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Price is almost same, 15 pt more for the juggy one.

So what do you think maybe bike can be hide mor easely? but jugg have fleet and 1 wound and 1 attack bonus...

need advice please

The juggernaut goes great if you put him with spawn, otherwise if he's joining bikes put him on the bike.

If he's not joining bikes, then juggernaut.

If he's not joining bikes, then juggernaut.

Perfect this is my favourite figurine xd

 juraigamer wrote:
The juggernaut goes great if you put him with spawn, otherwise if he's joining bikes put him on the bike.

If he's not joining bikes, then juggernaut.

That is all there is to it.
The only reason to put him on a bike is if he is joining bikes. Otherwise, put him on a Juggy. the extra wound is pretty awesome.

Personally I say juggernaut, he's on his own but if you play him carefully until he's in combat he can dish out enough hurt to make angron jealous.

And you've even got the new Fantasy Skullcrushers for easy access to a Juggernaut model.

Spawns and bikes aren't really that different in resilience terms, the extra wounds make up for the lack of armor under rapid fire from your avg BS4 S4 shots the spawns would lose less models but since you are moving 12" you really shouldn't stay on rapid fire range, in which case both units should hold as well. Which brings you down to the main difference which would be a little more resistance on the spawns and vulnerability to S10 shots, vs being able to run 2 special weapons to pop up tanks/wound MC or heavy infantry before assaulting and always getting cover saves from high str weapons.

Personally I'll run my jugger lord with 8 khorne bikes with the icon. An expensive unit sure but it will allow me to reroll the charge distance have the +1 resolution and FC on everyone including the lord. Besides... a large squad of spikey bikes with a huge monster bull running alongside them just sounds to awesome to let it pass

The difference is spawns aren't slowed by charging since they are beasts and bikes can turbo boost.

Also Calvary and beasts have fleet.

 juraigamer wrote:
The difference is spawns aren't slowed by charging since they are beasts and bikes can turbo boost.

Also Calvary and beasts have fleet.

Well bikes aren't slowed either they only take the dangerous terrain test which now allows armor saves making it really hard to get a model killed. But yeah, by joining the jugger to the bikes you lose both the cavalry and the bike benefits (Turbo-boost/fleet), the khorne icon however can make a little up for the fleet thou.

There's another thing not being covered here:

Bikers have a Champion, Spawn do not. This makes the Lord subject to Champions of Chaos, which with the Axe, isn't something you always want to be in.

 AresX8 wrote:
There's another thing not being covered here:

Bikers have a Champion, Spawn do not. This makes the Lord subject to Champions of Chaos, which with the Axe, isn't something you always want to be in.

Meh, the axe won't really do much, probably 1 wound on the lord, no biggie. But you are right what really messes it up is that he lord need to accept the challenge meaning with all his gazillion attacks he will only kill one sergeant, while being on a biker unit you can choose to accept with the champ and deliver all those attacks to the rest of the unfortunate unit that is locked with him

I prefer the Juggernaut with either bikes or spawn, simply because the model is awesome, and the additional wound helps with my curse of rolling 1s. I personally run the bikes and I like to run a champion tooled out for murdering lords with a PF/LC combo, or a bare naked sacrificial one, depending on points.