands in the air and yelling i quit!

 NoQuestionzAsked wrote:
My worst gaming experiences have almost solely been with friends that i have tried to bring into the hobby. They have gaming experience in only online/video based gaming.
They almost always have that "must be the best" "must win every game" mentality.

It makes it miserable to teach them. I dont have a problem with explaining rules, even some of the more complex things. I have a true passion for the hobby and i enjoy talking about it or discussing it. But when they just complain about rolls or that i only won because of my superior knowledge of the game it becomes far more difficult to stay interested in teaching them.

I have been able to bring a few of my long time friends into the hobby but they all share a common attribute. Which is patience, and being good sports about losing and learning how to play through practice. So i guess my worst experiences are typically with people who care to much about a W/L record. Or the individuals that can't lose a model without throwing their hands in the air and yelling i quit!

I find it funny but in my experience most friends make the worse opponents not because they are better or worse or mean or nice but because they know you better than your enemies do. This turns into a level of openess that sometimes begins to grate against one another when you are trying to be competitive until it transforms into momentary resentment. You maintain this view of the powerstruggle either you see yourself as the better player or they do and no matter what they will feel most comfortable questioning you and asking you to prove your answers to questions ect.

I don't think this is a bad thing persay just... well a thing they are comfortable and all the possibilities to doubt, question, and argue are before there when a stranger wouldn't be comfortable doing that nearly as much and check these sources themselves before continuing

One of my last game before I quit (well, "paused" since I'm restarting both Cryx and Circle) was witha a friend. My Cryx vs his Legion. Once he saw my force, he pulled the only troop he fielded and replaced with another beast. So everyone with eyeless (for the joy of my banes) and no souls (for the joy of my pistol wraith). Never never wanted to play with him again. Not because his list was strong or difficult to face, but the fact that he changed the list in my face really upset me.

The worse game I've had for an opponent's Sportsmanship is a clear winner. Before the game even starts, after simply seeing my list, which was a standard Epic Goreshade Theme Force, ie MOAR BANES!, he started complaining about how cheesy and broken Goreshade is (yes, Goreshade!) and how the only reason people play Banes is because they simply want to ruin the fun for everyone else. Thru out the entire game he constantly berates me for the army I'm playing, how broken Cryx is, everything my army can do is totally broken. A unit digs in to become immune to Blast damage, and I shoot them with a Corruptor, who makes an AOE that's not Blast damage, and he complains the Corruptor is broken. The Corruptor! A model I'm openly Mocked for liking and is considered one of the worse in the game! My unit of Bane Knights charge him thru some clustered Obstructions and he starts complaining about my "banana charges". I explain to him the unit has Ghostly, they ignore terrain and move thru it. I continue moving the models and he keeps complaining about the banana charges. I remind him they ignore the terrain, and he says but I'm still moving them in a curved line. Of course I am! I can't physically move the models thru the terrain!

I'm not getting mad at him thru out all this and just letting it slide off. Two thirds of the way thru after one of his comments I've apparently started to get some noticeable facial reactions though because he comments that me smirking isn't making it any better. I do lose it a little bit at that point and ask him how he would prefer I responded to him constantly insulting me and he says nothing. I do also find out later that he was apparently taking issue with me narrating all my activations and intentions, ie this modeling is going, he's moving over here, he's doing this, ect, was being viewed as bragging due to my tendency to use nicknames. Moving The Sauce. The Sauce curses that unit, ect. (when I see the event's judge at other events he frequently greets me with "Move`n The Sauce! Move`n The Sauce!)

I assassinate his caster and win the game. He promptly leaves to go smoke without picking up any of his models. I turn to the judge who was watching our game (both of the event's judges were watching our last few turns at that point), and say Ok, I rarely complain about my opponents, but That behavior was Ridiculousness. He responds with Thank You! I've been sitting here waiting for you to say something. I have no idea how you were able to put up with that the entire time. Because of how timed turns and timed rounds work in Steamroller he didn't want to interrupt our game if no one was bringing the issue to him or being vocal about it, and I wasn't complaining at all other than the one slip I mentioned earlier but which he was not there for, which I totally respect and thank him for. He went out and talked to my opponent, and the opponent apologized. The judge knew him and he had something of a reputation for the behavior he was exhibiting, but not usually to that level.

I will also lastly say I've played that same guy in later events and did not have any problems with him. He's really turned the attitude around. I harbor no ill will, and actually look back fondly on the game because he made it such a memorable one and a great story to tell!

Gabbi wrote:
One of my last game before I quit (well, "paused" since I'm restarting both Cryx and Circle) was witha a friend. My Cryx vs his Legion. Once he saw my force, he pulled the only troop he fielded and replaced with another beast. So everyone with eyeless (for the joy of my banes) and no souls (for the joy of my pistol wraith). Never never wanted to play with him again. Not because his list was strong or difficult to face, but the fact that he changed the list in my face really upset me.

Against my friends I will build my list and stick my cards in my pocket. Then tell them to finish their own list and we'll show it at the same time. If my friend plays only one faction I will tell them what faction I am playing. But if they got more than one then I usually don't unless we both share it.

When I go to stores to play pick up games I usually pack one army in my case and that is what I use. So I let the other person get their stuff together before I bust everything out.

The Corruptor! A model I'm openly Mocked for liking and is considered one of the worse in the game!

haha! I openly mock you!

J/K. and I like people who say what they are doing as they do it. Helps to clear up alot of potential issues before they even happen, IMO.

I always thought that you were SUPPOSED to narrate all your actions. I've never played a game without doing that. It just makes sure everyone is on the level. I usually clear that up with my opponent in the first turn. If he's just moving models I ask him to explain anything that sticks out as new to me, then they just start doing it to save time.

 gpfunk wrote:
I always thought that you were SUPPOSED to narrate all your actions. I've never played a game without doing that. It just makes sure everyone is on the level. I usually clear that up with my opponent in the first turn. If he's just moving models I ask him to explain anything that sticks out as new to me, then they just start doing it to save time.

I do that to make sure I'm not fething my turn up as much as possible and to make sure what I'm doing is clear. 40k is pretty simple as far as indicating actions goes, but WM is much more particular what with charges, runs, slams and the like.

And Aduro, I would like to play a game against the Sauce. Maybe my Menoth can bring it to a nice boil.

 gpfunk wrote:
I always thought that you were SUPPOSED to narrate all your actions. I've never played a game without doing that. It just makes sure everyone is on the level. I usually clear that up with my opponent in the first turn. If he's just moving models I ask him to explain anything that sticks out as new to me, then they just start doing it to save time.

I always say what I'm doing. I think just moving stuff in silence is kinda silly.

Also, nicknames for models is something I like about the game. Whenever I play Magnus (Thanks yo a spelling error on my part by writing "Mangus" on his base) I sometimes play with a roaring scottish accent and complain how nothing in Mercs has a bloody kilt on. It helps to break the monotony, and to set the mood for friendly games.

And for the OP: I never had a bad opponent. Sure, I've had Opponents who crushed me in an instant and smirked, but it was a pleasant death to say the least.